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Antenna Viewers May Lose TV Channels With Video Codec Change

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harshness

Aug 5, 2022

Rare implies that the TV is unique and worth chasing after. That will likely never, ever be the case with a Samsung consumer level TV as there are cheap modern TVs that are just soooo much better.

VictoriaFTA

Aug 6, 2022

harshness said:
Rare implies that the TV is unique and worth chasing after. That will likely never, ever be the case with a Samsung consumer level TV as there are cheap modern TVs that are just soooo much better.

False.

Samsung's 2015 JS9500 series is still the ultimate TV, because it has

-Stereoscopic 3D support at up to 4K resolution. I still watch 3D Blu-ray remuxes and play PC games in 4K 3D on it to this day.
-HDR support and the brightness to back it up with its FALD lighting instead of being edge-lit like most of the garbage TVs that came out in that era. It still keeps up with the brightness levels of most modern TV models except the most high-end models you don't see for sale in Walmart
-Curved screen is more immersive than flat. The curve is a fantastic feature to have in a TV when you have a proper set up with properly set up furniture that is directly centered in front of the TV.
-Handles RGB 4:4:4 4K @ 60 Hz input fine
-10-bit panel
-Game Mode that works well and delivers some of the lowest latency of any TV model produced in its era

The model is now 7 years old and I have zero desire whatsoever to upgrade to a new display that lacks 3D technology. There are far too many movies and video games out there that look absolutely amazing in 3D. I can't imagine watching something like Avatar, Gravity, or the MCU in pancake mode. These newer TVs that don't have 3D support are absolutely ridiculous. It's crazy to me that new TV models are actually downgrades over models that came out 7 years ago.

harshness

Aug 6, 2022

VictoriaFTA said:
Samsung's 2015 JS9500 series is still the ultimate TV, because it has

The JS9500 is clearly a prosumer model. The MSRP for a 65" model was around $5,000!

VictoriaFTA said:
-Stereoscopic 3D support at up to 4K resolution. I still watch 3D Blu-ray remuxes and play PC games in 4K 3D on it to this day.

As if the market was flooded with desirable 3D titles.

VictoriaFTA said:
-HDR support and the brightness to back it up with its FALD lighting instead of being edge-lit like most of the garbage TVs that came out in that era. It still keeps up with the brightness levels of most modern TV models except the most high-end models you don't see for sale in Walmart

Absent support for Dolby Vision and up-to-date HDMI and HDCP specifications, there's some serious trade-offs.

VictoriaFTA said:
-Curved screen is more immersive than flat. The curve is a fantastic feature to have in a TV when you have a proper set up with properly set up furniture that is directly centered in front of the TV.

The public doesn't seem to agree. This also exacerbates viewing angle issues with its IPS display.

VictoriaFTA said:
-Handles RGB 4:4:4 4K @ 60 Hz input fine
-10-bit panel

Most better TVs today do that at 120Hz.

VictoriaFTA said:
-Game Mode that works well and delivers some of the lowest latency of any TV model produced in its era

One should never employ the term "in its era" when touting something as timeless.

VictoriaFTA said:
The model is now 7 years old and I have zero desire whatsoever to upgrade to a new display that lacks 3D technology. There are far too many movies and video games out there that look absolutely amazing in 3D. I can't imagine watching something like Avatar, Gravity, or the MCU in pancake mode. These newer TVs that don't have 3D support are absolutely ridiculous.

Whether it was 3D glasses or the lack of compelling content, an overwhelming majority of the buying public clearly decided that the trade-offs weren't worth it.

VictoriaFTA said:
It's crazy to me that new TV models are actually downgrades over models that came out 7 years ago.

Other than 3D and being curved (of arguable value), a modern QLED or OLED TV perhaps surpasses in most popular respects.

If Samsung had delivered on their Evolution Kits and not decided to be hardnosed about Dolby Vision, the story would be a little happier but they didn't.

VictoriaFTA

Aug 7, 2022

harshness said:
As if the market was flooded with desirable 3D titles.

Most of the best movies of the last 12 years are best experienced in 3D.

harshness said:
Absent support for Dolby Vision and up-to-date HDMI and HDCP specifications, there's some serious trade-offs.

Dolby Vision is a placebo. The improvement over HDR10 is barely noticeable and in a double blind test even most videophiles wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. It sure as hell isn't worth giving up stereoscopic 3D support for.

harshness said:
The public doesn't seem to agree. This also exacerbates viewing angle issues with its IPS display.

Normies sit around on badly placed furniture watching their televisions mounted up too high on the wall with the crappy built in speakers and constant distractions going on all around them. What's your point? For those who want a proper setup with seating positions at an optimal viewing distance and directly centered in front of the screen you can't beat the curve.

harshness said:
Most better TVs today do that at 120Hz.

Again, who cares? I have a 240Hz monitor and while there is *some* improvement going from 60 to 120 FPS, it is not nearly as drastic as 30 to 60 FPS. It's worth sacrificing 120 FPS for stereoscopic 3D.

If you're going to play games in pancake mode then you should be playing PC games on the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 monitor anyway -- the 32:9 aspect ratio combined with up to 2,000 nits of brightness in HDR mode easily makes it the best display for PC gaming ever made.

harshness said:
One should never employ the term "in its era" when touting something as timeless.

Nope, because "in its era," TVs had terrible input latency. This display was different and unique for its era because it had very low input latency. Many of these manufacturers' TVs have since improved on the input latency front, but it's still better than a lot of TVs currently on the market.

harshness said:
Whether it was 3D glasses or the lack of compelling content, an overwhelming majority of the buying public clearly decided that the trade-offs weren't worth it.

That's a false narrative too. 3D was rather well adopted in the early 2010's before 4K came along and the display manufacturers conspired with Hollywood studios to kill off 3D in the home. Display manufacturers wanted to shill higher resolutions and HDR and Hollywood studios wanted an exclusive tech you could only get by going to theaters. Anyone with a nice 3D capable TV had no reason to shell out for a movie ticket when they could watch the 3D Blu-ray instead, and Hollywood did not like that.

harshness said:
Other than 3D and being curved (of arguable value), a modern QLED or OLED TV perhaps surpasses in most popular respects.

MP3s are more popular than FLAC, DVDs and bitrate starved HD streaming is more popular than Blu-ray, sh!tty bitrate starved re-encoded a billion times MPEG-2 cable TV channels are more popular than backhauls and the H.264 master feeds on C-band. iTunes is more popular than HDtracks, and McDonald's is more popular than Culver's. WWE is the top rated TV show and "90 Day Fiance" pulls better ratings than scripted TV shows. Bitcoin is more popular than Monero and bastardized "American style" hard shell tacos are more popular than authentic street tacos. The Switch is the most popular console right now.

I couldn't give a damn about what's most popular. What's most popular is usually sh*t.

harshness

Aug 8, 2022

VictoriaFTA said:
Most of the best movies of the last 12 years are best experienced in 3D.

Clearly availability isn't related to goodness. According to Empire magazine, all but three of the twenty best 3D movies of all time were released more than 12 years ago. The most recent to appear in the Top 20 was Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse (2018). Over half of the Top 20 were animated. Three of the movies were from the mid-1950s.

VictoriaFTA said:
Dolby Vision is a placebo.

You could even more easily say that 3D is a placebo given how little of the best 3D movies were "filmed" in 3D (as opposed to rendered or synthesized).

VictoriaFTA said:
The improvement over HDR10 is barely noticeable and in a double blind test even most videophiles wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.

This is clearly made up.

VictoriaFTA said:
For those who want a proper setup with seating positions at an optimal viewing distance and directly centered in front of the screen you can't beat the curve.

How many theater seats fit in the "sweet spot" of a 65" curved IPS TV?

VictoriaFTA said:
Nope, because "in its era," TVs had terrible input latency.

Yep, because we're no longer "in its era". You're promoting your candidate a whole generation later. rtings gives the JS9500 an 8.0 overall score.

VictoriaFTA said:
That's a false narrative too. 3D was rather well adopted in the early 2010's before 4K came along and the display manufacturers conspired with Hollywood studios to kill off 3D in the home.

And here we are several years later and many of the 3D movies don't make it to home video as 3D.

VictoriaFTA said:
I couldn't give a damn about what's most popular.

A case has been made that you don't care about what's good -- just as long as it is 3D.

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VictoriaFTA

Aug 8, 2022

harshness said:
Clearly availability isn't related to goodness. According to Empire magazine, all but three of the twenty best 3D movies of all time were released more than 12 years ago. The most recent to appear in the Top 20 was Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse (2018). Over half of the Top 20 were animated. Three of the movies were from the mid-1950s.

I don't care about the opinions of some boomer magazine. Why are britbongs judging something produced by a different country anyway? Like they're the movie experts. Might as well have Canadians judging the best tacos.

42 out of the 50 highest-grossing films of all time are available in, and greatly enhanced by, 3D. Including the #1 movie, of which the 3D was the primary draw. Why would I want to watch Avatar flat?

List of highest-grossing films - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Buying a TV that can't properly display the best version of 42 out of the biggest 50 films of the 21st century is a non-starter.

harshness said:
You could even more easily say that 3D is a placebo given how little of the best 3D movies were "filmed" in 3D (as opposed to rendered or synthesized).

It's called post-production. Most of what you see in the final product isn't "filmed." This is a ridiculous argument.

CG is a placebo given how little of the best CG movies were "filmed" in CG.

harshness said:
How many theater seats fit in the "sweet spot" of a 65" curved IPS TV?

Who cares? Who has a theater in their house? Why would I want 50 strangers coming over to my house to watch a movie?

harshness said:
And here we are several years later and many of the 3D movies don't make it to home video as 3D.

A case has been made that you don't care about what's good -- just as long as it is 3D.

It's already been established that the normie cattle are woefully ignorant of how much better their movies could be if they were to see them in 3D. Popularity != quality. I made my point so comprehensively with my examples I see you flat out ignored them with your retort, indicating that the argument was so strong you knew you had nothing to refute it. We don't need to retread this ground again.

harshness

Aug 9, 2022

VictoriaFTA said:
I don't care about the opinions of some boomer magazine. Why are britbongs judging something produced by a different country anyway? Like they're the movie experts. Might as well have Canadians judging the best tacos.

You seem to be quite the bigot. Anyone that doesn't use a 3D TV to watch all their movies in 3D is a "normie" and people from other countries can't handle arithmetic.

VictoriaFTA said:
42 out of the 50 highest-grossing films of all time are available in, and greatly enhanced by, 3D. Including the #1 movie, of which the 3D was the primary draw.

Primarily because most of the population never had a 3D TV and if they saw a 3D film, it was in a theater where people weren't huddled in front of a mid-size television. I enjoyed most of Avatar but the only movie I've ever seen in 3D is Captain EO (and it wasn't "all that" for me).

It seems pretty likely that Top Gun: Maverick is likely to breeze past Avatar so I wonder how you precious JS9500 does with IMAX format.

VictoriaFTA said:
List of highest-grossing films - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As if IMDB is the be-all and end-all of ratings or collecting of box office receipts numbers and certainly doesn't contemplate what percentage of the population has or continues to view those films in 3D versus "flat".

VictoriaFTA said:
Buying a TV that can't properly display the best version of 42 out of the biggest 50 films of the 21st century is a non-starter.

For you it probably is but for the rest of the population, they don't seem to give a tinker's dam. Clearly 3D isn't the make or break attribute that you insist that it must be.

VictoriaFTA said:
It's called post-production. Most of what you see in the final product isn't "filmed." This is a ridiculous argument.

Labeling things seems to be your shtick. It doesn't make your arguments any more credible.

VictoriaFTA said:
CG is a placebo given how little of the best CG movies were "filmed" in CG.

It certainly doesn't contribute to the "physics" of the movie in the overall "suspension of disbelief" if the effects are gone overboard to pop out of the screen.

VictoriaFTA said:
Who cares? Who has a theater in their house?

A viewing party of three or larger could be a problem for such a TV. Of course if you have bunk beds stacked in front of the TV, it might be easier. Perhaps your household is relatively small so the sweet spot isn't a problem.

VictoriaFTA said:
It's already been established that the normie cattle are woefully ignorant of how much better their movies could be if they were to see them in 3D.

If they're uncomfortable wearing 3D glasses, is it really better? While a non-HDR/WCG TV can do about 34% of the visible palette, the JS9500 hits just 54%. Do you insist that the color reproduction isn't important? Perhaps that's why there are so many animated films in the 3D list.

VictoriaFTA said:
Popularity != quality.

I submit that there's another important inequality: 3D < must have.

navychop

Aug 9, 2022

I seem to recall a bit about UHD potentially enabling much better 3D, even without glasses. No more headaches.

But it seems the bloom was off the rose for 3D by then and there was no business case to pursue that technology.

FWIW, I wish my Sony 900 supported 3D, even though I have little interest in 3D. I'd have at least given it a try at home. Poor experience in the theatre- bad seating.

And now we'll never see the Ronco Holosuite.

dsspredator

Aug 11, 2022

A couple years ago, CHCH-TV in Hamilton Ontario tested a 1080p MPEG4 sub channel.
It only showed a test pattern.

Out of my 5 TVs, only Samsung would scan in the channel.
Not LG or Panasonic.

harshness

Aug 11, 2022

dsspredator said:
Out of my 5 TVs, only Samsung would scan in the channel.
Not LG or Panasonic.

It typically comes down to when the TV was manufactured. If it was built before 2008-9, there's not a great chance and even if the hardware could handle AVC, the firmware may not.

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JSheridan

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Last reply 16 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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MikeD-C05

Sep 26, 2026

I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 26, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH

I have the same wish.

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Strega

Friday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Friday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Mister B

Saturday at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 10:40 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

can't forget the little blue m&m's

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charlesrshell

Today at 11:23 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

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bnewt

Today at 3:30 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I have the same wish.

Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:49 PM

charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

i wouldn't know

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osu1991

Today at 3:54 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

Doesn't mean that satellite would have to go away. Dish is already in the game with Sling which needs a good overhaul

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JSheridan

56 minutes ago

Dish Anywhere has gotten a lot better but still has no Pause/Play/Skip Trick Play controls on the national channels that stream from Dish and that don't come from you Hopper. DirecTV Stream doesn't have that limitation.

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Scott Greczkowski

16 minutes ago

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.

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TheForce

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Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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comfortably_numb

Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

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Foxbat

Saturday at 11:47 AM

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

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comfortably_numb

Saturday at 11:56 AM

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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harshness

Yesterday at 12:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
medieval chain armor

Aka "mail" or "maille".

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

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36 minutes ago

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vlad_

Last reply Today at 4:10 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Thinking of switching to DirecTV

I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?

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navychop

Sep 28, 2026

I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

vlad_

Sep 29, 2026

navychop said:
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

slow_poke_pete

Sep 29, 2026

vlad_ said:
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

Tom Speer

Sep 29, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

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Jimbo

Oct 2, 2026

JSheridan said:
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?

Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 3, 2026

Jimbo said:
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

JSheridan

Oct 3, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 4, 2026

JSheridan said:
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

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JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

b4pjoe said:
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

why not just do a rebranding of the two :what

JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
why not just do a rebranding of the two

As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

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b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

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Nominal

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

JSheridan

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

JSheridan said:
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

Nominal said:
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin

been there

slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

JSheridan said:
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what

robjlevin

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:10 PM

Tom Speer said:
If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!

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Comptech

Last reply Today at 4:07 PM · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio

Base antenna for SiriousXM

Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.

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cp2k

Jul 5, 2026

The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

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Arctic_fox

Jul 6, 2026

cpalmer2k said:
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny

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Comptech

Jul 6, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!

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Comptech

Jul 7, 2026

Last year they ate through my times microwave LMR400 for my CB! had to cut it back and put male and female connectors on it. So much for having a pristine run of LMR400.

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Arctic_fox

Jul 16, 2026

i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:07 PM

these are good for travel

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Last reply Today at 3:37 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, who memorably played Chekov in the original "Star Trek" series and seven "Star Trek" feature films, died Sunday in Los Angeles.

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Bobby

Today at 2:03 PM

Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...

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Today at 3:32 PM

Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...

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Rest In Peace

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Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Today at 1:27 PM

The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

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osu1991

Today at 1:32 PM

For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

Jimbo

Today at 2:16 PM

Yespage said:
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

As for meeting each other, you say they automatically avoid ... not really, if I recall, when Ohio State won in 2 years ago, they had the toughest route to win it all .... they played Tennessee, then it was the #1 team Oregon, in round 2 then Texas in round 3 then Notre Dame in the Finals .... thats hardly avoiding the tough match ups.

Personally, I don't want to see 42- 10 blowouts in the first 2 rounds ....

Not sure where you found lesser teams beating higher ranked teams ... (outside of the Top teams, which any could beat each other (1-8).

Which in my opinion is where the Playoffs should be teams 1-8 .
Team number 64 has ZERO chance to win 4-5 games against top teams.

Btw, whens the last time a (in basketball) 32-64 ranked team WON it all, or even got to the Final 2 ?????

I'll wait.

Yespage

Today at 3:04 PM

You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?

Ronnie-

Today at 3:26 PM

I see alot saying nobody is good because several have a loss or two. I disagree. I think more teams are good now, and even.

Its made for some more competitive games imo.

Ronnie-

Today at 3:30 PM

osu1991 said:
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

The NIL and tranfer portal definitely need some work, or guidelines, but it has evened stuff out somewhat.

Even the expanded playoff. While it does make a single regular season game less relevant in the overall picture, its added a different level of interest imo. Losing a game, or two even, doesnt mean your season is over. The teams still have ALOT to play for.

I am not as against this (as a whole that still needs tweaking) as I thought I would be. More competitive football, I think that is a good thing.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 12:33 PM

Long Hot Summer - Keith Urban

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Today at 12:44 PM

Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies

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Today at 2:09 PM

Cool Jerk - The Mindbenders

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Today at 2:53 PM

Cool Change - Little River Band

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 2:53 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Oct 10, 2026

Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.

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dfergie

Oct 12, 2026

TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Mr Tony

Oct 19, 2026

Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles.

(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)

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TRG

Oct 19, 2026

Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.

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dfergie

Oct 19, 2026

Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)

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TRG

Today at 2:53 PM

Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.

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Today at 2:22 PM · posted in Linus Tech Tips

How to Switch to Linux

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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iPhone Duo-Maxxing

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