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electronmini
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Hi, I am back to this forum after more than 15 years watching PBS on 125W with my dish ans Openbox9.
I moved from Ontario Canada and now in Austin Texas having a hard time getting to set up the disk now on the roof.
Got my dish aiming to close to 222, and 43.6 elevation and got a strong signal the seemed to my that was 117W.(blind scan).
This was based on the channels that show lyngsat compared to my blind scan.
Looking at DishPointer I compare Az (magnetic) and elevation with 117 and decided that needed to move the dish like this:
117W=211.4 Az and 48.6 elevation
125W=222.2 43.6 ------->> moved dish 5 degrees down (Harbor Freight indicator on Dish support)
and about 11 degrees clockwise (looking from the sky).
Well,I could not find any signal reasonable and started to move dish around the area until I got some strong signals, so I focused the dish on the strongest of a signal or two (done in two or three different locations) and get blind scans but cannot find and easy way to determine which satellite is the dish pointing on each finding. I used google trying to find which satellites contain for example the phrase: "Canal del Congreso" when I got 116W.
But when I try to find satellites by frequency for example 11792 H 20500 or using PID's number from scanned screen I am not getting anywhere.
I realize that now at 84 do not have the same capabilites that had 15 ago, but resist the idea of giving up and buying and expensive satellite finder. The one I have was $5 15 years ago and does do get signals.
Now the QUESTION: Does anyone have a suggestion on a alternative plan of action or how to determine what satellite I am looking at?

Something Weird happened this morning while using the Openbox 9 to write down info from the screen to try to find them on lyngsat DOT com:
even that all channels listed where labeled $ (scrambled) the screen started to show the channels perfectly and I am sure those where encrypted channels. I must done something with the remote without realizing. Any ideas?
UPDATE: just went to check those scrambled channels and they are now scrambled !!!!!
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Keith Brannen
I am not aware of any other FTA books (haven't really checked, though) most information can usually be found through google or youtube, or reading sites like this one, which is filled with good information and knowledgeable and experienced members.
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electronmini
I am not aware of any other FTA books (haven't really checked, though) most information can usually be found through google or YouTube, or reading sites like this one, which is filled with good information and knowledgeable and experienced members.
Thanks, I will try that. Today I will have some time to move the dish from 117W to 125W AMC21 and planning again to use the Harbor freight "Inclinometer" that appears to give at east half degree accuracy judging by the scale (for elevation) and for Az I was planning to run a wood stick horizontally against the front of the dish and "Site by eye) a point on the roof for the current Az, then by calculating "trigonometrically" the angle to correct from 117 to 125 mark on the reference point just sited what the new position should be on the roof site line used before.
Hoping i would be very close and then just explore around that point until I get some Sat signal. I cannot think of any other more accurate way to move the dish and still puzzled why 125W eludes me now when a few years ago I have done it in just a few minutes and also much closer to the horizon that this 34.6elevtion on a roof!
I am also concern why I get on 80+ signal strength, could that be that my RG6 is like 20 years old and has more resistance/loses? What factors affect signal strength? Is it worth to try to place a Signal Booster just after the LNB?
I am running a probably 50 ft cable from the roof to the receiver.
In the past when accessing a forum has been very helpful to me to find "Sticky" Posts/Explanations that deal to the nitty gritty with all details and factors influencing the subject discussed. Do we have that on this forum?
This week I should be getting my FTA book on the mail.
Once more, thank for your patience and help.
Keith Brannen
I am also concern why I get on 80+ signal strength, could that be that my RG6 is like 20 years old and has more resistance/loses? What factors affect signal strength? Is it worth to try to place a Signal Booster just after the LNB?
I am running a probably 50 ft cable from the roof to the receiver.
Signal Strength is not really important, with most receivers it is just an indication that an LNB is attached and working. Signal Quality is the only reading that matters. A signal booster for a short run of cable (such as you have) would not help, in fact, would probably worsen the SQ as it boosts the noise as well. Only long runs of cable (200ft? or so) would benefit with a signal booster, and even then don't think it helps much, as far as I recall.
electronmini
Signal Strength is not really important, with most receivers it is just an indication that an LNB is attached and working. Signal Quality is the only reading that matters. A signal booster for a short run of cable (such as you have) would not help, in fact, would probably worsen the SQ as it boosts the noise as well. Only long runs of cable (200ft? or so) would benefit with a signal booster, and even then don't think it helps much, as far as I recall.
Thanks a bunch finally conquered the monster an after two moves I when they to 125W AMC21.
I get close to 90% Sig. Strength and 72 Signal Quality, so I am in business with PBS on satellite. I was much more difficult to find the signal than when I got at North Ontario-Canada.
Thanks Keith and all other that gave their time an experience to get this old foggy back to Satellite.
Thanks
Here is what I get, and the one more question: These are stations from Montana, and I have being able to learn where to get the satellite schedules for Al those channels. None of Montana PBS schedules on the web shows schedule. I get a monthly guide as PBS Sustainer Member, but do specify channels for satellite.
Any clues?
electronmini
Thanks a bunch finally conquered the monster an after two moves I when they to 125W AMC21.
I get close to 90% Sig. Strength and 72 Signal Quality, so I am in business with PBS on satellite. I was much more difficult to find the signal than when I got at North Ontario-Canada.
Thanks Keith and all other that gave their time an experience to get this old foggy back to Satellite.
Thanks
Here is what I get, and the one more question: These are stations from Montana, and I have being able to learn where to get the satellite schedules for Al those channels. None of Montana PBS schedules on the web shows schedule. I get a monthly guide as PBS Sustainer Member, but do specify channels for satellite.
Any clues?
Keith Brannen
Excellent news! Glad to have been able to help.
Schedules for the channels you are getting can be found on titantv.com
The 12183 mux are national feeds. Montana PBS (one channel) is very weak on the satellite, and it doesn't appear that you are getting it (I use to get it when it was stronger, but haven't in a long time).
To find the schedule for the channels, use the search function at titantv.com for what is listed after the channel name that scanned in:
HD01 - PBSHD (which is PBS EAST)
HD02 - PBSHDW (which is PBS WEST)
SD02 Create - CREATE
SD04 World - PBSWORLD
HD06 - PBS KIDS
FNX SD08 - FNX

HD03 is various feeds, and I don't know of any schedule available.

Enjoy!
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electronmini
Excellent news! Glad to have been able to help.
Schedules for the channels you are getting can be found on titantv.com
The 12183 mux are national feeds. Montana PBS (one channel) is very weak on the satellite, and it doesn't appear that you are getting it (I use to get it when it was stronger, but haven't in a long time).
To find the schedule for the channels, use the search function at titantv.com for what is listed after the channel name that scanned in:
HD01 - PBSHD (which is PBS EAST)
HD02 - PBSHDW (which is PBS WEST)
SD02 Create - CREATE
SD04 World - PBSWORLD
HD06 - PBS KIDS
FNX SD08 - FNX

HD03 is various feeds, and I don't know of any schedule available.

Enjoy!
Well, thanks again. Now I have a different problem. Not that serious but anoying and not sure if should be in this thread or start new one.
I bough a brand new GT Midia Sat. Receiver V7 S5X and works perfectly as receiver but she i tryied to record and insert the 1.9 TeraBites stick and try to access the menu on setting HDD or manage DVR freezes up ckmpletly that I need to pull the plug off.
Should I start another thread since is a different subject?
The one page manual es us useless (font #4) and does not address this menu at all.
Maybe I can find someone that has one like it?
It has two USB ports, one in the front; another in the back. No mention which one goes the memory stick. Tryied the fron first for logic, but both just freeze the handset. ???
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Keith Brannen
Start a new thread in the FTA Receiver / Equipment section. I don't have GT Media Satellite Receiver V7 S5X, so can't help, but someone might be able to help you out.
electronmini
Start a new thread in the FTA Receiver / Equipment section. I don't have GT Media Satellite Receiver V7 S5X, so can't help, but someone might be able to help you out.
Thank Keith.
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Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
I've saved a boatload of money!
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only stick I with the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Guide says Nascar race, I get the baseball game on two channels.
long_time_Dish
Guide says Nascar race, I get the baseball game on two channels.
Yeah, I was bummed. It was supposed to be the NASCAR race in 4K...
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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Foxbat
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Bobby
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
​
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
​
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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K
Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
K
PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
D
Weekly Analysis for 10/14/2026:
K
NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles
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The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.
They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693
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WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls
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The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
R
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
lovin my hopper 3 and my wireless joey i can roll the tv all over the house if i wanted to :oops: 🤔
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Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
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Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...