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Stuart Sweet
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Frustrated with dropped calls and sluggish data? Signal strength might be the culprit! This guide dives into using the Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner, a powerful tool that goes beyond basic bars. It measures signal strength in detail, including 5G, to help you identify and optimise your cellular reception. Learn how to unlock the secrets of your mobile network and finally experience reliable connections. This blog post will delve into using the Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner to measure signal strength and uncover valuable insights about your cellular environment. Whether you're experiencing dropped calls or slow data speeds, this tool can be your secret weapon for optimising your mobile experience.

1: Introduction to 5G Technology


The way we connect is on the cusp of a revolution. Buckle up as we explore the exciting world of 5G technology!

5G Explained: It's the fifth generation of mobile network technology, the successor to the widely used 4G. Imagine it as a superhighway for data, offering significantly faster speeds, lower latency (response time), and vastly improved capacity.

Why is 5G Important? This isn't just about downloading movies quicker. 5G paves the way for groundbreaking advancements in various fields:

  • Seamless Streaming: Plunge into the euphoria of smooth real-time gaming, video streaming at top ultra-high definition, and reality simulation without perceivable delay.
  • The Internet of Things (IoT): Smart homes, autonomous cars, and intelligent cities aren't just 5G but also rise with it as it brings a boom in connected devices.
  • Enhanced Mobile Broadband (eMBB): Take advantage of the fast connection speeds to download excellent-quality files and watch the mode of accessing and sharing the data get modified.
  • Ultra-Reliable Low-Latency Communication (uRLLC): This is why 5G can cope with the applications developed in real-time such as car recovery systems and the operation of remote-controlled robots that need almost immediate response.

The Leap from 4G to 5G:

Compared to 4G, 5G offers a significant leap in:

  • Speed: Download speeds up to 10 Gigabits per second (Gbps), for example, will be many times higher than the 4G normal 100 Mbps.
  • Latency: The 5G boasts reduced latency dramatically, which means that increased interactions with no latency are possible.
  • Capacity: This also ensures that the network sustains a more substantial amount of connected devices at one go.

Get ready to experience a whole new level of connectivity with 5G! This technology holds immense potential to transform our lives and redefine how we interact with the world around us.

2: Features of the Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner


Looking to optimise your cellular experience? Look no further than the Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner! This innovative tool empowers you to analyse your local cell signal in detail. Let's delve into its key features:

Features at Your Fingertips:

  • 5G Savvy: Unlike older scanners, the Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner is built for the future, providing a comprehensive analysis of both 5G (including C-Band and mmWave) and 4G (LTE) networks.
  • Multi-Band Mastery: It scans a wide range of frequencies, ensuring compatibility with most cellular signals relevant to boosting. Identify bands like 4/5/12/13/14/25/66/71/77 to understand your signal landscape.
  • Cell Tower Hunter: Say goodbye to signal guessing! This scanner helps pinpoint nearby cell towers from various carriers, providing valuable information for aiming your cell signal booster antenna.
  • Signal Strength Sleuth: Measure the strength of cellular signals in your area. This data is crucial for assessing if a cell signal booster can improve your reception.

Beyond the Basics: This scanner goes a step further than its predecessors by:

  • Seamless App Integration: It pairs with the user-friendly Cell LinQ app (available for iOS and Android) for real-time data display, geo-mapping of scan results, detailed reporting, and data export for further analysis.
  • Future-Proof Technology: Investing in a scanner that supports the latest 5G technology ensures you're prepared for the evolving cellular landscape.

The Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner is a powerful tool for anyone seeking to optimise their cellular signal, especially in the age of 5G.

3: How to Measure 5G Signal Strength


Ever wished you could see your cell signal strength laid bare? The Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner makes it possible! This guide will walk you through using this tool to measure your 5G signal strength and gain valuable insights.

Get Ready to Scan:

  1. Power Up: Turn on your Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner.
  2. App Connection (Optional): For a more comprehensive experience, download the Cell LinQ app and pair it with your scanner via Bluetooth. This unlocks features like real-time data display and data export.
  3. Location, Location, Location: Find an open area with minimal obstructions for an accurate scan. Hold the scanner upright with the antenna pointing towards the sky.

Understanding the Data:

The scanner will display various metrics – don't worry, we'll break them down!

  • Signal Strength: This is usually represented by bars or a numerical value. Higher values indicate a stronger signal.
  • Signal Type: Identify if you're connected to 5G (including C-Band or mmWave) or 4G (LTE).
  • Cell Tower Information: The scanner might display details like cell tower ID, carrier information, and signal strength from nearby towers (available with the Cell LinQ app).

Interpreting the Results:

The average characteristics of the 5G cellular signal give you an idea of its quality especially, 5G. Nowadays, clients get annoyed because signal weaknesses cause disconnected calls and slow data rates. This data is of the essence for finding out if a signal booster will work if affected by the case.

The Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner empowers you to take control of your cellular experience. With this knowledge, you can make informed decisions to optimise your signal and enjoy reliable connectivity!

4: Interpreting the Results


The Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner equips you with valuable data, but what does it all mean? This section will guide you through interpreting the results and using them to troubleshoot signal issues.

Unlocking the Data:

The scanner displays various metrics, but the key ones are:

  • Signal Strength: Often represented by bars or dBm values (higher dBm signifies stronger signal).
  • Signal Type: Identifies if you're connected to 5G (including C-Band/mmWave) or 4G (LTE).
  • Cell Tower Information: Details like cell tower ID, carrier info, and nearby tower signal strength (might require the Cell LinQ app).

Understanding What You See:

By analysing these metrics, you can assess your cellular signal strength, especially 5G. Here's a general guideline:

  • Strong Signal: Repeating shaders or big bars would mean a strong signal that could be one good indication of better-than-average call quality and internet speeds.
  • Weak Signal: Showing 5 bars, or more than -70dBm, puts the signal strength less than ideal, making your phone prone to dropped calls, slow data downloads, and intermittent data connections.

Troubleshooting Tips:

Based on your signal strength, here are some troubleshooting pointers:

  • Strong Signal: You might not necessarily need a cell signal booster. However, the scanner can still be helpful for optimising your existing setup (e.g., antenna placement).
  • Weak Signal: A cell signal booster might be a viable solution to amplify your signal and improve connectivity. The specific booster model depends on your signal type and needs.

Need Help? We're Here for You!

If you have any confusion regarding the data interpretation or if you have needed questions, feel free to get in touch with the customer care services of Solid Signal. They know all about the cues that cells send and will help you in finding the best answer depending on your situation. Solid Signal has over 20 years of experience diagnosing cell service problems.

You may wish to consider outsourcing options. If you're a professional installer, you can leverage their resources and expertise to assist your clients with signal analysis and cell signal booster recommendations. This support outsourcing model not only streamlines the installation process but also ensures that clients receive the most effective and customised signal enhancement solutions, backed by Wilson Pro's comprehensive technical expertise.

5: Case Studies and Real-world Applications


The Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner isn't just a fancy gadget – it's a powerful tool with real-world applications. Let's explore how businesses and individuals are utilising this scanner to optimise their cellular experience:

Empowering Businesses:

  • Rural Businesses: Farms, remote offices, and construction companies can pinpoint weak signal areas, enabling them to strategically place cell signal boosters for improved communication and employee productivity.
  • Retail Stores: Ensure seamless customer experiences by identifying signal dead zones within stores, allowing for targeted booster placement to guarantee smooth credit card transactions and mobile payments.
  • Event Organisers: Festivals and outdoor events often have spotty cell service. The scanner helps organisers locate weak signal pockets and strategically deploy temporary cell signal boosters for uninterrupted communication and social media sharing for attendees.

Boosting Individual Needs:

  • Remote Workers: Working from home in areas with weak signals can be frustrating. The scanner empowers individuals to assess their signal strength and determine if a booster can enhance video conferencing quality and overall internet reliability.
  • Travel Enthusiasts: For those who venture off the beaten path, the scanner helps identify areas with weak 5G signals, allowing them to adjust travel plans or download content beforehand to avoid connectivity issues.
  • Gamers: Online gaming demands a strong and stable connection. The scanner allows gamers to pinpoint signal inconsistencies and optimise their setup for lag-free, competitive gameplay.

The Impact of Accurate 5G Measurement:

By providing precise 5G signal strength data, the Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner plays a crucial role in various industries:

  • Improved Decision-Making: Companies and people can determine which cell signal boosters suit their situation best, through proper research, and thus not exhausting so much on the wrong ones.
  • Targeted Solutions: Precise spectrum monitoring enables the air of boosters to be in the right place avoiding booster redundancy and hence overall connectivity being better.
  • Enhanced Productivity & Customer Satisfaction: The higher the cellular signals generate stronger networks resulting in the improved quality of services that businesses offer and the customers' satisfaction that is largely dictated by the mobile connectivity standards.

The Wilson Pro 5G Network Scanner is more than just a measurement tool; it's a gateway to a better-connected future. If you're interested in learning more, call the experts at 888-233-7563 or fill out the form below.


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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
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One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
Foxbat
Not likely since that place closed down.
You're no fun.😑
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Will do!