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Hello. I have been a customer with Dish Network since November 2005 and so far I will state that the quality of the programming and signal is astounding. Most of this is of course due to the actual installation job which was performed by Satellite City, Inc here in Orlando, FL. For the record, I will recommend this retailer anytime for installation as well as customer service and reliability. Initially, based on the kind and number of televisions I have in my house the set-up was to be for the following: 1 Dish 942 receiver and 1 Dish 625 receiver, 2 Dish 500 antennas and all the appropriate hardware to connect all this together. Once again your retailer, Satellite City Inc, came up and installed all this equipment to my satisfaction. The 942 was to work on my living room home theater equipment and DLP/HD TV with the 2nd remote to be stowed for "future home use" (in other word I didn't have any use for it at the time). The remaining 625 receiver was to work on my kids TV's in their room with the UHF remote on 1 room and the IR remote on the other. After a couple of weeks, I decided to purchase a Plasma/HD TV for my master bedroom, I called Satellite City, Inc. for this and they said that I already had the 4 "free" tuners installed in my house (942 and 625) and that for me to add a HD TV would require the purchase and addition of a 811 receiver as well as some changes to be made to the Dish antennas and hardware to accept this. Totally no problem I said and went ahead and purchased a 811 directly from them and set-up an installation with them as well. Once again, they showed up and did a fantastic job, the humorous thing is that I have ended up with 3 Dish 500 antennas and a variety of switches and splitters, diplexers and what not to supply your fine programming in all my TV's.

Up to that time things were fine.

As you can see, my equipment is not even 2 months old, especially the 811 receiver. The other day I am logged on to your site on the internet and I see your brand new HD programming advertising. Curious about your new product I picked up my phone and called Dish customer service to inquire. As your customer service person started to explain my jaw dropped in disbelief as I learned that the brand new equipment I had just installed in my house would not be able to receive the new programming and that I would need to acquire a "New" Vip622 receiver to replace my 942 receiver and for my room I would then need a Vip211 to replace the 811 that still has the new sticker on it!!! That was of course for me to be able to see the new MPEG-4 channels that are coming and the new VOOM channels. I told her that I understood all this but felt disappointed whatsoever because at no time when I subscribed I was told about an upcoming release of new technology and equipment. Had I known, I would have waited a couple of months to then acquire these new receivers and service. I understand about keeping a lid on new technology as business strategies, but not from paying customers. The point is that I felt disappointed and asked to cancel my service at that time (February 4th). I was then transferred to an "account specialist" to cancel and got to speak with a young employee by the name of Manuel. Manuel I felt truly had the intention of helping me out rather than loosing my business since I pretty much subscribe to virtually everything you offer, HD, Movies, Playboy, etc. I told him that it didn't feel that customer service was providing "customer service" but anyhow this gentleman talked to his supervisor and said that they could send a Vip622 for the "lease fee" of $299 and get that installed, once the work order for the 622 was completed then he would give me a Vip211 "with no lease fee", in other words, Dish would provide and install a 211 at their expense. I thought that was fair and paid $299 over the phone for the 622 and accepted the offer rather than cancel. I asked him when could I expect to receive the Vip622 and he said that the Vip622 WAS TO BE BROUGHT OVER BY THE INSTALLER ON INSTALL DAY. He told me that he was entering all the notes and authorizations in my account on his computer as far as the free 211, purchase of the 622 leasing fee, etc. He said that I should call on Monday (that was a Saturday, Feb 4th) and ask for an account specialist so that they could give me an install date. When I called on Monday (Feb 06) I had to basically explain EVERYTHING again to the acct specialist and here is where the fun begins, he then said that the 622 was to be shipped to me ! I told him that his colleague had said that it would be brought by the installer, this caused him to put me on hold so that he could go figure this out with a supervisor, after about 5 minutes on hold my call got dropped!!! I again called and got somebody else. NOBODY KNEW HOW TO ANSWER MY QUESTION!!! DROPPED CALLS ALL THE TIME AND ME HAVING TO EXPLAIN THE SAME STORY SEVERAL TIMES. They could not even trace my order for the 622!!! At that time I had to go after 2 hours of wasted time on the phone. I gave me 2 days to calm down and decided to call again on Feb 09. I again asked to speak to an account specialist and once again had to explain everything. The agent apologized for all the confusion and assured me that she would straighten all this out, I thanked her and told her I appreciated her help and commented on the LACK OF INFORMATION that Customer Service had on this new receivers and offers and how I had been subjected to ALL KINDS OF ANSWERS in regards to my particular situation. She of course put me on hold so that she could read my notes and get the appropriate departments involved, I asked her to please be careful because for some reasons dropped calls are very particular with customer service at Dish Network. Of course and sure enough, my call was dropped!!!!!!!! Since I was at work I figured I would call again that night. Upon reaching my home I had a message from the lady at Dish apologizing for the dropped call and however she had found out that the receiver WOULD BE BROUGHT OVER BY THE INSTALLER!!!!!, she also authorized 2 months of free programming to compensate for all my trouble and that she would put that in my notes. After hearing her message I called that night again to again try to find about how this receiver would reach my home and talked with a gentleman named Paul in the account specialist department. Once again I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING to Paul all the way down to the message left by the other lady at the account specialist department, by now I have spent well over 12 cumulative hours of my time repeating my self with customer service. Paul puts me on hold and comes back and tells me that MY WORK ORDER WAS CANCELLED TODAY BY A SUPERVISOR AND RE-SUBMITTED AGAIN APPARENTLY DUE TO THE ACTIONS OF THE PREVIOUS LADY TO HELP, BECAUSE OF THE "NEW WORK ORDER" THE DELIVERY OF THE RECEIVER WOULD NOW BE COUNTED 10 BUSINESS DAYS FROM THAT DAY, THE 9TH !!!!! I felt that I was having an "out-of-body" experience and my ear drums actually hurt from hearing this preposterous disclosure. I summoned myself and with all maturity asked how come that happened and he repeated the above given explanation. I said that the previous lady had left a message saying among other things to call the HUB and ask for an earlier install date. He said that at that time he would be unable to call the HUB because it was closed, I asked the 640000 dollar question...who is bringing me receiver? He says that IT WILL BE SHIPPED DIRECTLY TO ME!!!! I busted out laughing because I told him that I was told by the previous lady that THE INSTALLER would bring it!!!! He said that he could not believe that she had told me that because what he was saying was true. I offered to play the message and he said he did not need to hear that and HUNG UP ON ME!!!!! So here we are, rudeness at its best. So I call again throughout the course of the next few days, each phone call turns into a waste of 2 hours, enjoying all the spectrum, from extreme rudeness (account specialist Paul) to extreme apologetic and kindness. At this point in time finally I was able to find out that the receiver WAS IN FACT SHIPPED TO MY ADDRESS VIA UPS AND IS SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. I have since PURCHASED MY OWN VIP211 BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO GO THRU THIS ORDEAL AGAIN, IMAGINE HOW UPSET I MUST BE THAT I CHOSE TO PURCHASE IT FOR $399 RATHER THAN GET IT FOR FREE AS "PROMISED". Of course when I called to get this new 211 activated that turned out to be another STAR WARS, "cant do it with an open work order" and" you'll get only half the channels or I cant switch you to HD Platinum yet"," the 211 is showing as leased(they're supposed to be working on that because it is mine, not leased)".....wow, it is unnerving. In the end they managed to activate it (I already have the necessary hardware in place with 3 antennas and the appropriate LNB's and DPP's to see everything making an install a waist of time)For now, I just await for the arrival of the Vip 622 so that I can connect it and perhaps by watching your fine programming I will forget about dealing with customer service. Of course, I will call to get those 2 months of free programming once everything is in place.

What do I think of Dish Network ?:

1. Excellent Programming, quality of my signal is incredible.
2. Supercristal clear images and sounds all digital.
3. All the HD channels are incredible, including the ones that are new that I can see with my 211 receiver.
4. Customer service, Tech Support, well, I spoke with the whole spectrum and I can say that "most" of the people working there are truly humane and apologetic and that sir made me stay loyal to Dish Network. However, they were overall very un-knowledgeable of the particularities of the 622 and 211 and that resulted in me wasting well over 15 cumulative hours of repeating myself and receiving all kinds of inaccurate information which resulted in extreme frustration and disappointment from yours truly. As a person of common sense and maturity I understand that anytime new equipment or offers come out there's bound to be confusion among your representatives, one of them at one time actually saying that I knew more than he did!!!!

In short I certainly hope everything works ok with my account, programming, equipment, etc from now on because I will not go through this again. I'd rather pay the cancellation fee and take my chances with another company.

Sincerely,
J.C. Fe......
Dish Account#
82......



Update after this email:

The 622 did arrive by UPS and I installed it myself, since I had the above explained ordeal with the 211. Dish again gave me one hell of a time to activate the 622 without an actual install, but in the end they did activate it and cancelled the work order (I live in Orlando,FL and therefore do not require a Dish 1000), I already had all the antennas, switches and hardware to just hook these 2 receivers up (211 & 622).

When inquiring about the 2 months of "free programming" they said that they could not find the notes in the account where it said that. Of course I had the name and employee number of who I spoke with and the date that they entered the notes, so I gladly helped these poor dislexic guys and suddenly they found it, it's a miracle !!!! Anyway they put up a fight and eventually I settled for 2 $50 credit inputs. $50 off of each upcoming bill times 2, I checked it it's there.

Both the 622 and the 211 are performing fine and I'm finally enjoying those 25 HD Channels although some of the stuff in VOOM is quite "strange", enjoyed a Phill Collins concert on HD in RAVE, boy that brought good memories....

Anyway that is my 2 cents guys, thanks for all your help Volkodav.
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GadgetGirl said:
I see that I wasn't unique with customer service. I have recently had to deal with them. I have found that it works best to get to an account specialist. I have not had much luck dealing with the Indian call center. They seem to be very limited in what they can do or their understanding of how to resolve an issue. Try explaining that MLB is not basketball. I don't think they ever understood. I usually have to press to get to an account specialist. I have spent a lot of time on hold and being bounced around. I had quite a few times when my call was disconnected. I still have to make one more call to get everything to where it should be. I hope it isn't another couple of hours to get this done. I like the product that Dish offers but their customer service can use a lot of improvment.
From a tech's point of view the India call center is a friggin disaster area....i get compliants from customers ranging from dropped calls to frustration to uncooperative and discourteous CSR's.....
on occasion I have had to deal with the India call center myself....I hate it...Can't say it any other way..If Dish management has any business smarts they will dump that facilty..I won't hold my breath....
Fortunately my dealings with them are limited.....the best way to appraoch this is to document and submit your complaints directly to diish networks corporate office..Writing to Charlie helps also....
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SBD said:
My first tech job was for a company that had offices in India and San Diego. The company offered tech support to large DSL companies by promising them that they could improve their bottom line while they expanded nationwide. The problem was that the local Telco also sold DSL, so their installs were always put off behind the Telco's installs.

We were called Tier 1 support, but in reality, we were the punching bag for all of the angry customers calling in to complain about their DSL service or lack of DSL service. Some were told they would have it installed in two weeks and waited over 6 months. For those customers with service problems, we had a list of excuses to tell them explaining why their DSL wasn't working. My favorite was asking if they had a microwave in the house and making them move it to see if that helped and call back if it is still not working.

There was always something we could point to that was the cause of the problem. The reason was that we had to be off of the call in less than 10 minutes in order to keep the on hold time down. This allowed us to use less staff and keep the wait time down which is how the company got paid.

The DSL company assumed everything was going great. They saved money, and their customers were being attended to quicker than ever before. The sad fact is that the strategy worked and the DSL company became so big, they were bought by Direct TV DSL.

I was out of there in less than a month!!

Now you know why Dish has so many dropped calls!!


SBD

Good move..I think those worrking in call centers save for retirees and college grads with lots of resumes out in the world, are at the dead end of job choices...Overall, customer service goes downhill whenever unemployement rates fall. Part of that is because pay rates fro custoemrr service people are low..T
I have a question but first a comment...in dealing with Dish CSR's on the Tech line it seems they are reluctant and sometimes unwilling to allow a transfer to a supervisor....Is it true that CSR's can be reprimanded for transfering calls to supervisory people.....Answer that from your past experiences at the DSL company..Thanks
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Sorry Jordan about the "crammed" original post....it was sort of a la "Jerry Mcguire" kinda "I just started writing and writing about how I felt" thing. I didn't worry about spacing or anything....will try paragraphs next time !!!
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SBD
dishcomm said:
Good move..I think those worrking in call centers save for retirees and college grads with lots of resumes out in the world, are at the dead end of job choices...Overall, customer service goes downhill whenever unemployement rates fall. Part of that is because pay rates fro custoemrr service people are low..T
I have a question but first a comment...in dealing with Dish CSR's on the Tech line it seems they are reluctant and sometimes unwilling to allow a transfer to a supervisor....Is it true that CSR's can be reprimanded for transfering calls to supervisory people.....Answer that from your past experiences at the DSL company..Thanks

Sorry for the delay in my response to your question, I have some health issues to deal with all of a sudden. Anyways, I was referred to the Sutherland Group from the school where I earned my MCSE. At the time, I had no tech experience as my former employment was owning a restaurant. Even though I was only there a month, it gave me a tech company to list on my resume.

As for your question regarding transfers to the supervisor, most of our calls wanted to be transferred to a supervisor. The supervisor had pretty much the same authority we had, which was none. Usually he or she was the best sympathizer with customers and would say anything to get them off the phone. They never gave a correct name to anyone. The main reason we did not transfer to the supervisor was because the supervisor did not want to talk to them. The more angry people we sent to him, the more our schedules would to be changed to more graveyard shifts or early morning shifts as punishment for not being able to take care of it ourselves.

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wow!!! Youot to love csr. Man i whish volkodav would told me about this website sooner .ijust found out about satteliteguys. I went to CES in vegas ,in january. And talked to dish reps out there .When I got back i new more than enyone else on the shop about new HD.The problem is new system get realised but insteler got no training on it,so we have to learn on our own,2-3 mounts down on the road they usualy came out whit a training. My point is if instalers doest get proper training in time Im not surprised that CSR doesn't eather.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Lose My Number - Phil Collins
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
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If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
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Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Juicy Lucy jalapeño burger… Tea
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
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My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
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My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
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Dr Pol did not like or use his
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Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.
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