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Last reply Oct 9, 2022 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Disney Networks Dispute Recitifed

I'm stunned, ESPN and it's other channels are my most watched, especially on the weekends, football, baseball, Formula One, etc.

I am pissed and don't know if I'm gonna be able to stay with Dish over this.

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TigerWoodsLibido

Oct 1, 2022

Dish is going to go bankrupt. Switch to a better provider.

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Josephinelcajon

Oct 1, 2022

TigerWoodsLibido said:
Dish is going to go bankrupt. Switch to a better provider.

No way they have always done this and I love and support it 100% otherwise our rates would be crazy high!

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ashutto20

Oct 1, 2022

Josephinelcajon said:
No way they have always done this and I love and support it 100% otherwise our rates would be crazy high!

They have always done this... And other providers do too... But Dish says all the right things... End of the day... Prices never go down (Usually up) and we keep losing channels while paying a higher amount

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bnewt

Oct 1, 2022

ashutto20 said:
They have always done this... And other providers do too... But Dish says all the right things... End of the day... Prices never go down (Usually up) and we keep losing channels while paying a higher amount

Exactly
Been saying this for years
Keep paying more for less

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HipKat

Oct 3, 2022

bnewt said:
typical answer when someone has a different opinion

you probably don't pay for your dish service so it makes no difference to you
but for those of us that have been through this crap for years all in the name of "keeping prices low" are worn out with it
paying the same monthly fee for lesser channels is not good business for the customer. For me, the loss of these channels
represents a loss of approximately 10% of the service that I pay for. Is Dish going to reduce my bill by 10%. No they will not
They may offer a few dollars for a month or 2 or offer the dreamscapes or what ever they are called, but nothing that amounts to anything

alternately, those that live in rural areas and do not have access to cable or fast internet have no options other than Dish or Direct
just like the hopper+ advertised as the next great creation by Dish, yet those that have made the jump would hardly agree
Is Dish going to refund their money.......I doubt it very much

Actually, I paid full price for my Dish service when I had Dish service. I left Dish over 2 years ago for 100% streaming for a fraction of the price with 10 times the service and viewing pleasure. I personally don't know why anyone with great internet would continue to pay over $100 a month to watch 7 channels of Pay TV and those that live in areas without great internet need to be introduced to Starlink.

The fact is, this shutdown was barely a minute old before some people were crying about how the sky was falling, and for someone who has been through this "for years" should know that in almost every case, the disputes are typically resolved rather quickly and might just want to take a pause and see what happens before they start ringing the alarm bells

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Ronnie-

Oct 5, 2022

HipKat said:
The fact is, this shutdown was barely a minute old before some people were crying about how the sky was falling, and for someone who has been through this "for years" should know that in almost every case, the disputes are typically resolved rather quickly and might just want to take a pause and see what happens before they start ringing the alarm bells

The issue with this one is it was such a surprise, and it happened on a saturday during college football season, which is one thing that many that still pay for live tv want to see, well, live. They had little time or recourse to find alternatives for those games if they werent already set up with or familiar with streaming services.

Had it happened on say a wednesday, I doubt the outcry would have been as severe, and some that did swap, would have waited until the weekend or close to it before pulling the plug.

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HipKat

Oct 5, 2022

Ronnie- said:
The issue with this one is it was such a surprise, and it happened on a saturday during college football season, which is one thing that many that still pay for live tv want to see, well, live. They had little time or recourse to find alternatives for those games if they werent already set up with or familiar with streaming services.

Had it happened on say a wednesday, I doubt the outcry would have been as severe, and some that did swap, would have waited until the weekend or close to it before pulling the plug.

That's a good point.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 5, 2022

bnewt said:
Exactly
Been saying this for years
Keep paying more for less

This would be the slogan that all linear Cable /Satellite would use to describe their service these days. :wink

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dare2be

Oct 7, 2022

HipKat said:
That's a good point.

That was the entire point. Disney wanted to produce shock value and an uproar with Dish subscribers in order to build inflated leverage.

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sam_gordon

Oct 7, 2022

dare2be said:
That was the entire point. Disney wanted to produce shock value and an uproar with Dish subscribers in order to build inflated leverage.

So do you think:
A) When the two signed the very first contract, they looked ahead to say "ok, when this expires in 2022, it will happen on a Saturday"? Assuming they keep doing the same dates (starting Oct 1 for three years), that means the last time the contract would have expired on Sept 30, 2019... a Monday.
B) There is language in the contract that prevents Dish from indicating the contract is about to expire?

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dare2be

Oct 7, 2022

sam_gordon said:
So do you think:
A) When the two signed the very first contract, they looked ahead to say "ok, when this expires in 2022, it will happen on a Saturday"? Assuming they keep doing the same dates (starting Oct 1 for three years), that means the last time the contract would have expired on Sept 30, 2019... a Monday.
B) There is language in the contract that prevents Dish from indicating the contract is about to expire?

Yes. They saw an opportunity with how the date aligned with the contract expiration and rolled with it. Otherwise they could have agreed to keep the channels on past the expiration while negotiating, which happens all the time.

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sam_gordon

Oct 7, 2022

dare2be said:
Yes. They saw an opportunity with how the date aligned with the contract expiration and rolled with it. Otherwise they could have agreed to keep the channels on past the expiration while negotiating, which happens all the time.

Or, the negotiations were going on for so long with neither side budging, so they decided to use this step. It apparently worked.

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dare2be

Oct 7, 2022

sam_gordon said:
Or, the negotiations were going on for so long with neither side budging, so they decided to use this step. It apparently worked.

Apparently it did. Channel owners have all the leverage, able to pit the service providers' customers directly against them. It's no wonder TV retransmission prices have more than doubled the rate of inflation over the last decade or more (let alone the fiscal irresponsibility of wildly outbidding each other for exclusive content).

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sam_gordon

Oct 8, 2022

dare2be said:
Apparently it did. Channel owners have all the leverage, able to pit the service providers' customers directly against them. It's no wonder TV retransmission prices have more than doubled the rate of inflation over the last decade or more (let alone the fiscal irresponsibility of wildly outbidding each other for exclusive content).

Really? MVPDs have no leverage whatsoever? So why is there any negotiation? Why can't the channel owners just say "we want $100 per subscriber per month"? The MVPDs have BIG leverage. They can say "no". People on here seem to be proud that Dish has been willing to say no. If that's not leverage, I'm not sure what is.

And really? Comparing to the level of inflation? I'm pretty sure many products have done that. Now, I totally agree with you about the high dollar amounts paid for exclusive content.

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mwdxer1

Oct 8, 2022

MikeD-C05 said:
This would be the slogan that all linear Cable /Satellite would use to describe their service these days.

The problem is, the studio's want a lot more money for their product.

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mwdxer1

Oct 8, 2022

sam_gordon said:
Really? MVPDs have no leverage whatsoever? So why is there any negotiation? Why can't the channel owners just say "we want $100 per subscriber per month"? The MVPDs have BIG leverage. They can say "no". People on here seem to be proud that Dish has been willing to say no. If that's not leverage, I'm not sure what is.

And really? Comparing to the level of inflation? I'm pretty sure many products have done that. Now, I totally agree with you about the high dollar amounts paid for exclusive content.

Dish says no a lot of the time, but every time Dish loses an important channel(s), then they lose subs. If Dish raises their fees, then a lot of people want to cut the cord. They can't win...

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drwatson618

Oct 8, 2022

mwdxer1 said:
Dish says no a lot of the time, but every time Dish loses an important channel(s), then they lose subs. If Dish raises their fees, then a lot of people want to cut the cord. They can't win...

This is true. It's hard to win with a product that is approaching obsolescence. We're approaching the days where satellite TV is only the best option for consumers who don't have good high speed internet options.

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sam_gordon

Oct 9, 2022

mwdxer1 said:
Dish says no a lot of the time, but every time Dish loses an important channel(s), then they lose subs. If Dish raises their fees, then a lot of people want to cut the cord. They can't win...

But isn't that the "cost of doing business"?

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I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Oct 13, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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MikeD-C05

Sunday at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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harshness

Sunday at 2:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 1:35 PM

harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

Yesterday at 1:59 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

klang

Yesterday at 2:04 PM

I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.

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harshness

Today at 5:36 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.

That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.

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Bobby

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As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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