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I'm wondering if I am getting 5g interference. Over about the last month I am getting a lot of pixellation, and now it's even on very strong channels like NASA with 99% quality. It is the same anywhere on the arc (87W near the zenith to 133W). Severity varies here and there, but every week it gets worse overall. Only on C band, Ku is perfect.
Here's what I have done, with no change:
Peaked skew, dish position, checked dish adjustment.
Swapped cables to dish, other cables, voltage block couplers, LNB voltage outputs.
Swapped LNBs. (I have a spare identical LNB and I know they both work.)
Bypassed splitters and Diseqc switch.
It's not windy and the snow is gone. No storms rolling through. Nothing clogging the feedhorn.
I looked up 5G coverage in my area, and the only one listed is T Mobile. They have a prominent tower 5 miles up the road, but over hills and through woods. I live in the sticks on a 9 acre plot, where even ATT 4G LTE requires an antenna on my house. Also according to the link below, T Mobile 5G runs at 2.5 GHZ. And the tower is due north of me, my dish points south.
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So say that the other competition (ATT and Verizon) have put in 5G somewhere, according to the link they run at 3.7 GHZ. Both my LNBs are Echostar 0950, which run at 3.7-4.2 GHZ. So I'm not convinced that these budget LNBs I see that say 5G rated, and run at 3.7 to 4.2, will be any better.
I looked at all the channels I watch, and none are lower than 3.9 GHZ. I don't want an LNBF, I want to keep my setup that has C and Ku in the same feedhorn. So I am thinking the best thing would be a Norsat BPF-5 inline filter or LNB.
Very pricey. I don't mind so much if it's a one time purchase that will solve the problem and last awhile. But I would hate to spend the money only to find that the problem still exists. Is there any way to really determine that 5G is causing the issue? Or any other ideas?
Here's what I have done, with no change:
Peaked skew, dish position, checked dish adjustment.
Swapped cables to dish, other cables, voltage block couplers, LNB voltage outputs.
Swapped LNBs. (I have a spare identical LNB and I know they both work.)
Bypassed splitters and Diseqc switch.
It's not windy and the snow is gone. No storms rolling through. Nothing clogging the feedhorn.
I looked up 5G coverage in my area, and the only one listed is T Mobile. They have a prominent tower 5 miles up the road, but over hills and through woods. I live in the sticks on a 9 acre plot, where even ATT 4G LTE requires an antenna on my house. Also according to the link below, T Mobile 5G runs at 2.5 GHZ. And the tower is due north of me, my dish points south.
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So say that the other competition (ATT and Verizon) have put in 5G somewhere, according to the link they run at 3.7 GHZ. Both my LNBs are Echostar 0950, which run at 3.7-4.2 GHZ. So I'm not convinced that these budget LNBs I see that say 5G rated, and run at 3.7 to 4.2, will be any better.
I looked at all the channels I watch, and none are lower than 3.9 GHZ. I don't want an LNBF, I want to keep my setup that has C and Ku in the same feedhorn. So I am thinking the best thing would be a Norsat BPF-5 inline filter or LNB.
Very pricey. I don't mind so much if it's a one time purchase that will solve the problem and last awhile. But I would hate to spend the money only to find that the problem still exists. Is there any way to really determine that 5G is causing the issue? Or any other ideas?
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TLDR: Looking for a new FTA receiver with RCA outputs.
Well considering I got a mandatory week off due to Covid and I've been feeling mostly better the last couple days, I've had time to tinker with the dish.
I got my LNBF from Titanium yesterday. To remove my existing scalar would be a large undertaking. It was so close so I just sanded the paint off the LNBF tube to fit into my scalar. Vertical came in great, but horizontal would not scan. I made sure everything was spot on. So to rule out dish alignment, I remounted it 90 degrees out. Vertical (horizontal channels) now came in great, and vice versa. I checked the voltage coming from the Geosat both ways and it was good.
I checked for voltage drop in all places, splitters, connectors, cables. Turns out the Geosat puts out the correct voltage, but not enough oomph. To run the 13/18v switch, the 18v drops enough to not even solidly run the switch, and that's where my pixellation was coming from. To bypass the switch and directly run the LNBF, it drops to like 16 or so. Enough for the LNBF to know it's not for the vertical, but not enough to actually run the horizontal. The 13v barely drops so vertical isn't affected.
I tried running the horizontal alone, while bridging power from my GI receiver, and that made the horizontal run great. Unfortunately I don't have a 13V output on it, both the C and Ku are 18V. That's my normal setup, the FTA has all the C on H, and all the Ku on V. The 13/18V output switches the direction of the signal path. Each way has a voltage block coupler after the switch, then out to the LNB thru a splitter that draws the needed 18V from the GI receiver. The GI box also changes the polarity with the servo motor. The LNBF is nice in a way, not having to mess with polarity, but I lose the ability to tweak the skew from my living room, that's come in handy many times.
I grabbed this Freesat V7 Max from the basement, that I had bought years ago as a spare. It controls the LNBF great. I really like the interface, but it does have some glitches, like initial startup on PAL, and some satellites it will hang so you can't get the channels. Like NASA and FOX.
But I did get some channels I had been unable to get for a long time, like Decades. Must just have been the low voltage issue.
Today I decided to try it with the original feedhorn assembly. Sure enough, the original works great now. No interference. So I must not have 5G out here, or enough to make a difference. And if I do get it, the LNBF will come in handy for testing and all.
The Geosat has been running on fumes for a long time. First it wouldn't hold memory if the power went out, solved with the UPS I bought when I got internet out here. Then the L/R sound outputs went out so I use the coaxial with a converter. Now it's the 18V output going weak.
So it looks like I am looking for a new FTA receiver with RCA outputs. Since I love my vintage big screen 4:3 TV and all. I hear good things about the Mio. Which I would get if there's a proper HDMI converter, but everything I've read about is hit and miss. I also don't want everything to have black bars and burn in my screen. Right now most things show in 4:3. I actually quite like the Geosat. Or even the Freesat if the scanning bugs were fixed. Anything better out there?
Well considering I got a mandatory week off due to Covid and I've been feeling mostly better the last couple days, I've had time to tinker with the dish.
I got my LNBF from Titanium yesterday. To remove my existing scalar would be a large undertaking. It was so close so I just sanded the paint off the LNBF tube to fit into my scalar. Vertical came in great, but horizontal would not scan. I made sure everything was spot on. So to rule out dish alignment, I remounted it 90 degrees out. Vertical (horizontal channels) now came in great, and vice versa. I checked the voltage coming from the Geosat both ways and it was good.
I checked for voltage drop in all places, splitters, connectors, cables. Turns out the Geosat puts out the correct voltage, but not enough oomph. To run the 13/18v switch, the 18v drops enough to not even solidly run the switch, and that's where my pixellation was coming from. To bypass the switch and directly run the LNBF, it drops to like 16 or so. Enough for the LNBF to know it's not for the vertical, but not enough to actually run the horizontal. The 13v barely drops so vertical isn't affected.
I tried running the horizontal alone, while bridging power from my GI receiver, and that made the horizontal run great. Unfortunately I don't have a 13V output on it, both the C and Ku are 18V. That's my normal setup, the FTA has all the C on H, and all the Ku on V. The 13/18V output switches the direction of the signal path. Each way has a voltage block coupler after the switch, then out to the LNB thru a splitter that draws the needed 18V from the GI receiver. The GI box also changes the polarity with the servo motor. The LNBF is nice in a way, not having to mess with polarity, but I lose the ability to tweak the skew from my living room, that's come in handy many times.
I grabbed this Freesat V7 Max from the basement, that I had bought years ago as a spare. It controls the LNBF great. I really like the interface, but it does have some glitches, like initial startup on PAL, and some satellites it will hang so you can't get the channels. Like NASA and FOX.
But I did get some channels I had been unable to get for a long time, like Decades. Must just have been the low voltage issue.Today I decided to try it with the original feedhorn assembly. Sure enough, the original works great now. No interference. So I must not have 5G out here, or enough to make a difference. And if I do get it, the LNBF will come in handy for testing and all.
The Geosat has been running on fumes for a long time. First it wouldn't hold memory if the power went out, solved with the UPS I bought when I got internet out here. Then the L/R sound outputs went out so I use the coaxial with a converter. Now it's the 18V output going weak.
So it looks like I am looking for a new FTA receiver with RCA outputs. Since I love my vintage big screen 4:3 TV and all. I hear good things about the Mio. Which I would get if there's a proper HDMI converter, but everything I've read about is hit and miss. I also don't want everything to have black bars and burn in my screen. Right now most things show in 4:3. I actually quite like the Geosat. Or even the Freesat if the scanning bugs were fixed. Anything better out there?
When you blind scan with the V7,don't scan for "radio" channels.Those sats with the hundreds of radio channels will lock it up every time.TLDR: Looking for a new FTA receiver with RCA outputs.
Well considering I got a mandatory week off due to Covid and I've been feeling mostly better the last couple days, I've had time to tinker with the dish.
I got my LNBF from Titanium yesterday. To remove my existing scalar would be a large undertaking. It was so close so I just sanded the paint off the LNBF tube to fit into my scalar. Vertical came in great, but horizontal would not scan. I made sure everything was spot on. So to rule out dish alignment, I remounted it 90 degrees out. Vertical (horizontal channels) now came in great, and vice versa. I checked the voltage coming from the Geosat both ways and it was good.
I checked for voltage drop in all places, splitters, connectors, cables. Turns out the Geosat puts out the correct voltage, but not enough oomph. To run the 13/18v switch, the 18v drops enough to not even solidly run the switch, and that's where my pixellation was coming from. To bypass the switch and directly run the LNBF, it drops to like 16 or so. Enough for the LNBF to know it's not for the vertical, but not enough to actually run the horizontal. The 13v barely drops so vertical isn't affected.
I tried running the horizontal alone, while bridging power from my GI receiver, and that made the horizontal run great. Unfortunately I don't have a 13V output on it, both the C and Ku are 18V. That's my normal setup, the FTA has all the C on H, and all the Ku on V. The 13/18V output switches the direction of the signal path. Each way has a voltage block coupler after the switch, then out to the LNB thru a splitter that draws the needed 18V from the GI receiver. The GI box also changes the polarity with the servo motor. The LNBF is nice in a way, not having to mess with polarity, but I lose the ability to tweak the skew from my living room, that's come in handy many times.
I grabbed this Freesat V7 Max from the basement, that I had bought years ago as a spare. It controls the LNBF great. I really like the interface, but it does have some glitches, like initial startup on PAL, and some satellites it will hang so you can't get the channels. Like NASA and FOX.
Today I decided to try it with the original feedhorn assembly. Sure enough, the original works great now. No interference. So I must not have 5G out here, or enough to make a difference. And if I do get it, the LNBF will come in handy for testing and all.
The Geosat has been running on fumes for a long time. First it wouldn't hold memory if the power went out, solved with the UPS I bought when I got internet out here. Then the L/R sound outputs went out so I use the coaxial with a converter. Now it's the 18V output going weak.
So it looks like I am looking for a new FTA receiver with RCA outputs. Since I love my vintage big screen 4:3 TV and all. I hear good things about the Mio. Which I would get if there's a proper HDMI converter, but everything I've read about is hit and miss. I also don't want everything to have black bars and burn in my screen. Right now most things show in 4:3. I actually quite like the Geosat. Or even the Freesat if the scanning bugs were fixed. Anything better out there?
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
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Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
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Mark Harmon Returning To 'NCIS: Origins' As Gibbs For Season 3
Mark Harmon is returning to NCIS: Origins for a season-long arc.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff nears agreement on 24-team expansion that could end title games
The College Football Playoff field is about to get much more crowded as the conferences near a deal to double the size of the field to 24 teams starting next year
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Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.
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Can't imagine what the son is going through.
Dad levitated and bled then fell to his death from coaster
Eyewitnesses have shared fresh details of the horrific accident that happened at Six Flags Over Georgia on Monday afternoon.
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Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?
Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
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Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?
Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.
Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...
NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.
Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.