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Last reply Jul 10, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Frequent Loss of Program Guide (EPG)/What's going on?

About twice a day my new 622 is losing all of the the Standard Definition channels from the electronic program guide. For example, the EPG skips from my local OTA channel 69-3 (KSWB in San Diego) to satellite channel 6407 (KGTV via satellite in San Diego). When this happens, I cannot direct tune in any of the satellite channels (such as 112 HGTV or 200 CNN) until I perform a check switch/test operation and download a new program guide. Basically, if the channel is not shown in the EPG, I cannot directly select it from my remote control.

Although this happens about twice a day with the 622 receiver, it has also happened once in the last 5 days with a 211 receiver that is fed from the same Dish 1000 3 LNB antenna. The fix required was the same on the 211 receiver; download a new EPG or forego all of the standard definition channels from the satellite.

I have the 120 channel package with the HD package and San Diego local stations on both receivers. Are others experiencing the same problems? Are there any work arounds? I am about to call Dish technical support, but the forum is probably my best resource at this point. I have indicated signal quality on both receivers in the high 70s for most of the transponders on the 110 and 119 satellites. The signal quality varies from 59-64 for most transponders on the 129 satellite.

Any help would be most appreciated.

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pdxsam

Jul 10, 2006

Dish Tech Support is probably your best bet at this point. That's a weird one. There could be so many issues causing this it's hard to pinpoint.

EPG losses are tied to loss of signal in most cases so it could be a bad cable, a bad switch, a bad separator. It could also be poor fitting connectors. I know in the very warm climates connectors lose their "hug" on the cables due to the constant expansion and contraction due to the heat of the sun.

Good luck.

Sam

BigTVSteve

Jul 10, 2006

Might have found the EPG Problem/Doh!

Sam,

Thanks for your suggestions; my cable run is brand new and is only about 15 feet long from the Dish 1000 to the back of the 622. I will check the connections out, but I MIGHT have found the problem: RTFM!

In the index "troubleshooting the program guide", the manual says that if all channels are not displayed, then take a look at the favorites settings and be certain that it is set to All Channels. In my case, it was set to HD Channels. Apparently a new program guide would download when I forced it, but sometime later the setting of HD Channels in the favorites section of my setup caused all of the non-OTA and non-HD channels to drop out from the guide

When the channels would disappear, I definitely had some non-HD OTA channels still showing up in the guide (such as channels 51 and 69 here in San Diego). I think the installer left the favorites set to "All HD" last week. Eventually, all of the satellite-delivered non-HD channels would disappear from the guide. I cannot explain why the direct tuning of the missing channels would usually not work, but I saw this several times myself, so it is not just a family training issue.

I will report back on whether this is a long term fix/correction of operator error.

bayzbol44

Jul 10, 2006

I am new to E* so I hope this is not a stupid suggestion, but are you sure you are not pressing the "Guide" button to exit the Guide. When you do this, it changes the channels that are available in your guide.

BigTVSteve

Jul 10, 2006

Probably another RTFM Item

Bayzbol,

That was anything but a stupid suggestion you posted. Many thanks for your tip on cycling through the displayed channel lists by repetitively pressing the Guide button on the remote. That issue (really a "feature") may have bitten my wife, but I don't think it got me, since I use the cancel button or just select a desired channel with the select button to exit the guide display.

Regardless of the favorites settings in my preferences setup, pressing the Guide button repetitively cycles between the following on the EPG: 1) List: All HD; 2) List: All Chan; and 3) List: All Sub I suspect this behavior is described somewhere in the manual, but your tip clued me into this feature.

So far so good with my favorites set to show all channels. Have not had any situations where channels are missing or in which I cannot access a working channel via the three or 4 digit numeric channel entries on the remote.

Of course, on my 622, the All HD list option is a little misleading as it really shows all OTA SD channels in addition to all OTA HD channels and all satellite HD channels.

pdxsam

Jul 10, 2006

That's what happens when I forget things could be so simple : ) Glad it's workied out of you .

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dfergie

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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment,(a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

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Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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KAB

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Last reply Today at 3:16 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Green Dot on WJ4?

Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.

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Redneck_Randy

Today at 8:34 AM

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The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android

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Today at 3:05 PM

The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like

- When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
- When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:

- An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
- A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It

- Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
- Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]

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Today at 3:16 PM

Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is.

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Last reply Today at 2:40 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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