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Im frustrated, so here goes some venting.

I was laid of earlier this month, and called to cancel Voom to cut back some monthly expenses. I called on the last day of my current billing cycle, and was told no more charges would be incurred, and that they would be sending someone saturday 4/17 to pick up the equipment(I took advantage of the rental plan). At this point, I was glad for a hassle free experience, and was looking forward to being able to subscribe again.

Saturday came and went, with no one showing up to pick up the equipment. I thought "No big deal, could have been lost in the paperwork."

I didnt call until last night to make another appointment. When I talked to the CSR, I was told I was actually scheduled for today, 4/20 from 8-noon. I was lucky enough to find a job, and no one is home at that time, so we rescheduled for this saturday.

However, Voom decided today to charge me another $95 for april. When I called to see why, I was told that my account is still shown as active, even though I canceled on the 6th, and was told no charges would occur.

Now, since the account info they have is taken from my checking account, I have to deal with possible overdraft fee's, returned checks, etc. all because they havent received their equipment back. However, this is not my fault, as I had the equipment taken down on the same day I called to cancel, ready to hand to the (un)installer when he arrives. I was here all day on the 17th waiting for an installer to come by to get it.

I cant imagine Directv or Dish Network charging someone like this. I have called to cancel with both companies before, and in both cases, service was stopped on that day, and I was not charged any further. While I understand I have their equipment, I should not be penalized or charged because they can not schedule someone in a timely manner to pick it up.

Voom has lost a customer for life. I was willing to resubscribe when we got back on our feet financially because I really enjoyed the service, but this inconveince has made me reconsider. None of what has occurred was told to me on the day I canceled. As I said, I was assured by the first CSR that no charges would occur, and the 4/17 date was set for pickup, and again was told nothing last night when I spoke to them about making another appointment.
The company is unwilling to reverse the charges now, and I am told they will only do so approximately 10 days after the equipment is picked up. So, my family and I have to worry about the $95 whole in our account, which may not seem like alot, but when you become unemployed, every cent counts. I have a few friends with HIDEF tv's who liked what they saw, and where considering voom, but now no longer will be doing so because of my experience.

Being charged for something after canceling just seems wrong. I've been nothing but polite in my conversations, but really needed to vent somewhere. Im going to go sit in the corner now and cry:) Why can't things just be simple? Im glad I have little bit of a sense of humor, or I might be going postal(was a mailman for years, so I have the right to say that!)

Enough venting, time to go enjoy DirecTV.
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sad story. this might happen to me soon. i plan to cancel voom as soon as the nba playoffs are over. and it doesn't look like voom cares to put espn on before that. i am hopin they will atleast put tnt hd on.
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DrGori,

please send me you full name and address to Sean_Mota@satelliteguys.us and I see what I can do for you. Not promising anything but let's see. :)
"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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JSheridan
Actually it looks like there are a lot of features new or updated, although most are on a gradual rollout schedule.

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There were several new updates today.
"MysteryMan"
There were several new updates today.
That is correct. My late report is due to internet outages in my area. 2026-11 Security Update (KB5132061) Builds: 26300.9974, 26200.9974 and26100.9974 along with several .NET Security Updates were released yesterday. Moderate time needed for those choosing to perform a manual download/install/restart.
harshness
The Bleeping Computer front page is littered with Microsoft reports this morning. Some are happy, some are scary, and some are ridiculous.
EarDemon
KB5132061 failing to install with error 0x800f0993 seems to be somewhat common. Happened to me one out of my four computers, my main laptop.

Finally got it to install succussfully by running the following commands as admin

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
sfc /scannow
net stop bits

Delete the entire content of Windows\SoftwareDistribution

net start bits

Restart computer
armadillo_115
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Thank to all Veterans for your service!
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dfergie
Thanks to all who have and are serving!
navychop
CORRECTION

Both Wendy's burgers were cheeseburgers.


Sitting in Bob Evan's now.


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navychop
Anybody else trying the Veteran's Day offerings?
NYDutch
Anybody else trying the Veteran's Day offerings?
My breakfast was free this morning at my favorite diner, but it wasn't clear to me whether the owner or another customer paid for it.
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navychop
Bob Evan's was good, save for the powdered mashed potatoes.

Too bad they don't have fried okra.

Prefer Cracker Barrel. But should the previous management decisions result in their closure, Bob is it.
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TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Starting November 10, today, Disney+ brings 3D movies and immersive environments to Meta Quest 3 and 3S devices. Watch select films like Marvel's The Avengers with immersive depth and scale on a screen as big as you want it.
To get started, update your Meta Quest headset to the latest software, open Disney+ and look for the 3D Collection icon in the app navigation bar to check out available 3D films.
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navychop
My wife would kill me.



Just noticed my Sony BD players support 3D. No target device. I wonder if any major brands offer 3D TVs anymore.

Are helmets considered active or passive or na?


I wonder if I told SWMBO we (I could exercise using such…… Or maybe 3D cooking classes/shows
TheForce
To access you have to update your Meta Quest to the latest version v2.10 which was public released on Nov 9. This will also update the controllers as well. Then launch the Disney+ app. This comes with several environments. I tested the Disney 3D theater one and it is in VR180 3D. Watched the new Avengers Movie Quantumania.
The movie is not VR180 3D. It is theater screen 3D. But in a VR180 3D environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNFpri-Y40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNFpri-Y40
I last bought a flat 3D LCD Passive screen from LG but had to order it from China. The remote control is in Chinese. You might research the Chinese websites for what is offered. I only use it in my edit suite to edit 3D theatrical Video Productions.

Keep in mind, The Disney+ app I tested is for the Meta Quest and I tested so far on my Quest 3.
My home theater uses a Sony projector so I'll test that later. I'm not even sure the Disney+ app on the Apple Vision Pro supports 3D. But I have two BluRay 3D players that also have streaming apps so may need to test with that source.

I'll check it out this evening but 3d is not really something I'm overly interested in tbh.
I've been excited about 3D for over a decade. Have hundreds of movies in 3D BluRay. But the image quality was never as good as with the Meta Quest or expensive Apple Vision Pro. If you have the 3 it's probably going to be the best experience of all the head mounted display. Just charge it up and go into settings and update your software over wifi. That takes about 5 -10 minutes to V2.10. If you already have Disney+ loaded you should be all set. If not you will need to install that next and subscribe.

I've been on and off with Disney+ over the years and just recently subscribed monthly based on them announcing this 3D a few months back. I'll probably switch to the annual plan Premium with Hulu now they came through with this 3D. BTW- the Dolby Atmos surround sound is amazingly good.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNFpri-Y40
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b4pjoe
I'll probably switch to the annual plan Premium with Hulu now they came through with this 3D.
Disney does not offer an annual ad free Disney+ and Hulu bundle. It only has a monthly plan for $21.99 per month.
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navychop
I wonder if it's part of my DTV MyEntertainment package

I just have no interest in what Disney offers.
meStevo
Messed with it for a little bit, works quite well.
dishdude
I thought the 3D craze was gone for good.
ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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comfortably_numb
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
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I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
He bought that for $50,000. What he bought was originally called QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) from Seattle Computer Products which was designed to be similar to CP/M - an OS for the Intel 8080. Seems like a decent investment. ;-)

There have been claims that the original developer of QDOS stole CP/M code and according to legend there is some command that you can type into MS-DOS that makes it print the name of the developer of CP/M, thus proving theft, but no one seems to know what that command actually is. ;-)
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fmj77
And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
ATT has the best service by far in my area, with Verizon being a distant second. T Mobile service is non-existent in these parts.
comfortably_numb
ATT has the best service by far in my area

I've never been to NC, but I can't think of anyplace in the Midwest or West where AT&T outperforms Verizon or T-Mobile, it seems to me they just don't have as many towers here
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fmj77
I've never been to NC, but I can't think of anyplace in the Midwest or West where AT&T outperforms Verizon or T-Mobile, it seems to me they just don't have as many towers here
ATT used to be non-existent as well in my area except in cities and towns. Verizon was king and also Carolina West Wireless, a small regional provider. A few years ago I started noticing that ATT's coverage had improved dramatically and since then has overtaken all the others as far as coverage is concerned.
EarDemon
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
Is that campus in Webster still around? I used to see the big signs for it off 104.

I really had no idea Xerox was even still around in any meaningful capacity, until I started working for the gov't. We have hundreds of B400s, C400s, and B600s in my facility and they SUCK! I assumed Xerox was like the other former pride of Rochester, Kodak, and just limped along on life support thanks to patents and name licesnsing.
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comfortably_numb
ATT used to be non-existent as well in my area except in cities and towns. Verizon was king and also Carolina West Wireless, a small regional provider. A few years ago I started noticing that ATT's coverage had improved dramatically and since then has overtaken all the others as far as coverage is concerned.

I think Verizon had a leg up in the Midwest with their acquisition of GTE. I'm not sure who the early cell providers in the Mountain West were (US West?)
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Almighty1
He bought that for $50,000. What he bought was originally called QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) from Seattle Computer Products which was designed to be similar to CP/M - an OS for the Intel 8080. Seems like a decent investment. ;-)

There have been claims that the original developer of QDOS stole CP/M code and according to legend there is some command that you can type into MS-DOS that makes it print the name of the developer of CP/M, thus proving theft, but no one seems to know what that command actually is. ;-)
This is what Google Search AI says:

No such command exists. The idea that typing a secret command into MS-DOS or 86-DOS will display Gary Kildall's name or a copyright notice is a long-standing urban legend. [1, 2, 3]

The Legend vs. The Facts
    • The Claim: A popular story (often attributed to writer Jerry Pournelle) claimed that Gary Kildall personally demonstrated that MS-DOS contained stolen CP/M code by typing a hidden command that revealed Kildall's name. [1]
    • The Reality: Forensic software analyses—including independent studies of the source code released by Microsoft—found no proof of copied CP/M source code in MS-DOS or its predecessor, QDOS (written by Tim Paterson). [1, 2]
    • API Compatibility: While QDOS intentionally mirrored CP/M's application programming interface (API) and system call numbers so that CP/M software could be easily ported, it was written from scratch in 8086 assembly using published manuals rather than direct code theft. [1, 2, 3]
But we should still take it with two huge grains of salt ;)
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Almighty1
ATT has the best service by far in my area, with Verizon being a distant second. T Mobile service is non-existent in these parts.
I think a lot has to do with what carrier was Verizon originally in that area as Verizon was basically GTE Wireless, BellAtlantic Mobility, Vodafone AirTouch and PrimeCo. The PrimeCo was basically a PCS network similar to the AT&T Orange aka Cingular Wireless networks.
Almighty1
I've never been to NC, but I can't think of anyplace in the Midwest or West where AT&T outperforms Verizon or T-Mobile, it seems to me they just don't have as many towers here
Same here as even in the early days, most people went the AT&T formerly known here as CellularOne because AT&T was cheaper in costs while Verizon formerly known as GTE here was supposedly better but more expensive. At least the Venture Capital Companies on Sand Hill Road chose Verizon for service reliability for a reason.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Things - Bobby Darin
harshness
My Favorite Things - Julie Andrews
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All Good Things - Jackson Browne
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All Right Now - Free
EatMyVolts
You Can All Join In -- Traffic
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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
J
Satfaca thanks for your reply, but what C band lnb are you using just to get an idea.
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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osu1991

The Cybertruck was supposed to make the F-150 obsolete. It wasn't supposed to be boring, like a Ford or a Chevy. It was supposed to be "more truck than truck." It turns out, people just wanted trucks that were trucks, and CEO Elon Musk announced on X earlier this morning is that the Cybertruck is dying.


Ending production in middle of next year at gigatexas for cybercab production.
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dishstaller
IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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harshness
There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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EV owners could face a new $130 annual federal fee as soon as December.

  • Congress is considering a new annual fee for electric vehicle owners to help fund road maintenance.
  • The proposed fee would start at $130 for EVs and $35 for plug-in hybrids, potentially increasing over time.
  • This fee aims to have EV drivers contribute to the Highway Trust Fund, which is primarily funded by gasoline taxes.
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The truck is today's cadillac or buick
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Weekly Analysis for 11/11/2026:
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KJNP/4 is testing for the Fairbanks DMA

WRTV/6 Indianapolis is back, no sign of its sister stations yet

ElectionHQ reverted back to the News Mix

Some TPN swaps
TheRatPatrol
KJNP/4 is testing for the Fairbanks DMA
Wow that's still around. I grew up there.
D
WRTV/6 Indianapolis is back, no sign of its sister stations yet
Just curious, why is there also a ch 22 entry for WRTV on the Excel SS today?
K
It's a remap that replaced the out of market WKEF/22 Dayton a few years ago when they dropped the sigview locals in a bunch of cities.