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Stuart Sweet
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What do your phone and washing machine have in common? More than you'd expect. Any device in your home with even the slightest bit of logic to it is probably developed using some sort of computer operating system. The days when you could connect physical switches to motors and lights are long gone. Today, everything in your modern life is governed by software. And that software almost always owes its existence to Unix, something you might not have even heard of.

A quick history of Unix


There are a lot of really long histories of Unix out there, and if you're interested in them, you can search using Google, another system which is derived from Unix. So, I'll just recap and hit the high points.

In the 1960s, AT&T was one of the most powerful tech companies in existence. They'd been researching automation for decades, as it became obvious that they'd never be able to hire enough telephone operators. They wanted computers to be robust, fail-safe, and easy to maintain. In this spirit, AT&T engineers laid out the foundation of what would later be called Unix. The name itself was a homophone of the word "eunuchs," which is just more evidence that programmers of the day had an elementary-school sense of humor.

Unix would come to embody the very basics of what we call computer software design today. It was modular, meaning one part could be upgraded without upgrading the whole system. It was designed to work on different hardware, although it would take a decade for that to be possible. And, it was designed so one part of the system could fail and other parts could recover the one failed part. These were revolutionary ideas 60 years ago.

The twin controversies of Unix


Unix was developed and sold as a commercial product. Because it became possible to run it on different computers, it became one of the first retail pieces of software. Still, this raised the very question of what sort of computer software is actually copyrightable. Here were the two prevailing thought processes at the time:

You can copyright a book so you should be able to copyright a program.


This argument will tell you that software is written by humans, and humans also write things like books and music. So, in that sense, software is a literary work and literary works can be protected by copyright. It's generally said that our American society would crumble if companies didn't have the right to profit from the things they create. In this spirit, the makers and owners of the Unix system sought for years to protect its source code from being duplicated and illegally modified.

You can't copyright a language or anything in the public parlance.


This argument says that there are things that are so universal and so common that it's largely impossible to copyright them. No one can copyright English. It's always evolving and it's in common use. Computers have languages, too, and while these were originally very simple, they have become as complex as any spoken language.

As early as the 1980s, engineers argued that they should have the right to create systems that were so much like Unix that you couldn't tell the difference. The term reverse-engineering was created which implied that if you could create a program that mimics another one without ever seeing the original source code, then you had the right to do it.

You might have some idea who won


After a number of legal skirmishes, the idea of reverse-engineering was upheld in court and this led to a number of pieces of software that act essentially like Unix but are not Unix. You're probably somewhat familiar with two of them.

If you dig deep enough into the terms and conditions of practically any piece of software (not that anyone does) you'll find the term "GNU General Public License." GNU was a project back in the 1980s to develop a form of Unix that anyone could use if they followed a few rules. While GNU itself never amounted to much, the rules it created are still with us, and that's what the General Public License is.

The other software you've undoubtedly heard of is Linux. Linux was developed as an academic exercise by Linus Torvalds and has become the predominant operating system in the world for everything from web servers to calculators. It's also either inspired or led directly to every computing device you use today.

The legacy of Unix


Unix itself is still out there. The name is protected and the source code is very proprietary. As a result, it's long since been left in the dust by Linux, Linux variants, and Linux-like operating systems. It's a historical footnote today. But take a look at just a few things that owe a lot of their operation to Unix.

  • DIRECTV and DISH DVRs use Linux and the GNU General Public License.
  • Android is derived directly from Linux, and so is Google TV.
  • Every Apple product is based on the Mach kernel and software from other first-generation open source Unix-like operating systems.
  • The popular program Apache, which runs a huge percentage of web sites, is a core part of most Unix-like operating systems, including Linux.
  • Linux is part of the operating system for Tesla automobiles and other manufacturers use it as well.

It's a pretty comprehensive list. Experienced "whatabouters" might point out that Microsoft Windows is not part of that list. Yeah, but it sort of is. While Windows itself isn't considered Unix-like, it uses core ideas from the development of Unix. There are also tons of other apps that run on top of Windows that are either developed or refined on Unix-like systems. No, Windows isn't Unix. But without Unix, there'd be no Windows.

Food for thought


What if some major vulnerability in Unix were to be discovered? What if that vulnerability were such a key part of the Unix system architecture that it couldn't be fixed or removed without a global effort? Imagine the chaos that would ensue. It would make the Y2K bug look like a child's toy.

Even more interestingly, although unlikely, will Unix's humble origins come back and destroy us in the age of AI? That idea has been mined in science fiction for fifty years. Famously, Star Trek: The Motion Picture posited the idea that a platform built on simple software could become self-aware, misinterpret its original directives, and threaten life on Earth. Not long ago I'd have called that unlikely. These day, with the rapid evolution of AI, I'm not so sure. Let's hope that some of that legendary low humor that started the Unix project doesn't come back to kill us. Because maybe, I hate to say it, it will.

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harshness
Unix lingers just for those who built their applications on it and haven't ported everything over to Linux already. See more at "emacs on the brain".
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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View: https://youtu.be/tv37YPVfHME


Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:
  • Signs of a Magma Intrusion (Dike): Summit tiltmeters recorded an unprecedented, rapid inflation spike of around 45 microradians [04:00 Opens in a new window ], accompanied by a dramatic surge of over 100 shallow earthquakes within 24 hours (peaking at a magnitude 3.4) [01:44 Opens in a new window ]. The deformation indicates that magma is intruding in an east-west orientation beneath the southern caldera/Halemaʻumaʻu region [01:16 Opens in a new window ].

  • No Rift Zone Migration: Tilt and seismic data confirm magma is remaining confined to the summit area rather than traveling down the East Rift Zone [02:40 Opens in a new window ].

  • Structural Pathways: Willsey notes that pre-existing faults and fractures expanded during the 2018 caldera collapse [08:32 Opens in a new window ]. Because these fracture zones remain unsealed, magma can move and mobilize toward the surface much faster than before [10:17 Opens in a new window ].

  • Potential Outcomes: The intrusion could stall underground without erupting, or it could feed a new east-west fissure eruption inside the summit caldera, similar to the September 2023 event [02:47 Opens in a new window ].

  • Shift to Dome Overflows: Webcam footage from overnight reveals repeated pulses of fluid lava overflowing the spatter cone at the North Vent [11:42 Opens in a new window ]. Occurring roughly every 20 to 50 minutes and lasting several minutes each [12:36 Opens in a new window ], these cyclic overflows suggest Kīlauea may be transitioning away from high-fountaining episodes toward regular surface overflows [14:54 Opens in a new window ].

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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
Add fresh hash browns, delete chocolate for milk with a slice of bacon.
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Bacon, eggs, hash browns and toast. Coffee.
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Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
dfergie
Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
dfergie
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
dfergie
They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams
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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues
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Six O'Clock News - John Prine
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...