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Stuart Sweet
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· posted in The Solid Signal Blog
Take a look at this picture. It's the back of a DIRECTV Gemini. You're probably pretty familiar with Gemini at this point, but for those who aren't: It's the latest and greatest DIRECTV box. It adds the ability to use streaming apps to a standard Genie client, giving you one device that works with everything. The Gemini has been designed for folks who want the simplest possible installation, and that's most people. Even if you have a very fancy home theater in your living room, chances are there's a bedroom or guest room with a much simpler setup somewhere in your home. That's where you'll want to put the Gemini.

Why every piece of DIRECTV gear has a USB port


Unless I'm forgetting a device, every DIRECTV box for about the last 18 years has had a USB port on it somewhere. There have been a few cases where the ports actually did something. When DIRECTV had a supported external off-air tuner, you could connect it using the USB port. For those folks in hotels, the USB port lets the hotel-specific receiver turn into a very simple 1-tuner DVR.

Beyond that though… pretty much nothing.

The list of things you can't or shouldn't do with your USB port is pretty legendary. You can't use it for an external hard drive. In most devices it only puts out 250mA so you shouldn't use it to charge your phone because it will take forever. You can't connect a USB keyboard to most DIRECTV hardware, and forget about something like a mouse.

The USB port on a Gemini


Now, the USB port on the Gemini is different. First of all it seems to put out 500mA which is enough to charge your phone slowly. It's also enough to power the external coax network adapter which you'll need.

I've had some success using the USB port with a standard USB keyboard. It does let you type things in for searches, but it's not terribly convenient and it didn't work with anything but the absolute plainest keyboard. I think it also forced the Gemini to crash at one point. In short, I wouldn't do it.

If you can't use it for anything, why is it there?


That's the big question, right? It must cost money to build in a USB port and yet you can't use it for anything. How could that possibly make sense?

There's one likely explanation. My guess is that the USB port on all DIRECTV boxes is there because it's needed in the development and testing phase. Keep in mind that these devices are essentially just simple and underpowered computers. With the exception of Gemini, they all run on Linux.

It might not be possible to program them directly on the box, and I wouldn't want to try. These devices have processors similar to early 2000s PCs. They're really slow but it doesn't matter because they do what needs to be done. Still I have to imagine that you could load new files onto them if you had root access. This would be really important during the development process. And I imagine the USB port probably makes this a lot easier.

So if it's only used for development, why is it still there?


Great question. Keep in mind that all of this is just a guess.

First of all, development doesn't stop after the device is released. Remember when you'd buy something and it would just work forever and ever? Those days are long gone. If you buy something and it has any reason to connect to the internet, it's going to get updates. Those updates take development. Right this very moment, a team of dedicated engineers is hard at work squashing bugs and adding new functionality to DIRECTV boxes. If they needed the USB port to do it during the early stages, they'll need it today, too.

The other reason is a little less obvious. When a new piece of equipment is designed, it has to go through FCC approval to make sure that it doesn't cause any interference. That approval process takes time and it's generally done long before the product is released to the public. Most importantly, once the approval is given, the hardware can't change at all. If it does, it requires a new approval.

This means that any device that goes out to the general public will have a few extra things in it just for testing purposes. Look at any teardown article or video and you'll see practically every device has some extra connector on it that isn't used in the final version. This isn't new. I remember the old Atari computers had an entire bus connector that was hidden inside the case and was never used by consumers. But it was needed when the computer was designed, so there it sat.

Best advice for that USB port on the Gemini


As I said, you can use it to power a network adapter. Otherwise, you should forget it even exists. That's the best way to think of it. Meantime, if you have any questions or are ready to upgrade to a Gemini, call the experts! We're here for you during East Coast business hours at 888-233-7563. If it's after hours, fill out the form below. We'll get right back to you!


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
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If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.