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Stuart Sweet
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Here's the kind of problem that I hope to have some day. I hope to have a boat so big that I need to worry that one cell booster isn't going to cover it. It sounds like the stuff that dreams are made of, right? But the struggle is real, and I've been asked this very question multiple times. In order to understand the answer, you need a little background.

Why boats have bad cell reception


It is, in fact, a myth that boats have bad cell reception. Cell reception on the water is much better than it is on land. Where you need to be 1.5-2 miles from a cell tower on land, you can often be as much as 10 miles away from a tower if you're on the water. It comes down to all that open space between you and the towers. The signal isn't being blocked by hills, trees, or buildings. So it comes in loud and clear.

The problem comes when trying to get cell service in the cabin. The construction of the boat blocks a lot of signal, as do the wires and conduits that are in the walls. And, if you're below the water line, you're almost always out of luck.

That's why I recommend cell phone signal boosters for boats.

The magic of a cell booster


A cell booster takes signal from outside, massively amplifies it, and brings it inside where it's blasted out through an antenna. It does the same in reverse, sending stronger signals back to the tower than your phone could. Best of all, it's a buy-once, use-always solution with no monthly fee and no data cap. It sounds almost too good to be true, but it isn't.

There are two kinds of cell boosters: vehicle and in-building. Vehicle boosters aren't designed to be upgraded, while many in-building boosters can be scaled to fit spaces of 100,000 square feet or more. Vehicle boosters are only approved to amplify the signal about 10,000 times, while in-building boosters can amplify it an astounding 10,000,000 times over. Vehicle boosters have a lower amount of amplification because vehicles are typically smaller than buildings, and because they could conceivably be right next to other vehicles with boosters. You don't want to cross signals with another booster… both devices will cut power before there's a problem. That just means you don't get the bang for your buck that you should.

The boat problem


Generally speaking, boats are considered vehicles not buildings. That means that even if they are the size of a building, they're limited to using vehicle-level cell boosters. These systems aren't really designed to be scaled up, so there will be spots with great service and spots that are still dead.

There are two ways of dealing with this, and they're pretty predictable.

The illegal way


The first thing you could do is buy a large building cell booster and install it on your boat. Technically this is illegal and I'm not advising it. However, I'm completely aware that the FCC isn't going to sail out to your boat, measure the signals, and board it looking for contraband cell boosters. In other words, you're not going to get caught. This is especially true if you don't turn the booster on while your in the harbor.

The legal way, which is still pretty good


The other option is to use multiple vehicle-level cell boosters. Yes, it does work even though it's not really designed for it. The key is to put the boosters as far apart as possible. If they are too close, they will step down their power to avoid causing problems. This will probably cause worse cell service everywhere

Here's how I'd do it if I were doing it


I'd put the indoor antenna for one booster at one end of the boat. I'd put the other indoor antenna on the other end of the boat. Then I'd turn them both on and see what you have. If you need to put a third booster in the middle of the boat, do that.

A lot of people ask if you could just run multiple antennas from one booster. A vehicle cell booster isn't really powerful enough for that, and what will happen is that you'll get worse service everywhere.

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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
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If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.