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Stuart Sweet
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Last reply · posted in The Solid Signal Blog
This question, or one like it, comes up about once a month from our customers. Usually it comes from someone who is upgrading their RV and wants to send programming to more than one TV. A lot of older RVs are pre-wired with coaxial cables and this seems like a good idea. There's only one problem: the modulator you want doesn't exist. Here's why.

What is (was) an RF modulator?


As any child of the 1980s can tell you, there once was a device built into VCRs and game consoles that let them connect to the antenna input of a television. Often times it was switchable so you could go to channel 2 or channel 3. If you had a game system, it even came with this low-tech slider so you could easily switch between antenna and game system:

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(As the memes on Facebook say, if you recognize this item, it's probably time for your colonoscopy.)

The device that made all this work was called an RF modulator. They still "kind of" exist, in fact Solid Signal still sells one. But you don't want it. Those RF modulators only work with old-school, standard-definition TV. Anything you use today, for example a satellite TV box or streaming box, will output high-definition and it won't work.

But it's the 2020s. Surely they has to be something like what they had 40 years ago.


Yes, that's what people often say to our customer service reps. Yes, you can get a modulator that will (sometimes) work with your high-definition equipment. This one is available now. It's about 50 times as expensive as the old-school one. Yes, you read that right. And, for that exorbitant price, there's not even a guarantee that it will work. In fact, there's almost a guarantee that it won't, at least not without some other device that might be illegal for regular folks to own.

So how did this happen?


It happened on purpose, that's how. In the mid-2000s, when everyone was getting into high definition, the people who made DVDs and Blu-ray discs were beginning to worry. HD television provided pure digital signals that you could use to make unlimited digital copies of things. This had them thinking that people would sell copies of movies on streetcorners or record games on ESPN and sell them.

So, the studios got together with the people who made DVD players and other home theater gear. They developed a system of copy protection so you couldn't do that, and then the studios forced the manufacturers to eliminate any outputs but the copy-protected ones.

Then, they made it incredibly expensive to get a license to work with the copy protection. This meant that the companies that made these "RF modulators" couldn't afford to offer them at low prices, and made all of it incredibly expensive.

So what are your options?


If you're looking to distribute signals over a coaxial cable, there is an option. It's not exactly the same thing, but in the end it does what you need it to do

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These little boxes, which come in a kit of two, solve the problem nicely. They let you convert the signal from your HDMI cable to a coax connection. At the other end of the line you convert it back to HDMI. If you want to use more than one TV, you can use an HDMI splitter like this one to turn one HDMI output into more than one. That way, one device (a satellite box or a streaming box or whatever) can feed multiple TVs easily.

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RV and marine customers have challenges that other folks don't have. When it comes to entertainment, you can't just hook a cable to your boat or RV while you're traveling. You need someone who understands these problems and has already developed solutions that work. The experts at Signal Connect have over 20 years working with the needs of RVs, boats, and businesses. We can help you solve the problems you didn't even know you had. Plus, we have installers who will recommend the right parts, not things like an RF modulator that are 20 years out of date.

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harshness
ATSC modulators aren't cheap but they can be had for much less than 50 times the cost of an NTSC modulator and they will transport HD programming.

A popular online reseller lists both ATSC and QAM single-channel models for under $300.

The point of modulators has historically been multi-point distribution without having create new/ndependent networking paths. Simple HDMI extenders don't offer that.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
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Now live:
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4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.