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For quite a while I have been thinking and reporting that the Dish Network ViP was nothing more then a 942 with a new MPEG4 decoder chip under the hood.
Boy was I wrong.
For months many were calling the 622 the 962, I was surprised when I heard the name was changed to the 622. It appears the name was changed at last minute as on the main circuit board it is called the 962. More on that later.
What appears to look much like a 942 and operates basically the same as the 942, this is DEFINITELY not a 942. Something has changed under the hood and it's not just the MPEG4 decoder. One of the first things you notice when you use the 942 is how FAST it is, press a button on the remote and instantly it appears on the screen. Even things like OpenTV (Dish Home) open in under 5 seconds when it use to take 20 to 30 seconds for it to open on the 942. But the speed was not the only surprise I found, again more on that later.
I was surprised when I took the 622 out of the box to find no HDMI / DVI cable nor any component cable, as some have reported getting these cables with the 211/411's.
Hookup of the 622 took me less the 4 minutes, I unhooked all the wires from my 942 and plugged them into the matching slots on the 622. The layout of items on the rear of the 622 is a little different then the 942. I almost plugged my over the air antenna cable into the space where you are supposed to plug in the UHF antenna for the remote control.
Upon plugging in the 622, I heard something I never heard before on my 942 and that was the vacuum like sound of a variable speed fan under the hood of the 622. After a few second of it's whir the nose went away. The receiver rebooted then came on again.
The first sign of life we saw after the 622 booted the second time was a Point Dish Screen. Here is what we saw, in order of it actually happening.
Next up we did a Check Switch...
The 622 comes set in Dual Mode by Default. So when you try running a check switch you get the following warning.
We say yes and we are on our way!
Ok Check switch is done and here is what it found...
Everything looks good!
From the Point Dish screen you will notice there is an option for Modulator which will also you to change the settings to the on board modulators. Unlike the 942 you can output to two separate RF channels (1 for TV 1 and the second for TV2!)
Once you have got signal and try to exit out you are asked if you are sure you are all set with this screen below.
Yes we are sure, so we select Yes and we move on the following screen...
Once it find the satellite signal the initial software download takes place!
When the software download is complete you are warned not to unplug the receiver.
After this is done the receiver turns off and you hear the vacuum sound roars again from the 622. Next up comes a screen which I hope I never see again. It almost appears though that the Dish Engineers have wrote a way for the 622 to fix itself if data gets corrupted, unfortunately it does it by formatting your hard drive and wiping out all programs you have stored on your 622. Again I hope I never see this screen on my 622 again.
I click ok and we see our first video from the 942...
Errr no we don't instead we get a black screen which looks like this...
I thought something was wrong... luckily I got a phone call while I was scratching my head and while I was on the call video finally came on.
Before activating the unit I decided to look around and see what I could do with the unit. I pressed the guide button, and noticed that all the new "MPEG4" channels were listed in the guide (I use the term MPEG4 lightly since the new channels are not MPEG4... but thats another topic altogether.)
After cruising through the guide for a bit I decided to go through the menus (again this is before I activated the unit) the first thing I did was I pressed the DVR button on the remote which took me to another screen which was a lot different than it was on the 942.
You will notice that there is are new options 1 for your recordings and the second for Movies and More! Yes the 622 had Dish Networks "dish on demand" feature, a feature missing from the 942.
When you look at your recordings screen with nothing recordered here are the stats show. Total HD recording time is 30 hours, and SD recording time is 300 hours.
If you select the Movies and More option from the menu an OpenTV application is loaded and here is what you see.
Now the movies they list are not on your hard drive yet, they will be downloaded when your receiver is powered off.
At the time I did this report only 4 OLD movies were available, I am sure after the unit downloads stuff more there will be more movies available.
Because this loaded up an OpenTV application opened I wanted to check if the 622 supported other OpenTV applications so I went into the guide and found the following channels in GREEN in the menu.
We selected OK and it loaded up the Dish Network customer support application where I could order these channels (kind of a neat trick considering I have not activated the receiver yet)
I then exited this application and then went into DishHome by pressing the Dish Icon on the remote (Note they changed the Dish logo on the remote to the new logo)
I was greeted with the following screen.
What I found neat about this was this was the first time I have seen the Dish Home Screen blocking channels the receiver was not authorized before. I may be wrong but this is the only receiver I have seen do this.
The programs which ran on the DishHome screen were exactly the same ones found on the 942, and it was missing things like the games, karaoke and many of the news features which are found on other receivers.
Leaving DishHome for now, lets press the menu button on the remote. Here is what you see...
You will notice there is a DISH on Demand listing in the menu that the 942 does not have.
Most of the menus are the same but here are a few that are not (and there are a couple of pleasant surprises found in these menus!) here are some of the menus that were different in the 622.
The Search Menu has been totally redone making it easier then ever to find your favorite shows...
Select the Installation Option and you will notice a few new items...
In this menu the first change I want to point out is this one which for some reason I really like, The System Info screen. Now besides telling you your unit ID and smart card number you actually see SYSTEM INFORMATION! Everything you want to know about your setup can be found here (well almost everything!) When you first load it the screen takes a few minutes to fill up with information as it is checking out your setup.
When it is done the status bar changes to a diagnosis of your system. It checks your equipment and checks the satellite signals on all the satellites you can receive and gives you a report so you can easily troubleshoot your system.
Another setting found under the installation setup menu is this one which is not found on the 942, the ability to turn on or off "enhancements." The enhancements are these little popups you will see with a 622, such as "Press Select NOW to order Showtime!" this menu lets you turn this feature off or on.
Another new feature found in the install menu is TV1 Audio Sync. This is a new feature in the 622 that many 942 owners would love to have!
We will continue our review in the next message below.
Boy was I wrong.
For months many were calling the 622 the 962, I was surprised when I heard the name was changed to the 622. It appears the name was changed at last minute as on the main circuit board it is called the 962. More on that later.
What appears to look much like a 942 and operates basically the same as the 942, this is DEFINITELY not a 942. Something has changed under the hood and it's not just the MPEG4 decoder. One of the first things you notice when you use the 942 is how FAST it is, press a button on the remote and instantly it appears on the screen. Even things like OpenTV (Dish Home) open in under 5 seconds when it use to take 20 to 30 seconds for it to open on the 942. But the speed was not the only surprise I found, again more on that later.
I was surprised when I took the 622 out of the box to find no HDMI / DVI cable nor any component cable, as some have reported getting these cables with the 211/411's.
Hookup of the 622 took me less the 4 minutes, I unhooked all the wires from my 942 and plugged them into the matching slots on the 622. The layout of items on the rear of the 622 is a little different then the 942. I almost plugged my over the air antenna cable into the space where you are supposed to plug in the UHF antenna for the remote control.
Upon plugging in the 622, I heard something I never heard before on my 942 and that was the vacuum like sound of a variable speed fan under the hood of the 622. After a few second of it's whir the nose went away. The receiver rebooted then came on again.
The first sign of life we saw after the 622 booted the second time was a Point Dish Screen. Here is what we saw, in order of it actually happening.
Next up we did a Check Switch...
The 622 comes set in Dual Mode by Default. So when you try running a check switch you get the following warning.
We say yes and we are on our way!
Ok Check switch is done and here is what it found...
Everything looks good!
From the Point Dish screen you will notice there is an option for Modulator which will also you to change the settings to the on board modulators. Unlike the 942 you can output to two separate RF channels (1 for TV 1 and the second for TV2!)
Once you have got signal and try to exit out you are asked if you are sure you are all set with this screen below.
Yes we are sure, so we select Yes and we move on the following screen...
Once it find the satellite signal the initial software download takes place!
When the software download is complete you are warned not to unplug the receiver.
After this is done the receiver turns off and you hear the vacuum sound roars again from the 622. Next up comes a screen which I hope I never see again. It almost appears though that the Dish Engineers have wrote a way for the 622 to fix itself if data gets corrupted, unfortunately it does it by formatting your hard drive and wiping out all programs you have stored on your 622. Again I hope I never see this screen on my 622 again.
I click ok and we see our first video from the 942...
Errr no we don't instead we get a black screen which looks like this...
I thought something was wrong... luckily I got a phone call while I was scratching my head and while I was on the call video finally came on.
Before activating the unit I decided to look around and see what I could do with the unit. I pressed the guide button, and noticed that all the new "MPEG4" channels were listed in the guide (I use the term MPEG4 lightly since the new channels are not MPEG4... but thats another topic altogether.)
After cruising through the guide for a bit I decided to go through the menus (again this is before I activated the unit) the first thing I did was I pressed the DVR button on the remote which took me to another screen which was a lot different than it was on the 942.
You will notice that there is are new options 1 for your recordings and the second for Movies and More! Yes the 622 had Dish Networks "dish on demand" feature, a feature missing from the 942.
When you look at your recordings screen with nothing recordered here are the stats show. Total HD recording time is 30 hours, and SD recording time is 300 hours.
If you select the Movies and More option from the menu an OpenTV application is loaded and here is what you see.
Now the movies they list are not on your hard drive yet, they will be downloaded when your receiver is powered off.
At the time I did this report only 4 OLD movies were available, I am sure after the unit downloads stuff more there will be more movies available.
Because this loaded up an OpenTV application opened I wanted to check if the 622 supported other OpenTV applications so I went into the guide and found the following channels in GREEN in the menu.
We selected OK and it loaded up the Dish Network customer support application where I could order these channels (kind of a neat trick considering I have not activated the receiver yet)
I then exited this application and then went into DishHome by pressing the Dish Icon on the remote (Note they changed the Dish logo on the remote to the new logo)
I was greeted with the following screen.
What I found neat about this was this was the first time I have seen the Dish Home Screen blocking channels the receiver was not authorized before. I may be wrong but this is the only receiver I have seen do this.
The programs which ran on the DishHome screen were exactly the same ones found on the 942, and it was missing things like the games, karaoke and many of the news features which are found on other receivers.
Leaving DishHome for now, lets press the menu button on the remote. Here is what you see...
You will notice there is a DISH on Demand listing in the menu that the 942 does not have.
Most of the menus are the same but here are a few that are not (and there are a couple of pleasant surprises found in these menus!) here are some of the menus that were different in the 622.
The Search Menu has been totally redone making it easier then ever to find your favorite shows...
Select the Installation Option and you will notice a few new items...
In this menu the first change I want to point out is this one which for some reason I really like, The System Info screen. Now besides telling you your unit ID and smart card number you actually see SYSTEM INFORMATION! Everything you want to know about your setup can be found here (well almost everything!) When you first load it the screen takes a few minutes to fill up with information as it is checking out your setup.
When it is done the status bar changes to a diagnosis of your system. It checks your equipment and checks the satellite signals on all the satellites you can receive and gives you a report so you can easily troubleshoot your system.
Another setting found under the installation setup menu is this one which is not found on the 942, the ability to turn on or off "enhancements." The enhancements are these little popups you will see with a 622, such as "Press Select NOW to order Showtime!" this menu lets you turn this feature off or on.
Another new feature found in the install menu is TV1 Audio Sync. This is a new feature in the 622 that many 942 owners would love to have!
We will continue our review in the next message below.
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: But not new to Sat. Been a DISH NET customer for 13 years come April. My new 50 inch PANASONIC Plasma arrives on Monday and DISH is upgrading/installing my new leased VIP 722 on Friday. I was originally set up with the 622 but was hearing of it having many defects. Called DISH back and insisted on a 722 and paid a one time fee of $25 to upgrade to the 722 but don't Know much about. 622 vs. 722 ??? I was hearing of some customer having to replace they're 622 numorous times but hopfully the 722 has addressed these problems? Want to start off on a good foot as I remember having to replace my old dearly beloved DISHPLAYER 7200 EIGHT times. but when it worked it was great ! Boy could it do one hell of a search and had web tv too. RIP ! Hopefully my new plasma and the 722 should blow my mind. Thanks fer the therapy session. Regards ! mike
Hello all , I'm brand new here.
: But not new to Sat. Been a DISH NET customer for 13 years come April. My new 50 inch PANASONIC Plasma arrives on Monday and DISH is upgrading/installing my new leased VIP 722 on Friday. I was originally set up with the 622 but was hearing of it having many defects. Called DISH back and insisted on a 722 and paid a one time fee of $25 to upgrade to the 722 but don't Know much about. 622 vs. 722 ??? I was hearing of some customer having to replace they're 622 numorous times but hopfully the 722 has addressed these problems? Want to start off on a good foot as I remember having to replace my old dearly beloved DISHPLAYER 7200 EIGHT times. but when it worked it was great ! Boy could it do one hell of a search and had web tv too. RIP ! Hopefully my new plasma and the 722 should blow my mind. Thanks fer the therapy session. Regards ! mike
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Now right up front....this is NOT intended to devolve into a "pot is good" vs "pot is bad" thread. The whole point is to make you aware of a potential problem that a person can develop when they start smoking pot at a young age. Not that they WILL, but CAN. Kinda like getting lung cancer from smoking cigs....some do, some don't. The purpose of posting this news story is to keep anyone from paying an outrageous emergency room bill......knowledge is power.
While this may not affect you, you might run into someone who is experiencing these symptoms and can share the info. Fortunately, it looks like stopping smoking is the cure and isn't a permanent condition.
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While this may not affect you, you might run into someone who is experiencing these symptoms and can share the info. Fortunately, it looks like stopping smoking is the cure and isn't a permanent condition.
Woman's health in ruins after she began doing cannabis aged just 15
A Michigan teenager who began using cannabis at 15 has been hospitalized twice after developing a debilitating illness that causes uncontrollable vomiting and agonizing stomach pains.
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.
I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
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Season 2 order already in hand:
'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home thoughI don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ...
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ...
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.
Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):
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Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):
Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know
Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.
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The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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Well at least they won't have to be dealing with him again.
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Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.
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Time for another AWESOME video from Ham Radio 2.0!
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZnyGKBjy2Mg
Direct YouTube Link - Wait Until You See This Distance #HamRadio #DX #Shortwave
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZnyGKBjy2Mg
Direct YouTube Link - Wait Until You See This Distance #HamRadio #DX #Shortwave
Ham Radio 2.0 Website
Ham Radio 2.0 on Facebook
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Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.
The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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