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JoeSp
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A few comments about the OTA capabilities of the VIP622.

First, the ability to lock onto the OTA signal is very much improved over the 811. This unit will lock in the low to mid 50's with some considerable macroblocking but get that signal up to the high 60's and low 70's and the VIP622 will more likely hold that signal lock very well!

Second, recovery time is very quick if you do lose the signal. With the 811 if your signal began bouncing in and out the 811 seemed to get into a lost mode of trying to find the signal. The VIP622 seems more adept at finding and keeping the lock. This goes with the OTA tuner working much faster.

I feel that the quick recovery and find times are due to this tuner being a Digital Only receiver with no analog capabilities built in. Without having to search for analog the tuner can do its bidding much faster with less error.

Third, the audio on Digital channels that support 5.1 is definately improved. I use the optical out for sound. I have read that the HDMI will only support 2 channel sound. Someone else will have to chime in here on this one. However, there is definate improvement to the sound field on 5.1 playback from OTA Digital channels.

I think that anyone who is with Dishnetwork and wants to know if upgrading to one of the new MPEG4 recievers will improve their ability to watch local OTA HD should get this upgrade ASAP!

Now for the few downsides--there are always improvements to be made.

Some have complained about lip-syc issues. While I have not had these problems often I wonder if these problems could be related more to getting your sound from the HDMI port instead of the Optical port. Changing the channel back and forth usually works. If I am watching a recorded program I just pause and then hit the play button and that usually works everytime. After the last two software upgrades I have not noticed this problem at all.

Also, if you watch alot of OTA HD and I do I have noticed that going back to the Satellite channels I lose the picture. I am not sure what is going on here. This has happened usually after watching OTA HD for over 3 hours in a row. This has happened enough that I believe it must be a bug. Sometimes switching back and forth between OTA and Satellite will work but not often. I usually have to do a soft reboot. That always works.

Interesting sidenote on the above statement. Sometimes the only video I lose is on the VOOM HD channels. Humm?

Recording OTA HD is very easy however with just one tuner you cannot record one OTA Digital show and watch another OTA Digital show at the same time. The only thing the VIP622 really needs is a second OTA digital tuner. However, you can watch a previously recorded OTA HD show from the DVR while recording an OTA HD show at the same time. Not the same as recording and watching two differant OTA HD shows in HD in the same hour but it feels like it.

This last thing I am not total clear on but I will let you decide. I have a powered signal booster. It did absolutely nothing for the VIP622. I tried many differant adjustments but the VIP622 seems to not like it. This booster worked well the the 811. In fact, I would not have been able to lock in half of the OTA HD channels I was watching with the 811 without the booster. With the VIP622 it could not get a signal lock using the powered booster.

The VIP622 does a better job of locking and holding the OTA HD signals without the powered signal booster so I took it out. My run to the top of the mast is aproximately 85 feet. This booster is not the Channelmaster one so I do not know if the Channelmaster would change my results. However, this one has the ablility to boost the signal 40db and block out FM signals and did work well with the 811. I just believe that the OTA Digital tuner in the VIP622 is very superior to what was being used in the 811.

I hope that this will help those who are on the fench and trying to decided if the new VIP622 will improve their OTA Digital viewing. It has for me. I hope that I have covered everything and if not I am sure others will add to the above.:)
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I have had a great improvement in reception since i got the 622. I got the 6000 back when the OTA 8VSB tuner was just released. I lived (at that time) about 15 miles from Boston and even though all the channels were being broadcasted from pretty much the same tower, I could never get all of them to lock. One would always cause problems depending on the angle. After I moved, the problem persisted. Some channels would lock, others would not. With the 622 I get all the channels locking with signal strenghts above 85 and mostly above 95. The only exception being our fox channel which is on low power from what i hear. I am now about 25-30 miles from the towers. Even fox locks in fine at signal stength of 75.

Sal
waltinvt
Ok, I just spent about an hour fooling around with OTA on my 622.

I took the plug-in part of the amp out (not the pre-amp on the mast) and sent coax direct to 622. Signal dropped by at least 20 on both of my solid stations (from low 80s to low 60s on one and low 50s with no lock on other) and it did nothing for picking up the fringe stations that I used to get some signal activity on with my 811.

There is also another station I used to lock with both the 811 and 942 but can't even get a flicker of signal with the 622. Granted, I had to have the antenna turned in just the righ location but I used to get mid 70s with the 811 and mid 60s with the 942.

So this tells me that at least MY 622 is not as good an OTA tuner as either MY 811 or 942 was.

Obviously some of you think your getting better results with the 622 than you did with your previous HD OTA tuner and only you know if your doing an apples to apples comparision. Also obviouse is that at least some 622s are NOT as good at OTA, which is a real mystery.
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sal1 said:
I have had a great improvement in reception since i got the 622. I got the 6000 back when the OTA 8VSB tuner was just released. I lived (at that time) about 15 miles from Boston and even though all the channels were being broadcasted from pretty much the same tower, I could never get all of them to lock. One would always cause problems depending on the angle. After I moved, the problem persisted. Some channels would lock, others would not. With the 622 I get all the channels locking with signal strenghts above 85 and mostly above 95. The only exception being our fox channel which is on low power from what i hear. I am now about 25-30 miles from the towers. Even fox locks in fine at signal stength of 75.

Sal

I purchased my 6000 during the closeout sale just before the 811 was introduced. I am 62 +- 2 miles from the Atlanta Digital towers and reveived all of the Atlanta HD stations (except for the low powered PBS station which I occasionallly receive) with signal strengths in the 65 to 75 range. With a signal strength of 48 or higher, I received a perfect picture on the 6000. About 6 months ago I started having multipath problems with NBC DT-10. With the 622 the signal strengths are in the same range, but I need a signal strength of about 63 or higher to receive a picture without macroblocking. Several times the signal strength has dropped to this level on the 622 and I have experienced macroblocking. The multipath problems are the same with the NBC DT-10. However, we receive the the Atlanta HD locals from the satellite now and not being able to receive NBC OTA is not a problem. I do have a very good Chanel Master 777 pre-amp that maybe the 622 does not like for some reason.

However, I am very happy with my 622 that was installed on March 2 along with a DPP44 and Dish 1000 and DP LNB's for my Dish 300 aimed at 61.5. I initially had some video dropouts that were fixed with the first software update and audio dropouts that were fixed with the last update. I have recorded 3 programs at a time on several occassions without any problems.

Although it is not as good at OTA as my 6000, we really like the 622 and with the latest software release it has been very stable. I have not had to reboot (or had it reboot) in the past 3 weeks.
DucTape
I cannot comment on the other various receivers but from what I have always read the 921 ota tuner was and remains terrible. My observations going from 921 to the 622 tuner are good but this could be the only reason why.
JoeSp
Waltinvt, I think your VIP622 OTA tuner must be having technical difficulties. Even though my signals are down around the low to mid 70's from the Mid 80's on the 811 with the power amp the VIP622 will hold a lock on the digital station with a 68 or higher signal with no macroblocking. I can turn my antenna by hand and change the signal strength and have noticed that the 622 does alot better job with weaker signals. I would call Dish and ask for an exchanged based on the poor performance of your unit. The VIP622 really does do a better job of pulling in digital signals then the 811. Good Luck!
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
. Raine
If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
(((Garyd)))
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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They Call the Wind Maria - Vaughn Monroe
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Maria Magenta - Donovan
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My Maria - Brooks & Dunn
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My Maria - B.W. Stevenson
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Don't Lose My Number - Phil Collins
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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jsmit86
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Juicy Lucy jalapeño burger… Tea
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
jayn_j
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
dishstaller
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
navychop
Dr Pol did not like or use his
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Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.
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