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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Now I know why this board is closed to hackers, crackers, pirates, stealers, etc. :mad:

I thought that maybe I could buy some of my FTA equipment locally, save on shipping, and possibly get an even bigger dish than the 1.0 meter I was planning on, so I called around to some places in the yellow pages. Here is what I found:

1. Lots of places advertised as satellite retailers but only sold Dish/DirectTV and had no clue about FTA equipment or where to get it.

2. There was one place that sold only BUDS (and they were pretty nice). I could hear the man laugh in the back groud when I asked if they had a anything smaller than 6'-- he said something like "not if you want to get anything good." He was being funny.

And then....

3. There were the pirates. I called several places that, when I asked about FTA, they hinted that maybe they had "really good" dish equipment...Of course, I found a place that sold viewsats and fortecs--and then was really sort of excited. Then, I asked if they had a 1m or 1.2m dish and I was told that I only needed a Dish 500 "for what most people want to get." To which I promptly disagreed, and explained to them that this would only get me GOL and NASA, etc. and anything else was illegal. The guy sounded amazed :shocked when I explained about the Lyngsat list and then they quickly got off the phone with me becuase they knew I wasn't into the same "hobby" as they were.

Aghh! I had the same experience when I first started to read about FTA. All I could find was illegal crap talk. This is really frustrating. I am really happy that I found this board.

I read once that us legal people have sometimes gotten burned (prosicuted) from buying our FTA euipment from places that also engage in dirty dealings. I tried to find information on this, but couldn't. Is this true? Should I be worried about who I buy from, even though my intentions and integrity are rock solid? :confused:
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Anole
lots of legit FTA

Well, the truth is, with your 30" dish shop, and mine with 30 inch dishes, they really were catering to the legit (pick your nationality) local folks who are watching real FTA.
Just not the wide variety of FTA this site supports.
And quite honestly, those users don't need a motor.
I see lots of 30" dishes on houses around the area, and most are in ethnic communities.
(we have many different nationalities)

The comments further up the thread where the satellite salesmen were only offering 20" dishes represented the pirates.
I haven't actually run across any of those.
DiscoLoveGrapes
Anole said:
Well, the truth is, with your 30" dish shop, and mine with 30 inch dishes, they really were catering to the legit (pick your nationality) local folks who are watching real FTA.
Just not the wide variety of FTA this site supports.
And quite honestly, those users don't need a motor.
I see lots of 30" dishes on houses around the area, and most are in ethnic communities.
(we have many different nationalities)

The comments further up the thread where the satellite salesmen were only offering 20" dishes represented the pirates.
I haven't actually run across any of those.

I know what you're saying, it's just interesting how people interpret what you are saying when you say "unscramlbed" or "Free To Air" satellite.

-I'm looking for FTA equipment
"Oooh, we only carry legit stuff here."
-No, legal, unscrambled satellite equipment
"Okay, what nationality are you?"
-Actually, I'm from here in the States
"Then you want the religious channels, right?"

It's like explaining why I'd listen to shortwave in years past. Radio Shack employees had no idea why I couldn't just buy a $30 analong receiver they carried while big box stores just stared at me. With FTA, it feels the same. They either don't know what you're doing, or think you're doing something illegal.
mk279
TiminMb said:
Our local Buy and Sell paper is full of ads for N2 FTA systems. So is a local online ad service. A local computer place that puts out a flyer in the newspaper is now advertising Pansats, and other equipment. When I called them and asked them what the largest dish was they sold, they told me 60 cm. It seems clear to me who their customers are.

"Panset" ................ big difference. These guys have no idea what they are selling or why. They got a deal on some bad clones and figured they would try to make a few dollars. These guys are all computer geeks and are clueless when it comes to the satellite industry. In this case I wouldn't lump them in with the rest.
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Reminds me of other things back in the day. I had friends before that saw electronics saying "Pan - O - Sonic" then there was a pirated movie on video tape with extreamly cheap paper sleeves...they watched it only to see peoples heads in the front row, a kid crying and then some odd flashlight getting closer :rolleyes:

I think some will continue to associate satellites with some rural communities (say cband in the 70's) to which I'd reply with "Do you really think it's logically to wire the WHOLE world via cable?"

I've even gone to work with a catalog from Skyvision catalog and people think that material is pirated! Some of them think that somehow cable co's are directly connected by wire to all of the providers. They don't understand that they get the feeds from the satellites etc.

Also it seems that for some anything that requires more maintence than just turning a single knob or pressing "on" is too much work :p
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mk279 said:
"Panset" ................ big difference. These guys have no idea what they are selling or why. They got a deal on some bad clones and figured they would try to make a few dollars. These guys are all computer geeks and are clueless when it comes to the satellite industry. In this case I wouldn't lump them in with the rest.

You were right. They were Pan-sets. WTHeck :confused: Bet they only sell circular polarity LNB's as well.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Jimbo
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...
Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
harshness
Walmart isn't the only one ...
I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery
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Where's My Thing? - Rush
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I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith
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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Foxbat
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Bobby
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

IMG_0607.webp
Scott Greczkowski
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
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I don't get my hopes up for anything with Travolta these days.