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comfortably_numb
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Would like to purchase a switch to select between 3 different FTA receivers. Need something with good isolation. A simple A/B/C switch seems to have "leakage." Any suggestions?
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Years ago, I tried to connect two receivers to a common dish. I did something wrong and blew out my $5 Chinese receiver. No great financial loss but I was so proud of finding locally a $5 receiver that worked well until I blew it up. To this day, I prefer to physically change cables to accomplish using different dishes with multiple receivers.
cyberham
So this handles one LNB. You have other LNBs and a C-band dish almost installed. How will you incorporate additional LNBs to this multi-receiver configuration?
comfortably_numb
So this handles one LNB. You have other LNBs and a C-band dish almost installed. How will you incorporate additional LNBs to this multi-receiver configuration?

The LNB on the 90cm dish will stay separate. It has its own dedicated line.

Might do the same for C-band, but if a diseqc switch is incorporated, I believe it goes in-line before the 4-way switch.
cyberham
... but if a diseqc switch is incorporated, I believe it goes in-line before the 4-way switch.
This is how I could do for my C-band and Ku-band dishes. Normally you put a diseqc switch after the motor so the motor current doesn't go through the switch. But in this case, the diseqc switch would be in front of the Ku motor and motor current would flow through the diseqc switch.
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But in this case, the diseqc switch would be in front of the Ku motor and motor current would flow through the diseqc switch.

I don't know which "this case" you mean? A setup like receivers - splitter - motor - diseqcswitch - LNBs would be possible, I guess.
But you seem to mean something different?

Apart from that, you can always create a "parallel" motor path, parallel to a diseqc switch + LNBs path. I have that for years, now. Though then you'd have to find the right splitter for that setup; not easy.

Greetz,
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To this day, I prefer to physically change cables to accomplish using different dishes with multiple receivers.

AND make sure the receivers are powered down before making changes. You don't want to see that dreaded spark and then poof. ;)
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I guess this would work:

4 receivers - splitter - Ku motor - diseqcswitch -
Ku LNB(diseqcswitch port 1)
C LNB (diseqcswitch port 2)

The Ku motor will only move when the Master receiver is first used. One must first always use the Master to get the polarization signal correct for the Slave receivers. For blind scans, you first scan on one polarity then scan again on the other polarity switching back and forth between Master and Slaves.
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The Ku motor will only move when the Master receiver is first used.

Or, when you don't use the 4 receivers simultaneously, use a splitter with 4 diodes (power pass one way), and all 4 receivers can be "master" at their own time (also over the motor).
Or, use three 2/1 priority switches (cascaded), and create a master - 2nd - 3rd - slave order for which receiver can have control in specific situations.
Do the receivers have a loop-through port? Then no splitter is needed. (I don't remember if this might also work, when the loopthrough receiver is cut off from power?)

Greetz,
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Then there's the DPP-44 dilemma. Conceptual probably. Running multiple FTA receivers all at once can be a pickle.
If anyone has three single or twin tuner E2 receivers and wishes to try an experiment.
Use client mode on the remote receivers. See if setting up the master receiver right and put it in standby mode (important). Then see if the client receivers are able to tune an entire satellite independently.
If the master is not in standby. Then you will only be able to view the currently tuned transponder the master is currently on with the client.
It works great with my mio4k as master and Zgemma H7 as client in another room through wifi.

The Europeans are using unicable stuff all over the place. But there goes blindscan again.
A bit of house keeping on one that does scan and adding those new tp's to the satellite.xml and distributing to the other receivers over FTP would fix that. Or simply setting up a channel editor and writing the channels to the other receivers.

If a splitter works as kind of a kludge. And if the wifey in the living room doesn't mind not being able to watch her shows while you hog the signal in the other room. Well cool!
That would drive me knutz and finding a fix would make for brain stew.
I'm pretty sure life would be easier and a better solution could be had by just running another coax or two, perhaps a cable for DC out to the dish.
So far for me. One coax for lnbf signals and one for DC. To get both C & KU I would need another run of coax to move the multiswitch inside.
Once you realize that voltage controlled polarity lnbf's obviously cant be controlled by two voltage levels on a coax.
Higher always wins. And the possibility of multiple 22 kHz signals. Which diseqc signals are multiplexed on.
There can be only one winner on a single run of coax for the standard non-unicable system. And that winner is the receiver you're currently using.

Awhile back armed with a pack of DC blocking F connectors and a DPP-44 within my reach.
A lot of thinking was going on. I already knew that DN multi lnbf's could be power inserted through port 1.
Doing that kept me from frying the tuners in my chinabox receivers at the time. And fry they did! A single didn't hurt them. A twin, hot hot. A triple? *poof*.

Then remembering a post from several years got the gears spinning. Can the DPP-44 use standard diseqc commands? And if backfeeding 20+ volts to a receiver will kill it. Block the DC and pass diseqc.
Gears!

From terryl years ago:

The DC power inserters used for the DPP44 switch have been found to be non compatible with most FTA receivers, this due to the internal workings of these devices and the loads they put on the internal tuners in the FTA receiver.

The Dish OEM receiver detects this power inserter (if needed) and adjusts for it, the standard FTA receiver dose not, it does not have the software do do so.

In most cases the inserter may look like it it is working fine with the FTA receiver, however over time there could be some sort of internal damage to the FTA receiver.

Remeber these power inseters were designed to be used with Dish or Bell OEM receivers, they (Dish or Bell) don't care what happens to a different type of receiver if used with their equipment, it was designed to be used with their stuff only.

The DPP44 switch when fully utilized (4 DP type LNBs attached and up to 4 receivers attached) needs at least 1 amp at 20 volts DC to run right, the DP power inserter will do this.

So the best and safest way to run a DPP 44 switch with it's DC power inserter is to use a second coax from the DP power inserter out to the #1 port on the DPP44 switch, and do not run a receiver off the receiver port on the power inserter.

When the DPP44 switch is powered externaly by it's supplied power inserter it will act just like any normal Diseqc switch, Receiver ports on the switch will run any normal FTA receiver.

However the LNB input ports on the DPP 44 switch will only work with DP or DPP type LNB's, they will not work too good on standard or legacy LNB's, only Dish or Bell LNB's, this because the DPP44 switch does not use +13 and +18 volt switching to go between the "H" and "V" transponders, it supply's a constant DC voltage (about 20 volts DC) to run the LNB's.


The #2, #3 and #4 receiver ports on the DPP44 switch will not draw DC power from an attached receiver when the DC power inserter is used, so it is best to use these ports for an attached FTA receiver.
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

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Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

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No Kroger's near me. I live in the heart of Walmart land. The only option besides Walmart is Harp's.
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I live in the heart of Walmart land.
My deepest condolences.
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My deepest condolences.
Surprisingly I moved here from the Gulf Coast due to the heat. But it has been hotter here due to the heat domes than it did down there.
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make homemade dog food to :)
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.