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Stuart Sweet
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OK, dear readers, let me lay some truth on you. In the 20th century, most moving images were stored on film. Video tape was pretty common but it was used mostly for live events and low-budget sitcoms. The prevailing feeling at the time was that using film imparted a look that said "quality." It's a good thing that a lot of TV shows and movies were shot on film, though. It means the film can be scanned into high definition or 4K, giving new life to old content. There's a reason that you can find Friends and The Office at the top of streaming lists while similarly popular fare like Will & Grace never make the top 10. Friends and The Office, despite being 21st-century productions, were shot on film, then edited on video tape. Will & Grace used standard-definition video for most of its run, leading to blurry, dark images. People just don't want to see that.

What's all this "grain reduction" about?


No one chose the film used for television production because it was grainy. TV producers chose it because it worked in low light. The fact that it had a low price didn't hurt either. That means it was generally grainier than the film stock used for movie production. It didn't matter at the time — scanning that film to standard-definition video eliminated all evidence of that grain. But take that same film and scan it to HD or 4K, and the grain comes through loud and clear. In fact it can be very annoying, providing a snowy appearance if you use your TV's sharpness control to give you a more pleasing picture.

In the 2010s when a lot of shows started to show up in HD versions, the people doing them commonly used computer filters to remove the grain. These filters correct for slight differences in brightness and color that come from using traditional film. The result is an image that looks as crisp and clear as anything mastered on digital HD video today. In fact, I would put Friends up against anything shot today in terms of quality and watchability. It's eminently more watchable than the HD feeds of most HBO shows today.

Things have changed


However, it's recently become popular to use absolutely no grain reduction when scanning old TV show negatives. I wasn't able to get a screen capture to show you, but compare any episode of Seinfeld on Netflix with the same episode on Comedy Central. Comedy Central uses the original HD scans, which use modest grain reduction. Netflix uses an all new 4K HDR scan that's a lot grainier and darker. The Comedy Central version might seem a little flatter and lower in general quality, but the truth is it's a lot more watchable.

Recently, Paramount+ released the classic Frasier to streaming in HD. It's really, really grainy. And that's what led me to write this article.

"the filmmaker's intent" and the argument against grain reduction


The argument against doing grain reduction usually boils down to one of two things. The first is the idea that grain reduction destroys detail. This isn't really true with today's AI-based grain reduction. That leaves the other argument, that grain reduction "goes against the filmmaker's intent." What purists will tell you is, the maker of these shows could have shot them on standard-definition video but they chose not to. There was something about the look of film that they liked. So, we should honor that choice by watching the shows as the originator intended.

I call that hogwash.


The makers of TV shows shot on film because they liked the look of it. That's true. But what they liked isn't the grain. They liked the crushed blacks and muted colors that film brought to the party. Film doesn't capture as much detail or color in the shadow areas as video tape, and for whatever reason that's what they wanted. The feeling at the time was that a show shot on film tended to have higher-quality writing and directing just because it was more expensive to shoot on film. That may have been true then. Of course now everything gets shot digitally. So the whole film argument really has no place in the 21st century.

When it came to the grain of the film, the makers of those shows chose film stocks with a lot of grain because it was cheap and because they thought no one would know. Show me one person who was making TV shows in the 1980s who thought that their work product would have a life in 4K on 80″ televisions. I'm guessing you can't find one.

My take on all of this


I agree that a little bit of film grain is a good thing if you're watching a theatrical movie. In cases like that, you did sometimes have cinematographers who consciously decided to make things grainier because they wanted that look. On the other hand, there were cases like the original Star Wars where the filmmakers admit they hated the amount of grain but the technology at the time gave them no choice.

I hope the current trend toward preserving film grain in scanned TV shows just dies. As I said earlier, Friends is a much more watchable show because the overall image quality is fairly modern. The same is true with the recent HD scan of Moonlighting, which also has very little grain inherently. If people worry so much about watching these shows as intended, they should find old copies on VHS. Then they should watch them on a 19″ tube TV. If you're not doing that, then my suggestion is to stop crowing about watching things as intended.

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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
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add to greased pan
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now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
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If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.