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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
No wonder Advertising Revenue is so down, these are in the thousands, for example, NBC is 4,428,000 Million, while Disney XD is 18,000.

Just imagine if they got rid of about 100 of these channels and the per sub fee along with them, combine programming on the better rated channels.

Wonder what that monthly bill would be like then?

See #1 through #153 ranked below, in thousands of average viewers (for example, ESPN averaged 1.703 million viewers; TNT had 813,000). The date range is January 1, 2024-December 11, 2024.

1NBC4,428
2CBS3,918
3ABC3,374
4Fox News Channel2,410
5Fox2,322
6ESPN1,703
7MSNBC1,261
8Univision1,035
9Telemundo949
10TNT813
11Ion802
12TBS731
13CNN704
14Hallmark Channel699
15HGTV671
16USA Network603
17Me TV602
18History Channel551
19INSP548
20Grit TV482
21Discovery Channel472
22Food Network458
23TLC439
24The CW382
25ID373
26TV Land372
27UniMas342
28GSN330
29Hallmark Mystery328
30Bravo308
31FX305
32FS1304
33Paramount Network295
34AMC291
35Lifetime288
36A&E Network286
Newsmax286
38ESPN2284
39weTV277
40Reelz258
41Oxygen255
42SYFY244
43BET242
44Bounce TV235
45Adult Swim211
46Nick-at-Nite206
47Nat Geo201
48Comedy Central191
49Ion Mystery186
50Freeform184
51Cozi TV183
52FETV181
Travel Channel181
54Sundance TV177
55MTV169
56Laff159
57Animal Planet156
Heroes & Icons156
59IFC TV155
60HLN151
61E!148
Lifetime Movie Network148
Start TV148
64FXX143
65NFL Network138
66CHARGE!135
Magnolia Network135
68Paris Extra 2133
69BBC America131
truTV131
71Motor Trend128
72CMT127
73Nickelodeon124
74The Weather Channel121
75CNBC120
76HBO Prime118
77Ion Plus116
78Great American Family114
79Disney Channel107
Paris Extra 1107
81Comet103
Nat Geo Wild103
Pop TV103
84NewsNation101
85Science99
86OWN98
87Antenna TV97
88UP92
89MLB Network90
90Fox Business Network87
VH187
92TUDN86
93Disney Junior83
GetTV83
95NBA TV81
96Big Ten Network79
97Justice Central76
98Estrella75
99Dabl73
100Telexitos69
101TV One68
102Nick Jr.67
103Hallmark Family66
104Golf Channel62
105Catchy Comedy60
Court TV60
107Smithsonian58
108Cooking Channel57
109TBD TV54
110Ovation53
111Vice52
112NickToons50
Story Television50
Tennis Channel50
115Universo49
116FX Movie Channel48
117RFD-TV47
118FYI46
119Showtime Prime41
120BET Her36
121Starz35
122American Heroes Channel34
Boomerang34
Fox Deportes34
125Destination America33
ESPNU33
127Scripps News32
128MTV230
129American Crimes28
130Galavision24
131AXS TV23
Merit Street23
TeenNick23
134Discovery Family Channel22
ESPN Deportes22
The Cowboy Channel22
137Discovery en Español21
Fox Sports 221
139Universal Kids20
140Discovery Life Channel19
Logo TV19
142Disney XD18
143Outdoor Channel16
144CLEO TV11
CNN en Español11
146Comedy.TV10
147Discovery Familia9
148Nat Geo Mundo7
149GalaNovelas5
150beIN Sport Español4
Sportsman Channel4
152beIN Sport2
153Hogar de HGTV1

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Bruce
Now Total Viewer ratings 2024, includes Live+7 (DVR)

THE MOST-WATCHED NETWORKS OF 2024 (BY TOTAL VIEWERS)

RankNETWORKVIEWERS (000)% CHANGE
1.CBS5,055+12%
2.NBC4,990+10%
3.ABC3,861-1%
4.Fox2,841-15%
5.Fox News2,470+30%
6.ESPN1,674-2%
7.MSNBC1,263+4%
8.Univision1,044-17%
9.Telemundo965+12%
10.Ion 833-16%
11.TNT815-13%
12.Hallmark Channel812-13%
13.HGTV773-18%
14.TBS738-6%
15.CNN707+20%
16.USA673-2%
17.History655-15%
18.Me TV620-2%
19.Discovery Channel577-18%
20.INSP558-21%
21.TLC542-28%
22.Food Network535-20%
23.Grit494-4%
24.The CW445-2%
25.Bravo436-24%
26.Investigation Discovery429-21%
27.Hallmark Mystery376-17%
28.TV Land374-20%
29.Unimás 351-6%
30.A&E344-20%
31.FX 343-12%
32.Paramount Network342-1%
33.Lifetime 340-23%
34.Game Show Network333-2%
35.AMC317-14%
36.Fox Sports 1 312+1%
37.We TV301-18%
38.Newsmax 294+31%
39.Reelzchannel293-13%
40.ESPN 2 286-11%
41.Oxygen281-10%
42.Syfy262-8%
43.BET261-22%
44.Bounce TV237-6%
45.Nat Geo228-24%
46.MTV225-12%
47.Adult Swim210-3%
48.Nick at Nite208-15%
49.Freeform200-21%
50.Comedy Central195-16%
51.Travel193-15%
52.Court TV Mystery186+7%
53.Cozi184-6%
Family Entertainment TV184-20%
55.Sundance180-13%
56.Heroes and Icons163-4%
57.Animal Planet160-26%
58.Laff159+5%
LMN159-17%
60.E!158-23%
61.IFC155-12%
62.HBO154-7%
63.HLN151-9%
Start TV151-21%
65.Magnolia Network147-14%
66.FXX145-29%
NFL Network145-26%
68.BBC America137-23%
Motor Trend137-26%
70.Charge!136+33%
71.Paris Extra 2134n/a
72.CMT133-21%
73.Nickelodeon131-31%
TruTV131+9%
75.Great American Family128-8%
76.Weather Channel126+6%
77.CNBC122-25%
78.Ion Plus116-11%
79.Nat Geo Wild112-29%
80.Disney 110-17%
81.Newsnation108-1%
82.OWN107-27%
83.Paris Extra 1107n/a
84.Pop TV106-12%
Up106-15%
86.Comet105+4%
87.Science101-25%
88.Antenna TV96-16%
89.VH195-38%
90.Fox Business Channel90-1%
MLB Network90+3%
92.TUDN87-22%
93.Disney Jr.84-37%
Get TV84-8%
95.NBA TV83-2%
Big Ten Network80+25%
97.Justice Central79+508%
98.TV One78-10%
99.Hallmark Family74-10%
100.Dabl73+38%
Estrella TV73-10%
102.Nick Jr.68-39%
Telexitos68+39%
104.Golf66-21%
105.Court TV64+14%
106.Smithsonian62-29%
107.Catchy Comedy60-13%
108.Ovation59-25%
Viceland59-3%
110.Cooking Channel58-31%
111.TBD TV54+80%
112.Nicktoons51-12%
RFD-TV51-6%
Story Television51+28%
Tennis51-7%
116.FX Movie Channel50-26%
117.Universo49+9%
118.Showtime48-38%
FYI48-25%
120.Starz43-25%
121.BET Her40-2%
122.American Heroes35-27%
ESPN U35-20%
124.Boomerang34-17%
Fox Deportes34-17%
126.Destination America33-20%
MTV 233-31%
Scripps News33n/a
129.American Crimes28+460%
130.Merit Street27n/a
131.AXS TV26-26%
132.Galavision25-31%
133.Teen Nick24-53%
The Cowboy Channel24-8%
135.Discovery Family Channel23-18%
ESPN Deportes23+15%
137.Discovery En Español22-33%
138.Fox Sports 221+5%
139.Discovery Life Channel20+0%
Logo20-43%
Universal Kids20-5%
142.Disney XD18-44%
143.Outdoor Channel17-23%
144.Cleo TV11-27%
CNN En Español11+38%
Comedy TV11+57%
147.Discovery Familia9-31%
148.Nat Geo Mundo6-45%
149.Galanovelas5-29%
Sportsman Channel5-29%
151.BEIN Sport Español2-33%
BEIN Sport2-33%
153.Hogar De HGTV1-50%
Accuweathern/an/a
Aztecan/an/a

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Now Total Viewer ratings 2024, includes Live+7 (DVR)

THE MOST-WATCHED NETWORKS OF 2024 (BY TOTAL VIEWERS)

RankNETWORKVIEWERS (000)% CHANGE
1.CBS5,055+12%
2.NBC4,990+10%
3.ABC3,861-1%
4.Fox2,841-15%
5.Fox News2,470+30%
6.ESPN1,674-2%
7.MSNBC1,263+4%
8.Univision1,044-17%
9.Telemundo965+12%
10.Ion 833-16%
11.TNT815-13%
12.Hallmark Channel812-13%
13.HGTV773-18%
14.TBS738-6%
15.CNN707+20%
16.USA673-2%
17.History655-15%
18.Me TV620-2%
19.Discovery Channel577-18%
20.INSP558-21%
21.TLC542-28%
22.Food Network535-20%
23.Grit494-4%
24.The CW445-2%
25.Bravo436-24%
26.Investigation Discovery429-21%
27.Hallmark Mystery376-17%
28.TV Land374-20%
29.Unimás 351-6%
30.A&E344-20%
31.FX 343-12%
32.Paramount Network342-1%
33.Lifetime 340-23%
34.Game Show Network333-2%
35.AMC317-14%
36.Fox Sports 1 312+1%
37.We TV301-18%
38.Newsmax 294+31%
39.Reelzchannel293-13%
40.ESPN 2 286-11%
41.Oxygen281-10%
42.Syfy262-8%
43.BET261-22%
44.Bounce TV237-6%
45.Nat Geo228-24%
46.MTV225-12%
47.Adult Swim210-3%
48.Nick at Nite208-15%
49.Freeform200-21%
50.Comedy Central195-16%
51.Travel193-15%
52.Court TV Mystery186+7%
53.Cozi184-6%
Family Entertainment TV184-20%
55.Sundance180-13%
56.Heroes and Icons163-4%
57.Animal Planet160-26%
58.Laff159+5%
LMN159-17%
60.E!158-23%
61.IFC155-12%
62.HBO154-7%
63.HLN151-9%
Start TV151-21%
65.Magnolia Network147-14%
66.FXX145-29%
NFL Network145-26%
68.BBC America137-23%
Motor Trend137-26%
70.Charge!136+33%
71.Paris Extra 2134n/a
72.CMT133-21%
73.Nickelodeon131-31%
TruTV131+9%
75.Great American Family128-8%
76.Weather Channel126+6%
77.CNBC122-25%
78.Ion Plus116-11%
79.Nat Geo Wild112-29%
80.Disney 110-17%
81.Newsnation108-1%
82.OWN107-27%
83.Paris Extra 1107n/a
84.Pop TV106-12%
Up106-15%
86.Comet105+4%
87.Science101-25%
88.Antenna TV96-16%
89.VH195-38%
90.Fox Business Channel90-1%
MLB Network90+3%
92.TUDN87-22%
93.Disney Jr.84-37%
Get TV84-8%
95.NBA TV83-2%
Big Ten Network80+25%
97.Justice Central79+508%
98.TV One78-10%
99.Hallmark Family74-10%
100.Dabl73+38%
Estrella TV73-10%
102.Nick Jr.68-39%
Telexitos68+39%
104.Golf66-21%
105.Court TV64+14%
106.Smithsonian62-29%
107.Catchy Comedy60-13%
108.Ovation59-25%
Viceland59-3%
110.Cooking Channel58-31%
111.TBD TV54+80%
112.Nicktoons51-12%
RFD-TV51-6%
Story Television51+28%
Tennis51-7%
116.FX Movie Channel50-26%
117.Universo49+9%
118.Showtime48-38%
FYI48-25%
120.Starz43-25%
121.BET Her40-2%
122.American Heroes35-27%
ESPN U35-20%
124.Boomerang34-17%
Fox Deportes34-17%
126.Destination America33-20%
MTV 233-31%
Scripps News33n/a
129.American Crimes28+460%
130.Merit Street27n/a
131.AXS TV26-26%
132.Galavision25-31%
133.Teen Nick24-53%
The Cowboy Channel24-8%
135.Discovery Family Channel23-18%
ESPN Deportes23+15%
137.Discovery En Español22-33%
138.Fox Sports 221+5%
139.Discovery Life Channel20+0%
Logo20-43%
Universal Kids20-5%
142.Disney XD18-44%
143.Outdoor Channel17-23%
144.Cleo TV11-27%
CNN En Español11+38%
Comedy TV11+57%
147.Discovery Familia9-31%
148.Nat Geo Mundo6-45%
149.Galanovelas5-29%
Sportsman Channel5-29%
151.BEIN Sport Español2-33%
BEIN Sport2-33%
153.Hogar De HGTV1-50%
Accuweathern/an/a
Aztecan/an/a

Sounds like you could just go back to the big 4 networks and add the content from the other lesser watched channels to them. You could even put some of them on sub channels and get rid of the rest. Then the ratings for the big 4 would go way up and we would have something different to watch with no reruns. Reruns could go to Free service like Pluto and Tubi. Seems like we are headed back to that, except the other content will just go to streaming services and there will be less of those, when all is said and done. Simply isn't enough people to watch all this stuff anymore and not enough money to afford it all either.
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Sounds like you could just go back to the big 4 networks and add the content from the other lesser watched channels to them. You could even put some of them on sub channels and get rid of the rest. Then the ratings for the big 4 would go way up and we would have something different to watch with no reruns. Reruns could go to Free service like Pluto and Tubi. Seems like we are headed back to that, except the other content will just go to streaming services and there will be less of those, when all is said and done. Simply isn't enough people to watch all this stuff anymore and not enough money to afford it all either.

That was working but they got greedy and had to launch 5 MTVs, 4 ESPNs, 3 FXs...etc.

When I was a kid cable went from 2-36 and the quality of the content was vastly superior.
Scott Greczkowski
Imagine the drop to USA Network after they lose WWE Raw (their highest rated show) to Netflix after tonight.
Bruce
Imagine the drop to USA Network after they lose WWE Raw (their highest rated show) to Netflix after tonight.
I already posted the current drop-

2017 USA-1,662,000
2024 USA-673,000
a drop of over 59%

and 2024, they had the Olympics, prediction of dropping another 20-25%.

And it is a channel that needs to go away, when was the last time they had a new scripted TV show, back in 2017, they had a bunch.

Comcast decided that the new show, SuitsLA, which was being developed for USA, will be on NBC instead.
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Scott Greczkowski
Yes I know you posted it. And I said imagine the drop after they lose their highest rated show tonight.
MikeD-C05
That was working but they got greedy and had to launch 5 MTVs, 4 ESPNs, 3 FXs...etc.

When I was a kid cable went from 2-36 and the quality of the content was vastly superior.
Now it is mostly old reruns from network Tv. Why pay extra for reruns?
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Scott Greczkowski
Now it is mostly old reruns from network Tv. Why pay extra for reruns?
And most of them are now available from free (legal) streaming Platforms. Even live local news is all online for free. Why pay for it?
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Bruce
Now it is mostly old reruns from network Tv. Why pay extra for reruns?
Based on these numbers, many are not paying for the rerun channels.

More Households will soon be without a Paid Live TV subscription then with, sometime in 2025-

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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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M
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
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probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.
N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thanks for your understanding. :)
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Foxbat
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
dweber
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
Hooray!
Peter Parker
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Do you mean the safari browser?
BlackHitachi
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
dfergie
Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
Peter Parker
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

Screenshot 2026-06-10 at 6.46.20 PM.webp
Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

View attachment 191721
Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
R
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.


I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
A dandilion by any other name.
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