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I followed the advice of those on the forum and, after haggling for 21 minutes with the retention department, I got them to give me a HR10-250 for shipping/handling of $19.95. Thanks to those who have shared their experiences. But, it wasn't easy.
I told them I was a ST and SuperFan subscriber and was considering canceling because I could not fully take advantage of the service without an HD-DVR. I said I wanted an upgrade. She acts like she has never heard of anyone asking for this before. First, she offers me a $100 off ($299). I tell her that is not good enuf -- I have spend lots of money buying D* equipment (HD receiver, dish, DVR, etc.) and want a better deal. Then she offers a $10 credit on HBO for 6 months. I say still not good enuf. I tell her that others in my situation are being upgraded free. She says this is the best deal she can give for someone in my situation.
Then I ask if there is someone else I can talk to about getting an HD-DVR upgrade for a longtime customer and question whether D* is interested in retaining me as a customer. She goes on and on about how expensive the equipment is and how D* wants us subscribers to invest in it. Then she says the equipment will be replaced in a couple months with 4mpeg technology. So I tell her, why are you asking me to pay $299 for something you say is obsolete? Then she asks, how much do you think is fair? I am thinking this is going nowhere so I say, I shouldn't have to pay more than $100 for this HD-DVR. At that point, I am clearly losing.
She says "let me check my notes." Then after about 5 minutes on hold, she comes back and says I can have the HD-DVR for free! She says you need to "be persistent" and ask for another opinion. Apparently, either (a) she talked to someone else who told her that D* was giving ST customers the HD-DVR and she didn't know it before then or (b) D* has trained these people to play stupid, negotiate, and try to get something when people ask for the free deal.
So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. All you forum members who pitched in with information saved me a few hundred $. It did take more than 20 minutes of haggling to get there, but it was worth it.
I told them I was a ST and SuperFan subscriber and was considering canceling because I could not fully take advantage of the service without an HD-DVR. I said I wanted an upgrade. She acts like she has never heard of anyone asking for this before. First, she offers me a $100 off ($299). I tell her that is not good enuf -- I have spend lots of money buying D* equipment (HD receiver, dish, DVR, etc.) and want a better deal. Then she offers a $10 credit on HBO for 6 months. I say still not good enuf. I tell her that others in my situation are being upgraded free. She says this is the best deal she can give for someone in my situation.
Then I ask if there is someone else I can talk to about getting an HD-DVR upgrade for a longtime customer and question whether D* is interested in retaining me as a customer. She goes on and on about how expensive the equipment is and how D* wants us subscribers to invest in it. Then she says the equipment will be replaced in a couple months with 4mpeg technology. So I tell her, why are you asking me to pay $299 for something you say is obsolete? Then she asks, how much do you think is fair? I am thinking this is going nowhere so I say, I shouldn't have to pay more than $100 for this HD-DVR. At that point, I am clearly losing.
She says "let me check my notes." Then after about 5 minutes on hold, she comes back and says I can have the HD-DVR for free! She says you need to "be persistent" and ask for another opinion. Apparently, either (a) she talked to someone else who told her that D* was giving ST customers the HD-DVR and she didn't know it before then or (b) D* has trained these people to play stupid, negotiate, and try to get something when people ask for the free deal.
So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. All you forum members who pitched in with information saved me a few hundred $. It did take more than 20 minutes of haggling to get there, but it was worth it.
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
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I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TWiT Tech Podcast Network
Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTFfPz10OI
Direct YouTube Link - Club TWiT: Media Club #3 - Best of Adult Animation: Futurama, Rick and Morty, and Simpsons Classics
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTFfPz10OI
Direct YouTube Link - Club TWiT: Media Club #3 - Best of Adult Animation: Futurama, Rick and Morty, and Simpsons Classics
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Booredatwork.com
Time for another AWESOME video from BoredAtWork!
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/apQ9G9Nr9so
Direct YouTube Link - Alexa Tablet 12 Pro Unboxing!
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/apQ9G9Nr9so
Direct YouTube Link - Alexa Tablet 12 Pro Unboxing!
Booredatwork.com Website
Booredatwork on Facebook
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My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke 
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Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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