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Stuart Sweet
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
· posted in The Solid Signal Blog
Sometimes, DIRECTV's loss is this blog's gain. The confusion around its recent new products has meant a bonanza of new readers here at The Solid Signal Blog. If you're one of them, welcome!

DIRECTV has two products that look identical. To make matters worse they even have the same name. The Gemini for Satellite is for customers who have a satellite dish on their roofs and have a Genie DVR. The Gemini for Internet is for folks who get their DIRECTV programming from the internet 100% of the time. This article is about the satellite version specifically.

The way Gemini (for satellite) works


The Gemini is a rather interesting beast. It's not a satellite receiver, not really. It's not even a satellite TV client similar to the company's 4K Genie Mini. The Gemini is really an Android TV box. It's most similar to something like a Fire Stick or something along that line. It tricks you into thinking it's a DIRECTV satellite box by running an app called "Gemini" that looks and acts just like a DIRECTV box. That app starts when you turn the Gemini on so that you feel like you're using a regular DIRECTV client box.

The Gemini gets its satellite information from a Genie DVR. It gets the ability to run apps from the internet. Both of these come from a single wired or wireless connection. But what if you lose satellite, internet, or both? I've done some digging and some tests. Here are the answers.

If you lose satellite connection


The Gemini will work if the satellite signal is lost. You still need a connection to the Genie DVR, so it won't work with a cut cable or lost Wi-Fi. But, if you have some temporary rain fade or a bad dish, it will work for a couple of hours.

The Gemini won't work if you take it on the road with you. It will stop working after a few hours of being disconnected from the Genie DVR. If you have a long-term satellite signal loss, DIRECTV's Signal Saver technology works great. However, it doesn't work forever. It's designed for short outages, not long ones.

So, here's the bottom line. You can't disconnect your Gemini and take it with you. It won't work as a streaming box unless you connect it to a Genie DVR. That's just not what it does. If you want to stream, you're better off picking up a reasonably priced streaming box. Several retailers routinely have them for under $30 on sale. That's a better way to go.

If you lose internet connection


Let's say you lose internet for a while. Imagine there's severe weather. There's a storm and a cable gets cut. Will the Gemini work for regular satellite TV?

The answer is, yes. You will lose some functions like voice control. Obviously you won't be able to stream anything. But, you should have access to live TV. You'll get a naggy message about reconnecting, though. If you can live with that, you should be fine.

Honestly I'm not sure how long a Gemini will work without internet. In my tests, it worked for a day. I have a feeling that means it will work indefinitely. But, I'll admit I only tested it for a day.

Still, it's enough to prove a point. Satellite TV is the best form of pay television. It's roughly 10 times more reliable than cable and when outages happen, they're usually brief. They also fix themselves most of the time. If you put all your entertainment eggs in one basket, you could find yourself without any entertainment. If that thin fiber strand going into your house breaks, you could be completely disconnected. With a satellite TV system, you're still getting live TV. That's a big difference.

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dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
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If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.