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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

HD-DVR Splitter

With only one satellite cable feeding into my HD-DVR receiver, I am fed up having to actually watch the program I want to record. I want the flexibility to record one program while watching another.

Can I just have the satellite cable go into a splitter before going into the receiver and have two short cables feed into both satellite inputs?

If this is possible, it seems relatively simple to do, but is there anything in particular I need to make sure I do and is there a particular make/model splitter that I should use?

Thank you.
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LonghornXP said:
Well my wall fish was going into the attic and dropping the cable down. He had a part of my wall drilled beforehand so all he had todo was exit the attic and put his finger in the hole and pull the sucker out. This took a matter of minutes and most of the time spent was getting from the attic back to the room. This wasn't complex at all.
Now when Verizon had to install the ethernet jack and replace all my phone jacks (phone jacks just weren't any good for some reason) for my FIOS internet installation I had to pay about 800 bucks in both cables and installation charges. But keep in mind that my house wasn't easy. They had to run fiber over a mile underground from the start of my driveway to the back of my house where the ONT goes and that just isn't a free install. Now all of my phone jacks were upstairs and required a lot of wall fishing and I mean a lot. The three phone jacks took almost three hours to replace with four techs and they weren't lazy that is for sure. The ethernet jack took almost two hours as I wanted this jack in a certian spot. I chose to pay for this because they would install it for free in anothe room and give me a wireless router but I couldn't have it this way.
In simple terms my installer took about 18-20 hours spread out over two days not counting the almost two days it took to run the fiber the mile underground from my street curb to my house. This was a very big job. Now I was only charged about 450 bucks for everything which is quite fair by the way for what was done as much of it was at my request. The rest was paid out in tips as they spent so much time and actually skipped lunch.
With all that said I know that some jobs will cost an extra 100 or more bucks but these techs at least in this area are known for ripping people off. If the customer is over 60 years old that customer should just bend over and take it all at once. They are that bad because the companies in this area are so frickin cheap on everything. But that is Florida for ya.
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longhorn ,the price he tried to charge for one wall fish was outrageous. ill give you that. i have three contracts in place , one is MSP. in all three a wall fish is $ 75.00 per wall fish. and he got in an attic for free?? nope $30.00 and both are paid CASH, i do give a reciept. no stopped checks for this old tech. cash is king.
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LonghornXP said:
On a more serious note this is something that satellite companies need to figure out because as more and more customers go the DVR (aka dual tuner) route we will start to have more ticked off customers about that whole wall fish crap if you catch my drift. I don't mind paying the guy 20 bucks for the wall fish but I had one installer that tried to get me for 175 bucks for a wall fish.
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I hear you there, a friend of mine had an installation done and it looked like hell. This guy had a big drill and just ran through the block wall into the house. Good thing he never hit any electrical or water lines. Then when he got into the house he ran the cables under carpets, around door casings and along baseboards. He cracked the door and window casings where he tacked the coaxial cable to them. He was told that was the only type installation they did. Two days later the two of us pulled out all the wiring from the installation and ran everything in the walls.

Then, when I moved here, I had an installation scheduled. The installer told me he wasn't allowed to do wall fishes. Just drill straight through the outside wall into the house. I instantly had a flash back of my friend's butcher job installation. I told him to leave the wire and let me run the lines and I will leave the ends at the dish and wall boxes for him. He agreed and came back the next day. That worked good, he was happy because I made his job easier and I was happy because everything was in the walls. But, I used diplexers and now with the new MPG4 receivers they can't be used, so last weekend I reran all the wiring again, so when they come to do my MPG4 install all the coaxial wire will be in place.

I would use BHN, but they refuse to put Fox Sports Florida on their system, so I will stick with satellite.
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JamesD said:
A fish that lives in the wall. Eats insulation.
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and craps sawdust:)

and costs $75.00:devil:
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HCI
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Some companys charge for wallfishes and some do refuse to do them. Alot of jobs are done by drilling from the outside in. I am not a fan of it if I have to run wires around a house. I will do it however if the TV or computer is on an outside wall and the dish is going to be right above the unit. If it is on the other side of the house on an outside wall I will run the wire in the attic and out above the unit from the outside.

I will normally do a inside wallfish for free, You dont want my price for an outside wall fish.:D
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Late last year, I did the installation of two, customer-owned DirecTV HDTV recorders into a rack which required exceptional wiring, to say he least. I charged $850 for that installation If you subtract the retail price for the two destackers, the 5x4 multiswitch and two high frequency splitters, I charged maybe around $500 to $550 for the labor.

Two years ago, someone wanted a receiver on the kitchen counter of their $2 million dollar condo with no wiring showing. I charged about $600 to fish that wire. If they could have found someone to do it for less, I'm sure they would have. I didn't even make any money at that price, because it roughly reflected my standard hourly labor rate, but the job didn't include any markup on components.

A lot of residential customers have been spoiled by the DBS providers "single price" basic installations. They may not realize how labor intensive and risky fishing coaxes is. Thirty years ago, the telephone company fished all of its post-wiring and could do so because it was a regulated monopoly and just passed all unexpected costs through to all the customers.

When someone quotes a flat price to fish a wire in a wall, how much money will the customer pay him if the fish is unsuccessful? Probably nothing. So if the customer demands a firm price quoted in advance, the installer can quote him any price that he feels will make it worth incurring the risks that the job will take longer than expected or that he will occasionally wind up failing and not getting paid at all.

LonhornXP thinks he was getting screwed by DirecTV or the installer but he wasn't. The DirecTV employee who took his order was not authorized to include a fished wire in that installation and, last I knew, had been instructed to tell him the each receiver wire could include just one wall penetration.

I was not aware that DirecTV now had a rule against some classes of its installers doing extra wiring jobs on the side, but that probably is because there are certain "thankless jobs" like wall fishing where too many customers will believe they got screwed and so DirecTV doesn't want in any way to be associated with such jobs. If the installer got fired because of the complaint by the customer, he has my sympathies because he wasn't screwing anyone. LonghornXP could have either settled for the single wall penetration or cancelled the entire job as not do-able.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

We're less than 4 weeks away from Voyager 1 reaching a distance of one light day from Earth

I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Devil in Her Heart - The Beatles
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Take Me To Heart - Quarterflash
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Take Me To The River - Talking Heads
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Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan
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TAKE On ME-A-Ha
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Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
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Foxbat said:
I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
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Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.👍🏻
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!
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No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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It's on Prime.
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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.
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Ah, ok, thanks!
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The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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jcrandall
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Channels on DIRECTV Satellite and not on Stream/Internet

So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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Well, this is awkward. Today the Miami Heat announced that their games in West Palm Beach this season will be aired on WTCN Channel 43, the Sinclair independent... and the station which DTV Stream downgraded from HD to SD a few weeks ago. Makes you wonder if the Heat is aware of this.

I did find the WTCN Chief Engineer (Bill Macbeth) and he said he knew nothing of what DTV Stream had done. Will look into it and get back to me.
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One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
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One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
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WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls
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Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA no working after Update

My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Briant73 said:
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
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In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
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Jim5506
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brittanygarden said:
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
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I have the dual tuner OTA adapter currently connected, but I have 2 of the single tuner OTA adapters that I can quickly connect - neither is seen by my H3.
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JSheridan
JSheridan
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Years down the road
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Years down the road
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Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
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Mister B
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renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
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I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
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zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
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CONTRACTS!
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What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?
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At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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telstar_1 said:
At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
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Personally, I would HATE to see a SD Channel at this point.
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Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
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Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
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You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
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harshness
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Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
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Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
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What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
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$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
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What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
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22g per serving.
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Bobby said:
22g per serving.
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How much is a serving?
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How much is a serving?
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2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
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Juan said:
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
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22g per serving.
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Thats about the same as the Bryers I get, I just have smaller portions.
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2/3rds of a cup or 9 servings per container.
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$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg
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Bobby said:
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates
  • 1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
  • 1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).
The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:
  • The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
  • The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).
Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.
  • The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
  • The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.
Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.
  • By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
  • When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.
Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:
  • The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
  • The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).
What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.
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Foursquare’s Hidden Location Data Became a Game #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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