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Bruce
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No wonder Advertising Revenue is so down, these are in the thousands, for example, NBC is 4,428,000 Million, while Disney XD is 18,000.

Just imagine if they got rid of about 100 of these channels and the per sub fee along with them, combine programming on the better rated channels.

Wonder what that monthly bill would be like then?

See #1 through #153 ranked below, in thousands of average viewers (for example, ESPN averaged 1.703 million viewers; TNT had 813,000). The date range is January 1, 2024-December 11, 2024.

1NBC4,428
2CBS3,918
3ABC3,374
4Fox News Channel2,410
5Fox2,322
6ESPN1,703
7MSNBC1,261
8Univision1,035
9Telemundo949
10TNT813
11Ion802
12TBS731
13CNN704
14Hallmark Channel699
15HGTV671
16USA Network603
17Me TV602
18History Channel551
19INSP548
20Grit TV482
21Discovery Channel472
22Food Network458
23TLC439
24The CW382
25ID373
26TV Land372
27UniMas342
28GSN330
29Hallmark Mystery328
30Bravo308
31FX305
32FS1304
33Paramount Network295
34AMC291
35Lifetime288
36A&E Network286
Newsmax286
38ESPN2284
39weTV277
40Reelz258
41Oxygen255
42SYFY244
43BET242
44Bounce TV235
45Adult Swim211
46Nick-at-Nite206
47Nat Geo201
48Comedy Central191
49Ion Mystery186
50Freeform184
51Cozi TV183
52FETV181
Travel Channel181
54Sundance TV177
55MTV169
56Laff159
57Animal Planet156
Heroes & Icons156
59IFC TV155
60HLN151
61E!148
Lifetime Movie Network148
Start TV148
64FXX143
65NFL Network138
66CHARGE!135
Magnolia Network135
68Paris Extra 2133
69BBC America131
truTV131
71Motor Trend128
72CMT127
73Nickelodeon124
74The Weather Channel121
75CNBC120
76HBO Prime118
77Ion Plus116
78Great American Family114
79Disney Channel107
Paris Extra 1107
81Comet103
Nat Geo Wild103
Pop TV103
84NewsNation101
85Science99
86OWN98
87Antenna TV97
88UP92
89MLB Network90
90Fox Business Network87
VH187
92TUDN86
93Disney Junior83
GetTV83
95NBA TV81
96Big Ten Network79
97Justice Central76
98Estrella75
99Dabl73
100Telexitos69
101TV One68
102Nick Jr.67
103Hallmark Family66
104Golf Channel62
105Catchy Comedy60
Court TV60
107Smithsonian58
108Cooking Channel57
109TBD TV54
110Ovation53
111Vice52
112NickToons50
Story Television50
Tennis Channel50
115Universo49
116FX Movie Channel48
117RFD-TV47
118FYI46
119Showtime Prime41
120BET Her36
121Starz35
122American Heroes Channel34
Boomerang34
Fox Deportes34
125Destination America33
ESPNU33
127Scripps News32
128MTV230
129American Crimes28
130Galavision24
131AXS TV23
Merit Street23
TeenNick23
134Discovery Family Channel22
ESPN Deportes22
The Cowboy Channel22
137Discovery en Español21
Fox Sports 221
139Universal Kids20
140Discovery Life Channel19
Logo TV19
142Disney XD18
143Outdoor Channel16
144CLEO TV11
CNN en Español11
146Comedy.TV10
147Discovery Familia9
148Nat Geo Mundo7
149GalaNovelas5
150beIN Sport Español4
Sportsman Channel4
152beIN Sport2
153Hogar de HGTV1

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Bruce
Now Total Viewer ratings 2024, includes Live+7 (DVR)

THE MOST-WATCHED NETWORKS OF 2024 (BY TOTAL VIEWERS)

RankNETWORKVIEWERS (000)% CHANGE
1.CBS5,055+12%
2.NBC4,990+10%
3.ABC3,861-1%
4.Fox2,841-15%
5.Fox News2,470+30%
6.ESPN1,674-2%
7.MSNBC1,263+4%
8.Univision1,044-17%
9.Telemundo965+12%
10.Ion 833-16%
11.TNT815-13%
12.Hallmark Channel812-13%
13.HGTV773-18%
14.TBS738-6%
15.CNN707+20%
16.USA673-2%
17.History655-15%
18.Me TV620-2%
19.Discovery Channel577-18%
20.INSP558-21%
21.TLC542-28%
22.Food Network535-20%
23.Grit494-4%
24.The CW445-2%
25.Bravo436-24%
26.Investigation Discovery429-21%
27.Hallmark Mystery376-17%
28.TV Land374-20%
29.Unimás 351-6%
30.A&E344-20%
31.FX 343-12%
32.Paramount Network342-1%
33.Lifetime 340-23%
34.Game Show Network333-2%
35.AMC317-14%
36.Fox Sports 1 312+1%
37.We TV301-18%
38.Newsmax 294+31%
39.Reelzchannel293-13%
40.ESPN 2 286-11%
41.Oxygen281-10%
42.Syfy262-8%
43.BET261-22%
44.Bounce TV237-6%
45.Nat Geo228-24%
46.MTV225-12%
47.Adult Swim210-3%
48.Nick at Nite208-15%
49.Freeform200-21%
50.Comedy Central195-16%
51.Travel193-15%
52.Court TV Mystery186+7%
53.Cozi184-6%
Family Entertainment TV184-20%
55.Sundance180-13%
56.Heroes and Icons163-4%
57.Animal Planet160-26%
58.Laff159+5%
LMN159-17%
60.E!158-23%
61.IFC155-12%
62.HBO154-7%
63.HLN151-9%
Start TV151-21%
65.Magnolia Network147-14%
66.FXX145-29%
NFL Network145-26%
68.BBC America137-23%
Motor Trend137-26%
70.Charge!136+33%
71.Paris Extra 2134n/a
72.CMT133-21%
73.Nickelodeon131-31%
TruTV131+9%
75.Great American Family128-8%
76.Weather Channel126+6%
77.CNBC122-25%
78.Ion Plus116-11%
79.Nat Geo Wild112-29%
80.Disney 110-17%
81.Newsnation108-1%
82.OWN107-27%
83.Paris Extra 1107n/a
84.Pop TV106-12%
Up106-15%
86.Comet105+4%
87.Science101-25%
88.Antenna TV96-16%
89.VH195-38%
90.Fox Business Channel90-1%
MLB Network90+3%
92.TUDN87-22%
93.Disney Jr.84-37%
Get TV84-8%
95.NBA TV83-2%
Big Ten Network80+25%
97.Justice Central79+508%
98.TV One78-10%
99.Hallmark Family74-10%
100.Dabl73+38%
Estrella TV73-10%
102.Nick Jr.68-39%
Telexitos68+39%
104.Golf66-21%
105.Court TV64+14%
106.Smithsonian62-29%
107.Catchy Comedy60-13%
108.Ovation59-25%
Viceland59-3%
110.Cooking Channel58-31%
111.TBD TV54+80%
112.Nicktoons51-12%
RFD-TV51-6%
Story Television51+28%
Tennis51-7%
116.FX Movie Channel50-26%
117.Universo49+9%
118.Showtime48-38%
FYI48-25%
120.Starz43-25%
121.BET Her40-2%
122.American Heroes35-27%
ESPN U35-20%
124.Boomerang34-17%
Fox Deportes34-17%
126.Destination America33-20%
MTV 233-31%
Scripps News33n/a
129.American Crimes28+460%
130.Merit Street27n/a
131.AXS TV26-26%
132.Galavision25-31%
133.Teen Nick24-53%
The Cowboy Channel24-8%
135.Discovery Family Channel23-18%
ESPN Deportes23+15%
137.Discovery En Español22-33%
138.Fox Sports 221+5%
139.Discovery Life Channel20+0%
Logo20-43%
Universal Kids20-5%
142.Disney XD18-44%
143.Outdoor Channel17-23%
144.Cleo TV11-27%
CNN En Español11+38%
Comedy TV11+57%
147.Discovery Familia9-31%
148.Nat Geo Mundo6-45%
149.Galanovelas5-29%
Sportsman Channel5-29%
151.BEIN Sport Español2-33%
BEIN Sport2-33%
153.Hogar De HGTV1-50%
Accuweathern/an/a
Aztecan/an/a

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Now Total Viewer ratings 2024, includes Live+7 (DVR)

THE MOST-WATCHED NETWORKS OF 2024 (BY TOTAL VIEWERS)

RankNETWORKVIEWERS (000)% CHANGE
1.CBS5,055+12%
2.NBC4,990+10%
3.ABC3,861-1%
4.Fox2,841-15%
5.Fox News2,470+30%
6.ESPN1,674-2%
7.MSNBC1,263+4%
8.Univision1,044-17%
9.Telemundo965+12%
10.Ion 833-16%
11.TNT815-13%
12.Hallmark Channel812-13%
13.HGTV773-18%
14.TBS738-6%
15.CNN707+20%
16.USA673-2%
17.History655-15%
18.Me TV620-2%
19.Discovery Channel577-18%
20.INSP558-21%
21.TLC542-28%
22.Food Network535-20%
23.Grit494-4%
24.The CW445-2%
25.Bravo436-24%
26.Investigation Discovery429-21%
27.Hallmark Mystery376-17%
28.TV Land374-20%
29.Unimás 351-6%
30.A&E344-20%
31.FX 343-12%
32.Paramount Network342-1%
33.Lifetime 340-23%
34.Game Show Network333-2%
35.AMC317-14%
36.Fox Sports 1 312+1%
37.We TV301-18%
38.Newsmax 294+31%
39.Reelzchannel293-13%
40.ESPN 2 286-11%
41.Oxygen281-10%
42.Syfy262-8%
43.BET261-22%
44.Bounce TV237-6%
45.Nat Geo228-24%
46.MTV225-12%
47.Adult Swim210-3%
48.Nick at Nite208-15%
49.Freeform200-21%
50.Comedy Central195-16%
51.Travel193-15%
52.Court TV Mystery186+7%
53.Cozi184-6%
Family Entertainment TV184-20%
55.Sundance180-13%
56.Heroes and Icons163-4%
57.Animal Planet160-26%
58.Laff159+5%
LMN159-17%
60.E!158-23%
61.IFC155-12%
62.HBO154-7%
63.HLN151-9%
Start TV151-21%
65.Magnolia Network147-14%
66.FXX145-29%
NFL Network145-26%
68.BBC America137-23%
Motor Trend137-26%
70.Charge!136+33%
71.Paris Extra 2134n/a
72.CMT133-21%
73.Nickelodeon131-31%
TruTV131+9%
75.Great American Family128-8%
76.Weather Channel126+6%
77.CNBC122-25%
78.Ion Plus116-11%
79.Nat Geo Wild112-29%
80.Disney 110-17%
81.Newsnation108-1%
82.OWN107-27%
83.Paris Extra 1107n/a
84.Pop TV106-12%
Up106-15%
86.Comet105+4%
87.Science101-25%
88.Antenna TV96-16%
89.VH195-38%
90.Fox Business Channel90-1%
MLB Network90+3%
92.TUDN87-22%
93.Disney Jr.84-37%
Get TV84-8%
95.NBA TV83-2%
Big Ten Network80+25%
97.Justice Central79+508%
98.TV One78-10%
99.Hallmark Family74-10%
100.Dabl73+38%
Estrella TV73-10%
102.Nick Jr.68-39%
Telexitos68+39%
104.Golf66-21%
105.Court TV64+14%
106.Smithsonian62-29%
107.Catchy Comedy60-13%
108.Ovation59-25%
Viceland59-3%
110.Cooking Channel58-31%
111.TBD TV54+80%
112.Nicktoons51-12%
RFD-TV51-6%
Story Television51+28%
Tennis51-7%
116.FX Movie Channel50-26%
117.Universo49+9%
118.Showtime48-38%
FYI48-25%
120.Starz43-25%
121.BET Her40-2%
122.American Heroes35-27%
ESPN U35-20%
124.Boomerang34-17%
Fox Deportes34-17%
126.Destination America33-20%
MTV 233-31%
Scripps News33n/a
129.American Crimes28+460%
130.Merit Street27n/a
131.AXS TV26-26%
132.Galavision25-31%
133.Teen Nick24-53%
The Cowboy Channel24-8%
135.Discovery Family Channel23-18%
ESPN Deportes23+15%
137.Discovery En Español22-33%
138.Fox Sports 221+5%
139.Discovery Life Channel20+0%
Logo20-43%
Universal Kids20-5%
142.Disney XD18-44%
143.Outdoor Channel17-23%
144.Cleo TV11-27%
CNN En Español11+38%
Comedy TV11+57%
147.Discovery Familia9-31%
148.Nat Geo Mundo6-45%
149.Galanovelas5-29%
Sportsman Channel5-29%
151.BEIN Sport Español2-33%
BEIN Sport2-33%
153.Hogar De HGTV1-50%
Accuweathern/an/a
Aztecan/an/a

Sounds like you could just go back to the big 4 networks and add the content from the other lesser watched channels to them. You could even put some of them on sub channels and get rid of the rest. Then the ratings for the big 4 would go way up and we would have something different to watch with no reruns. Reruns could go to Free service like Pluto and Tubi. Seems like we are headed back to that, except the other content will just go to streaming services and there will be less of those, when all is said and done. Simply isn't enough people to watch all this stuff anymore and not enough money to afford it all either.
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dishdude
Sounds like you could just go back to the big 4 networks and add the content from the other lesser watched channels to them. You could even put some of them on sub channels and get rid of the rest. Then the ratings for the big 4 would go way up and we would have something different to watch with no reruns. Reruns could go to Free service like Pluto and Tubi. Seems like we are headed back to that, except the other content will just go to streaming services and there will be less of those, when all is said and done. Simply isn't enough people to watch all this stuff anymore and not enough money to afford it all either.

That was working but they got greedy and had to launch 5 MTVs, 4 ESPNs, 3 FXs...etc.

When I was a kid cable went from 2-36 and the quality of the content was vastly superior.
Scott Greczkowski
Imagine the drop to USA Network after they lose WWE Raw (their highest rated show) to Netflix after tonight.
Bruce
Imagine the drop to USA Network after they lose WWE Raw (their highest rated show) to Netflix after tonight.
I already posted the current drop-

2017 USA-1,662,000
2024 USA-673,000
a drop of over 59%

and 2024, they had the Olympics, prediction of dropping another 20-25%.

And it is a channel that needs to go away, when was the last time they had a new scripted TV show, back in 2017, they had a bunch.

Comcast decided that the new show, SuitsLA, which was being developed for USA, will be on NBC instead.
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Scott Greczkowski
Yes I know you posted it. And I said imagine the drop after they lose their highest rated show tonight.
MikeD-C05
That was working but they got greedy and had to launch 5 MTVs, 4 ESPNs, 3 FXs...etc.

When I was a kid cable went from 2-36 and the quality of the content was vastly superior.
Now it is mostly old reruns from network Tv. Why pay extra for reruns?
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Scott Greczkowski
Now it is mostly old reruns from network Tv. Why pay extra for reruns?
And most of them are now available from free (legal) streaming Platforms. Even live local news is all online for free. Why pay for it?
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Bruce
Now it is mostly old reruns from network Tv. Why pay extra for reruns?
Based on these numbers, many are not paying for the rerun channels.

More Households will soon be without a Paid Live TV subscription then with, sometime in 2025-

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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
K
PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 14 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 14 2026 vs Oct 07 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

2 Transponders cleared of all Streams::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 128 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D15@103cb, TPN 5

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
262​
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1449​
2​
SD mpeg4​
145​
1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
-2​
SD mpeg4​
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-1​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
40​
6​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/14/2026:
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NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles
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The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.
They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693
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WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Guide says Nascar race, I get the baseball game on two channels.
long_time_Dish
Guide says Nascar race, I get the baseball game on two channels.
Yeah, I was bummed. It was supposed to be the NASCAR race in 4K...
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
lovin my hopper 3 and my wireless joey i can roll the tv all over the house if i wanted to :oops: 🤔
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Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
sdfntx
White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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dishstaller
White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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KAB
Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
zippyfrog
That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...