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Audio for OTA channels with LCC stops working after March 12, 2024 Software Update 0x1a4a on HR44-500

After the March 12, 2024 software update 0x1a4a on the HR44-500 receiver Over the Air(OTA) local channels from the Local Channel Connector (LCC) have no audio. After tuning they have sound for a brief 1 or 2 seconds before going quiet. Only the navigation sounds of the remote can be heard. Changing to another OTA channel will occasionally have sounds for a brief time then goes quiet again.

A Directv tech came out to troubleshoot. The receiver was replaced with another HR44-500 receiver which worked properly at first. After the Software update was applied the OTA channel problem started to happen again. The attached video has audio for the Music choice channel then changing to various OTA channels when sound can be heard briefly during a car sales commercial which stops and remote navigation sounds can only be heard before returning to the Music choice channel which has sound.
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harshness
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Have your TV or sound system been updated or rearranged recently? Maybe something is gagging on the MP3 streams or they aren't being transcoded to what your sound system expects.

Have you tested the audio through some other connection (RCA, coaxial digital or optical)?
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Tom Speer
Tom Speer
I have an LCC and have not experienced the problem you described. But I am not running, and have never run version 0x1A4A. In Cutting edge testing, we tested a version leading up to 0x1A4A and did not have any LCC problems reported.
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harshness said:
Have your TV or sound system been updated or rearranged recently? Maybe something is gagging on the MP3 streams or they aren't being transcoded to what your sound system expects.

Have you tested the audio through some other connection (RCA, coaxial digital or optical)?
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I agree something is having issues with the audio signal and failing to process it correctly. It occasionally gets it right for a moment then switches off.

I have multiple signal paths active in parallel using HDMI and RCA cables.

HR44-500 receiver HDMI cable --> Samsung TV --> RCA to Onkyo AV receiver
HR44-500 fan tail adapter RCA cable --> Analog RF modulator --> additional TV

No changes have been made to the sound system components. My current setup doesn't use the coaxial digital or optical connections.

You did give me an idea to try using one connection at a time. HDMI alone had the same problems and RCA L + R audio alone had the same problems.
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Tom Speer
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Try using the speakers on your Samsung TV as a test. The HR54 is probably putting out digital audio, and the Samsung may not be converting it to analog for the RCA cables. If your TV has a ARC HDMI port, and the Onkyo has a an ARC HDMI output running the sound that way works much better. (the Audio Return Channel is an input to the Onkyo).
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harshness
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holzerp said:
HR44-500 fan tail adapter RCA cable --> Analog RF modulator --> additional TV
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So you're not getting audio on the modulator either?

Have you tried paring the system down to just the HR44 and a TV?
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Tom Speer said:
Try using the speakers on your Samsung TV as a test. The HR54 is probably putting out digital audio, and the Samsung may not be converting it to analog for the RCA cables. If your TV has a ARC HDMI port, and the Onkyo has a an ARC HDMI output running the sound that way works much better. (the Audio Return Channel is an input to the Onkyo).
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Thanks Tom. I tried just listening to the Samsung TV with no difference. Since I can hear the remote navigation tones I think the audio connections are working correctly to hear audio. It seems like the OTA tuner in the LCC or receiver is where the conversion problem is happening. The strange thing is the occasional sound that works correctly when changing channels. For brief moments it gets things right then drops out.
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harshness said:
So you're not getting audio on the modulator either?

Have you tried paring the system down to just the HR44 and a TV?
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Yes, I tried with just the HR44 --> HDMI --> Samsung TV with no Onkyo receiver and the results were the same. I also tried with just the HR44-500 fan tail adapter RCA cable --> Analog RF modulator --> additional TV and still only occasional audio for brief moments when changing channels.
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harshness
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holzerp said:
It seems like the OTA tuner in the LCC or receiver is where the conversion problem is happening. The strange thing is the occasional sound that works correctly when changing channels. For brief moments it gets things right then drops out.
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Sounds like you need to try a different LCC to scratch that itch. That said, there don't appear to be any available on eBay.

Most USB tuner dongles forward the MPEG-TS stream coming from the broadcaster containing all of the video, audio and data streams. As such, I would imagine that it is up to the DVR to parse the appropriate packets that are part of that stream.

Here's what comes from my HDHomerun (network-connected) for my local CBS channel:

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Tom Speer said:
I have an LCC and have not experienced the problem you described. But I am not running, and have never run version 0x1A4A. In Cutting edge testing, we tested a version leading up to 0x1A4A and did not have any LCC problems reported.
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Tom, is there a way for me to revert to the previous version of software before 0x1A4A? What is the version leading up to 0x1a4a that you mentioned?
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Tom Speer
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holzerp said:
Tom, is there a way for me to revert to the previous version of software before 0x1A4A? What is the version leading up to 0x1a4a that you mentioned?
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No. 0x1A4A is now the National Customer Release. Prior versions are not available on the satellite. All regular customer Genies have been upgraded to that version.
0x1A4A is the end result of the development of software cycle PI38. The Cutting Edge Program last tested a PI38 build in January, before moving on.
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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
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harshness
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
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Regular$5.899​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Diesel is all over the place around here. Saw it yesterday from $5.37 to $6.17...not sure what the obsession was with ending in 7
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$4.09 - $4.29, real gas $4.69...
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harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Security Now 1101

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FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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Now live:
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

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DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
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PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
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KyL416 said:
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
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West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.
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Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
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It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
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Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

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As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
www.colts.com

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
www.colts.com

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
www.colts.com www.colts.com
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
www.colts.com

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
www.colts.com www.colts.com
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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rvvaquero said:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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