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It's no secret Charlie Ergen likes to gamble. So it was only fitting that the chairman and CEO of EchoStar Communications Corp. chose Las Vegas as the backdrop to unveil the company's Dish Network direct-broadcast satellite service 10 years ago.

"He presented himself as the boy next door introducing a new thing called DBS as if DirecTV [Inc.] didn't exist," said Buddy Davis, president of Waldorf, Md.-based satellite dealer Davis Antenna. EchoStar flipped the switch to turn on Dish service in front of hundreds of dealers at the Satellite Broadcasting & Communications Association show in March 1996.

"If you look at the history, Charlie started out like the rest of us, with a wing and a prayer," Davis said. "He's a true rags-to-riches story."

During an on-air Charlie Chat with customers last month, Ergen and EchoStar executive vice president Jim DeFranco, who co-founded the company in 1980 with Ergen and his wife, Cantey, said they had bet the fate of the company on the move from the big-dish C-band business to DBS. The odds of failure were high for the EchoStar I satellite scheduled to launch in December 1995 from China, which was new to the space industry. Indeed, the Chat showed footage of the very next Chinese rocket exploding immediately upon launch. If that had been us, Ergen told the Charlie Chat audience, he might have had to go back to a job as a corporate accountant. "I'd be back selling wine," DeFranco added.

At EchoStar headquarters in Colorado, employees who had gathered to watch the launch of Dish Network's first satellite also had concerns about their futures.

"Nobody told us the Chinese do different countdowns than Americans," said former Dish vice president of marketing Barbara Sullivan Roehrig, now a multichannel industry consultant and career coach for Denver-based BG Marketing Inc.

While a rocket typically blasts off at the count of one in the U.S., there was a four- or five-second delay at the EchoStar I launch for the Chinese countdown, Sullivan Roehrig explained.

"My heart stopped, along with probably 300 other people," she said of the employees and their spouses and children who had gathered in an EchoStar warehouse to watch the live blastoff. "You could have heard a pin drop. It seemed it obviously was failing, and we all had bet our careers on this."

When the satellite successfully lifted off, "you never heard such jubilation," Sullivan Roehrig said.

Ten years later, it's clear the risks paid off. EchoStar counted more than 12 million subscribers at the end of 2005, and the company was recently named the third-fastest-growing Fortune 500 company by Fortune magazine.

Although Ergen plays up his poker-playing, risk-taking persona on earnings calls and press conferences, he's quick to add that he makes decisions based foremost on consumer demand. He and DeFranco learned early that they couldn't make a high-volume business out of selling big-dish satellite systems at $20,000 per installation. So they decided to shift their resources to DBS, where the dishes were smaller and the promised higher volumes could lead to lower equipment costs.

"We knew early on they'd be launching a DBS business," said Coleman Breland, executive vice president of sales and marketing for Turner Network Sales. "It was just a question of when the satellites would go up and when the set-top boxes would be ready."

Breland, who started in the home satellite division of Turner, said the programmer knew Dish would be a serious player in the marketplace.

"In the early days of Dish, they were progressive with pricing and marketing," Breland said. "They were smart."

Through the years, Dish has tried to stay on message as the low-cost television provider. Davis admitted that EchoStar's move to discounted satellite systems and installations didn't appeal to dealers, but it was probably a natural way for the business to move.

Sullivan Roehrig recalled heated debates with Ergen over equipment pricing. "He wanted to give the dish away from the beginning," she said.

Because DirecTV had launched the first true DBS service two years earlier and PrimeStar Inc. had its own small-dish offering, Dish had to establish a name for itself quickly and cheaply.

Sullivan Roehrig said the company chose the Dish brand because "we wanted to be generic, like Band-Aid, like Kleenex. We wanted everyone to think of us when they wanted to buy a satellite dish."

With all the other corporate players circling the DBS industry in the mid-1990s, including DirecTV, U.S. Satellite Broadcasting, PrimeStar Partners, TCI Satellite, News Corp.'s American Sky Broadcasting Inc. and then-MCI Communications Corp., "you just didn't expect [Ergen] to be the one to survive," said Steve Blum, president of Tellus Venture Associates and a former executive with Dish competitor USSB, which was later folded into DirecTV.

In 1997, EchoStar signed a merger agreement with News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch's ASkyB and MCI to form a DBS partnership that some industry players dubbed "DeathStar" for its potential to steal customers from cable, which had not yet made the move to digital. The deal disbanded and EchoStar walked away with additional DBS spectrum.

"If there was one big surprise in the past 10 years, that was it," Blum said. "He basically ended up taking over two satellite positions." By 2001, EchoStar had negotiated a deal with General Motors Corp. to take over DirecTV. A year later, after the merger failed to gain Federal Communications Commission approval, the deal fell apart. "If it wasn't for the federal government, Charlie Ergen would have ended up holding all the marbles," Blum said.

Instead, Murdoch's News Corp. won controlling interest of DirecTV in late 2003. "That's the main change in the business landscape over the past two years," Leichtman Research Group Inc. president Bruce Leichtman said.

Dish subscriber additions are starting to flatten, not only from increasing competition from DirecTV, but also from cable operators' bundled offers and to a lesser extent, competition from telephone companies entering the facilities-based video business.

"Another thing creating a different business environment [from 10 years ago] is the oversaturation of the market," Leichtman said. "Over 85% of TV households have cable or satellite. It makes for very different business planning."

With more consolidation brewing within the telecommunications industry, the media can't help but speculate on whether EchoStar might make another run for the altar.

Davis, who was opposed to the DirecTV-EchoStar merger earlier this decade, said he believes "the government would protect the consumer" from any further attempts by the two companies to merge.

Some suggest competition from telephone companies entering the video market, EchoStar's limited funding compared with larger corporate conglomerates, and satellite's lack of a true broadband play could force Ergen to look to a partner to help EchoStar remain competitive.

"He's less likely to make it through the next two or three years as an independent company than he was in the past two or three years; the deck is becoming increasingly stacked against him," Blum said. But Ergen, he added, "has been playing against a stacked deck for over 25 years. I think he loves it."

Some industry observers said it would be hard to imagine Ergen ceding control of EchoStar. A merger with a company that needed Ergen to remain in charge of the video side of the business might be feasible.

"A telco could potentially fall into that," said TVPredictions.com president Phil Swann.

Ergen and his top executives insist that while they would not rule out attractive merger and acquisition opportunities, they're more focused on the day-to-day responsibilities of providing value for their customers.

Dish provides most of its customer service through in-house call centers. At the beginning, Sullivan Roehrig said, all EchoStar directors had to spend an hour each week on the customer service phones to get a feel for the customer. "It was no ivory castle, unlike much of corporate America," she added.

And especially during the early launch days, everyone at Dish was expected to work hard.

"We all worked six and seven days a week," Sullivan Roehrig said. "It was a very charged, fun environment, incredibly stressful, with incredibly high expectations. It was a good stress for most people. We were a David and Goliath story."

Michael Schwimmer, a former executive vice president of programming at Dish and now CEO of SíTV, said the hard work at EchoStar was "never a burden for me because my heart was in it."

Schwimmer said one of the reasons he left the DBS company for SíTV was he wanted the chance to be CEO. "That wasn't going to happen as long as Charlie Ergen was around," Schwimmer said. "They didn't need me in that role."

Ergen "needs to be the boss," said Swann. "It's not necessarily a weakness. Some people are like that."

Ergen said he would be willing to step down as head of EchoStar one day if someone else stepped up who could prove able to do a better job. Until then, many believe, he'll keep a strong hand in all aspects of the operations.

"If Charlie ever does sell or retire, I think he'll do it when he's brought the company to a place where he's satisfied with it," Sullivan Roehrig said. "He's not the type to leave with strings untied. He's a perfectionist."

Ergen is so closely associated with the EchoStar and Dish brands that he has his own TV show and cult following on Dish. Ergen and DeFranco keep in touch with their customer base through the monthly on-air "Charlie Chats," which feature everything from programming updates to celebrity interviews to calls to action when EchoStar needs help getting its message across to Congress.

"It's a great service," Swann said of the Charlie Chat. "DirecTV should take a page from them. I hear more animosity from DirecTV customers who see DirecTV as a huge monolith of a corporation. Dish customers have more of a sense that they're being listened to."

In an e-mail exchange, HDNet LLC president Mark Cuban said appearing on the Charlie Chat was "more fun than Leno, except he didn't have a bar cart."

Over the years, EchoStar has tried a number of ways to create buzz for Dish, first with a DishMan spokescharacter, then with a long string of in-your-face, anti-cable ad campaigns, and late last year, a contest to rename a town Dish.

While the deal to rename Clark, Texas, as Dish, Texas, clearly brought inexpensive press coverage to Dish Network, Dish mayor Bill Merritt said the deal helped the town, too.

"It's given us worldwide publicity," Merritt said. "We want to grow our town. Developers have come to us specifically because of the deal and the notoriety." He added he hopes to grow the town's population of 111 to 50,000 by the end of the 10-year contract.

If the 10-year growth curve of its namesake is any indicator, such a lofty goal isn't out of the question.

Dish Network Through the Years

1980: Charlie Ergen founds EchoStar Communications Corp. precursor Ecosphere with Cantey Ergen and James DeFranco.

1987: EchoStar files for first direct-broadcast satellite license with the FCC.

1992: EchoStar wins orbital slot at 119 degrees west orbital longitude.

Nov. 14, 1994: Dish Network begins construction on Dish Network uplink center in Cheyenne, Wyo.

June 20, 1995: EchoStar issues initial public offering of stock.

Dec. 28, 1995: EchoStar launches first satellite, EchoStar I, from Xichang, China.

March 16, 1996: Dish Network sends its first broadcast signals to customers from its Cheyenne Uplink Center and unveils Dish signals to dealers at SBCA Show in Las Vegas.

July 15, 1996: Dish signs its 100,000th subscriber.

Aug. 1, 1996: Dish Network systems sell for $199 nationally; Dish opens a second customer service center, in Thornton, Colo.

Sept. 10, 1996: Second DBS satellite, EchoStar II, is launched from Kourou, French Guiana.

Nov. 1, 1996: Dish Network begins broadcasting from EchoStar II satellite.

1997: EchoStar and American Sky Broadcasting announce proposed merger; agreement falls apart the same year.

Oct. 5, 1997: Third Dish Network satellite, EchoStar III, launched from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

December 1997: Dish celebrates its 1 millionth subscriber.

May 8, 1998: EchoStar IV satellite launches from Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan.

July 11, 1998: Dish Network holds first annual Team Summit for retailers in Denver, Colo.

Oct. 20, 1998: Dish Network opens its third customer service center, in McKeesport, Pa.

Nov. 30, 1998: EchoStar acquires the 110 degrees west longitude orbital slot from News Corp. and MCI World Communications.

Jan. 21, 1999: Dish signs its 2 millionth customer.

May 17, 1999: EchoStar acquires additional satellite capacity, at 61.5 degrees west longitude.

July 19, 1999: Dish unveils its Dish 500 satellite system, promoting a 500-channel system.

Aug. 1, 1999: Dish recognized as No. 1 in customer satisfaction among cable and satellite subscribers in a survey by J.D. Power and Associates.

Sept. 23, 1999: EchoStar V satellite launched from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

Oct. 7, 1999: Dish Network signs its 3 millionth customer.

Dec. 20, 1999: EchoStar Communications Corp. added to NASDAQ 100 titles.

Jan. 6, 2000: Dish Network introduces high-definition television satellite receiver.

Feb. 3, 2000: Dish Network opens fourth customer service center, in El Paso, Texas.

April 27, 2000: Dish Network acquires 4 millionth customer.

July 14, 2000: EchoStar VI satellite launches from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

Sept. 6, 2000: Dish ranks No. 1 in customer satisfaction among satellite/cable customers by J.D. Power and Associates.

Nov. 14, 2000: Dish acquires its 5 millionth customer.

Nov. 16, 2000: Dish Network opens fifth customer service center, in Christiansburg, Va., and the sixth customer service center, in Bluefield, W. Va.

Jan. 8, 2001: EchoStar introduces a satellite receiver with digital video recording and interactive television capabilities.

June 11, 2001: Dish signs its 6 millionth customer.

Oct. 28, 2001: General Motor Corp.'s Hughes Electronics division and EchoStar announce merger plans.

Jan. 9, 2002: Dish Network introduces next-generation digital video recorders.

Feb. 19, 2002: EchoStar VII satellite launched from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

Feb. 28, 2002: Dish signs 7 millionth customer.

Aug. 22, 2002: EchoStar VIII satellite launches.

October 2002: FCC denies EchoStar-DirecTV merger.

Nov. 21, 2002: Dish enters 50th market with local-into- local broadcast programming.

Dec. 2, 2002: Dish signs 8 millionth customer.

Dec. 10, 2002: EchoStar and Hughes Electronics terminate proposed merger agreement.

Jan. 9, 2003: Dish Network announces its interactive television is available to 5 million households.

July 31, 2003: Interactive television available to 6 million Dish Network customers.

July 31, 2003: Dish Network opens customer service center, in Harlingen, Texas.

Aug. 7, 2003: EchoStar IX, first U.S. satellite equipped for Ka-band for broadband, launches.

Aug. 24, 2003: Dish Network introduces free DVR to qualified customers.

Sept. 2, 2003: Dish signs its 9 millionth customer.

Sept. 24, 2003: Dish announces it is first company in the industry to sell 1 million DVRs.

Nov., 2003: Dish Network launches "Cable Pig" advertising campaign encouraging consumers to save money by switching from cable.

Dec. 18, 2003: Dish Network celebrates local channel availability in 100 markets.

January 2004: Dish Network promotes a high-definition television bundle of HD-ready satellite receiver with HDTV monitors.

April 12, 2004: Dish Network delivers interactive television to 8 million households.

May 20, 2004: Dish Network announces it is first satellite TV service to offer local channels in markets in all 50 states and Washington, DC.

June 14, 2004: Dish announces its 10 millionth subscriber.

Aug. 5, 2004: Dish expands local channel availability into Puerto Rico.

Aug. 18, 2004: Dish earns number one customer satisfaction rating by cable and satellite providers from J.D. Power and Associates.

Oct. 18, 2004: Dish launches multiple-picture ITV mosaic channel coverage for the 2004 presidential election.

Jan. 6, 2005: Dish Network introduces DishPlayer DVR 942 satellite receiver that records in HD.

Jan. 20, 2005: EchoStar purchases Rainbow 1 satellite and the rights to 11 DBS frequencies from Rainbow Media Holdings LLC, a subsidiary of Cablevision Systems Corp.

Jan. 24, 2005: Dish Network announces it offers 100 international channels.

Jan. 31, 2005: Dish announces 11 millionth subscriber.

March 8, 2005: Dish adds first African channel to international programming lineup.

April 29, 2005: Dish adds Voom HDTV programming channels.

Aug. 30, 2005: Dish provides six simultaneous mosaic channels to ITV customers.

Sept. 20, 2005: EchoStar and SBC sign strategic pact.

Nov. 15, 2005: Clark, Texas, changes its name to Dish, Texas.

December 2005: Dish signs 12 millionth subscriber.

Jan. 1, 2006: Lifetime pulled from Dish line-up in carriage dispute.

Jan. 10, 2006: Dish launches DishHD, dubbed nation's largest HDTV package.

Jan. 19, 2006: Dish introduces DishFamily programming tier.

Feb. 1, 2006: Dish and Lifetime Television announce multiyear carriage agreement.

Feb. 2, 2006: Dish Launches local HD stations in HD in New York and Los Angeles.

Feb. 15, 2006: EchoStar X satellite lifts off successfully from SeaLaunch.

Source: MCN research and EchoStar Communications Corp.

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BFG
Nice read.

They left some stuff out of the timeline of course though ;)
cablewithaview
BFG, man how much more do you want???
lakebum431
Interesting article. Thanks for posting.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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My Maria - B.W. Stevenson
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
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If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Juicy Lucy jalapeño burger… Tea
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
jayn_j
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
dishstaller
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
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Dr Pol did not like or use his
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Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.
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