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Stuart Sweet
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· posted in The Solid Signal Blog
Everything has to start somewhere. Today we take the idea of icons for granted. They're part of our computers and phones and we all understand why. Sometimes they're well-designed and sometimes they're just pictures that kind of remind us what we're doing. If they've been around long enough they can be really vague and still work. Want proof?

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Remember this? It was the Instagram's original logo. (Side note: remember when icons actually looked like a thing? Now they're all just squggles.) It's obviously a camera, although if you're "of a certain age" you know it's this particular camera.

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Way back when, that camera meant fun, instantaneous images, and sharing. That's what Instagram was shooting for.

Except, then Instagram got way more popular than Polaroid ever was and Polaroid (now owned by some weird Chinese company) actually started selling cameras that looked like the Instagram logo (kinda.)

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So what did Instagram do? They redesigned their icon. To wit:

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There's no way anyone could make a camera that looks like that, not really. The only problem is that if you didn't know it was a camera before, you sure weren't going to grasp it now. I'm sure the people at Instagram don't really care though.

But I digress. Here's what I really wanted to talk about.


Back in the early 1980s practically no one understood the idea of on-screen icons. To make matters worse, no one had color monitors and even black and white ones were pretty weak. The original Mac had a lower resolution for the whole screen than the resolution of a single icon today.

I'm not kidding. This is what the ENTIRE screen looked like.

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So if you were going to do icons for that, you had to be really clever. People didn't know what they were looking at and you had practically no room for pictures so you had to work HARD.

And yet, they pulled it off. If you look at that screen, you see a trash can. You see a folder. You even see a little teeny Mac with its own little teeny icons, each precisely one pixel.

That takes talent.


Specifically, it took the talent of this lady, Susan Kare, who is probably really peeved that this picture still exists.

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Ms. Kare was working at Apple on the Macintosh project and she was tasked with creating all these system icons, which turned out to be so awesome that they're in museums now. I mean, look at these. With so little room, she makes stuff perfectly clear.

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That takes talent. You know what else takes talent? Apparently she designed these things on GRAPH PAPER then translated them into long strings of numbers. She didn't even have a visual editor since the computer that would run the editor didn't exist yet.

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Just, wow.


When I first heard about this, I wanted to learn more. I read an article originally at milanote about it. That article's been taken down, but The Internet Archive still has a copy. I don't want to ruin the surprise for you but here are two little takeaways:

  • The Finder logo (top left in the image above) is the same happy face still used for Face ID on iPhones.
  • The "command" icon is actually a castle viewed from the top. But not because kings give commands, there's a different reason.

Picking up the story for this article, I found a live article from Smithsonian that covers a lot of the same topics. I'm linking it here in case that other article is lost. And, because this is the 21st century and we're all sort of connected, I found Susan Kare's Linkedin page. She's been busy since her days at Apple. In addition to having her own consultancy, she also worked for Pinterest for about six years. It seems she's done work for industry giants like Meta and gotten a bunch of awards for her work.

Seems like a great career. I'm jealous.


I don't have any illusions about anyone putting my work in a museum or using any part of it 50 years from now, but then again perhaps neither did she. Moral of the story: when you do your best work, sometimes it really does last forever.

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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith
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98.6 - Keith
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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine
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It's Easy - Boston
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.