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Last reply Aug 5, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Does changing the skew on a DishPro 500 change the look angle?

I am in an area that has heavy tree coverage . . . but there are "holes" that could work.

Here's my question. When I point the DishPro 500 to the suggested azimuth and then adjust the skew (by an off-axis rotation of the dish, not the LNBF) does this change the actual "looking angle" as it appears to do? For example, if the suggested azimuth is 236 with a dish skew setting of 135 (Dish's metric, not the true skew angle), the perpendicular angle from the front of the dish appears to change to a different azimuth than at 0 skew. Obviously, this makes a difference as I would have to find the "hole" for the new "true" azimuth (where the dish is actually looking).

My geometry may be off but it appears to me that because the dish is skewed from a point not in the center of the dish then the azimuth angle has to change somewhat with the skew. If this is true, how do I compute this new azimuth?

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Former member 501

Jul 12, 2006

kanjaji said:
Thank you all for your comments. I understand the basics of set up and the need to follow the Dish settings but they are designed as nominal settings (I think). I believe that the skew adjustment changes the looking azimuth by an unknown (to me) amount and thus need to determine what the actual change in looking azimuth is for a given amount of skew change if my assumptions about the geometry are correct. I may be overanalyzing this. Since the actual computed azimuth from my location is 243 (for 119) and 233 (for 110) perhaps the answer for me is to simply make sure that I have a clear sight window from about 228 to 248 and that should give me the leeway for a good hit.

The skew is the one thing you don't want to play around with. It pretty much is set it as specified for your location if aiming at multiple satellites. And set to 90 and aim the other as if a 300 for a single satellite (don't use the 500 values).

(corrected as per Iceberg's post)

Mr Tony

Jul 12, 2006

if you are aiming at a single satellite, skew is 90 (not 0). 0 would be up and down

SmityWhity

Jul 15, 2006

Well, Simple Simon said to me, "a little knowledge is dangerous", and the only thing I can say is, "a mind is a terrible thing to waste" so here's 2 of my senses.

As others have already said -- Enter the zip code for a Dish 500 and you will get the skew, elevation, and the azimuth as magnetic (and maybe it's updated with the annual magnetic deviation).

90 and 0 degrees skew: The Dish 500 skew set to 90 technically = 0 degrees, i.e., neither a + nor a - offset.

The Dish receiver calculations will actually give you the azimuth for your location for a single bird at 114.5W (half way between 110 and 119). Likewise, the skew is the happy middle between the 2 birds as calculated from various programs. But setting the skew to 90 (0 degrees) when using a single LNBF on a I-Bracket to receive a single satellite should give you an excellent signal after adjusting the elevation and azimuth. For such a single satellite dish, you could change the skew as provided by various programs, but will have to adjust the azimuth and elevation. This could be helpful with a limited view and not much room to relocate a dish, but moving the family or changing program source may be better alternatives.

So to answer your question,
"When I point the DishPro 500 to the suggested azimuth and then adjust the skew (by an off-axis rotation of the dish, not the LNBF) does this change the actual "looking angle" as it appears to do?
Yes it does.

So in response to your comment,
"I believe that the skew adjustment changes the looking azimuth by an unknown (to me) amount and thus need to determine what the actual change in looking azimuth is for a given amount of skew change if my assumptions about the geometry are correct."
Although I feel your assumptions are correct, I don't believe doing so is your solution. I believe if you make any significant changes to the skew, and then compensate/correct the angles by adjusting the azimuth and/or elevation, you will effectively be changing the arch for the locations you are looking at, instead of looking at the normal arch of the satellite (Clark's) belt. In other words, if you get 1 bird, you will be looking for the 2nd bird either below or above the belt.

Although it sounds like you are going to use the correct settings and look for the best opening, maybe the above will help if you decide to experiment.

Good luck.

NOTE: I never took geometry and slept through the Louisiana math classes while in high school (but got a 100 on every weekly test).

Multiple wrongs often equal a right.

SimpleSimon

Jul 17, 2006

Good job SmityWhity! You've got it down pat!

In short, set the skew per the book or receiver (making sure it's right - there's known errors in the D1000 book).

Make sure you've got clear view for 5 degrees azimuth each side of "center" (it doesn't need that much, but compasses and eyeballs are rarely perfect. You want to see a tight one - hit the "View my equipment" link just above and check out my 61.5 LOS.

Don't worry about the fact that the LNB arm is skewed - when you go to aim it, you'll just swing it back and forth until you've got correct signal.

THEN look at where the arm is "pointing" and scratch your head, cause "that just can't be right".

mbarnes

Aug 5, 2006

A late reply to this thread, but I don't get in here often, especially since I have been moving over the last month.

Anyhow, skew is technically defined as a variation from the nominal. It was originally applied to vertical and horizontal polarization formats. As you deviated from a due south look angle, the polarity also deviated from true vertical or horizontal by the skew angle. Since the skew adjustment can be critical, it is an awkward alignment to make for the typical consumer. Circular polarization of the signal effectively eliminates the need for skew adjustments. That made things fine for the DBS business initially, but then the need to point at multiple satellites came into play as content increased. Now, once again, skew comes into play, but for alignment purposes, not for polarity issues. As mentioned in previous posts, the look angle for a multiple LNB setup will be adjusted to a point between the two targets. However, to keep the LNB in the focal point of the dish, the dish orientation must be changed from the nominal, or skewed to a point which places the LNBs at an appropriate point above or below dish angle referenced horizontal so they are properly focused referenced to the spacecraft location. This angle will vary with respect to the dish's location east or west of the actual satellite longitude.

All this actually only means that in this case, the skew does NOT reference 0 OR 90 degrees. The skew refers to a difference from the nominal horizontal reference across the dish if it were pointed normally at a single spacecraft.

I hope that makes some sense.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 3 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Today at 5:36 AM

According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

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Jimbo

Today at 8:00 AM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

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Bruce

Today at 8:17 AM

Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

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AZ.

Today at 8:25 AM

Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

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Bruce

Today at 11:08 AM

AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

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Bobby

Today at 11:20 AM

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

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AZ.

Today at 1:09 PM

Bobby said:
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

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TRG

Today at 2:01 PM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish

Bruce

Today at 2:14 PM

AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

Jimbo

Today at 5:12 PM

TRG said:
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees.

Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...

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Jimbo

Today at 5:13 PM

Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?

Jimbo

Today at 5:14 PM

Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .

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Bruce

Today at 7:30 PM

Jimbo said:
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?

Two MLB teams.

Jimbo

Today at 7:35 PM

Bruce said:
Two MLB teams.

Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.

TRG

3 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...

I thought you might like that. :biggrin

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Bruce

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Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

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reubenray

Today at 1:09 PM

In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.

Jimbo

Today at 5:19 PM

reubenray said:
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.

Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

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Bobby

Today at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

Jimbo

Today at 7:25 PM

Bobby said:
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...

Jimbo

Today at 7:26 PM

Bobby said:
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.

brice52

Today at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches

reubenray

Today at 7:41 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.

Jimbo

Today at 7:42 PM

brice52 said:
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches

Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin

Bobby

7 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...

I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Jimbo said:
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 7:29 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Today at 12:34 PM

College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027

The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.

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The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.

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cp2k

Today at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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Jimbo

Today at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Today at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Another example:

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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Bruce

Thursday at 9:59 AM

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

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Saturday at 3:31 PM

tanman said:
For your viewing pleasure...

AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.

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fmj77

Saturday at 8:51 PM

Bruce said:
SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

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Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.

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NYDutch

Saturday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.

Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 9:37 AM

fmj77 said:
That article reads like a political hit job.

You can say that for about 90% of so-called news articles these days.

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https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

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Today at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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KAB

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Last reply Today at 6:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Green Dot on WJ4?

Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.

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Redneck_Randy

Today at 8:34 AM

Google Search

The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android

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That's no good

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Almighty1

Today at 3:05 PM

The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like

- When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
- When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:

- An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
- A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It

- Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
- Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 3:16 PM

Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:37 PM

Reboot the joey it should go away after

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Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Wednesday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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meStevo

Wednesday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Wednesday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Wednesday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Wednesday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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gms49ers

Thursday at 10:02 AM

The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.

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Yespage

Today at 5:39 PM

HipKat said:
The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

I doubt that. The Patriots offense shifted to a more quick release setup to lessen risk of him getting hit in the second half of his career. And Brady also won 3 Super Bowls before he was considered a GOAT player to be protected by the refs. No one really knew who Brady even was with the tuck call. That was all about Belichick knowing which refs to hog tie family members of to get critical calls when needed.

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b4pjoe

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:31 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Paramount+ and HBO Max to merge

HBO Max and Paramount+ to Combine Into One Streaming Platform, Paramount Says HBO Brand Will 'Operate With Independence'

Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined.

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Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
The name is being changed to Skydance and all of Paramount+, Showtime, DIscovery+, and HBO MAX streaming content is rumored to be merged into one streaming service.

So, what happens if you only want 1 or 2 of those, can you still get them individually ?

Juan

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
So, what happens if you only want 1 or 2 of those, can you still get them individually ?

The samething when you only wanted one or 2 channels on cable

Jimbo

Oct 7, 2026

Juan said:
The samething when you only wanted one or 2 channels on cable

Not hardly ....
I'm not trying to get 200 channels.

Juan

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
Not hardly ....
I'm not trying to get 200 channels.

But Paramount has a different agenda..to empty your wallet

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dishstaller

Oct 7, 2026

Juan said:
But Paramount has a different agenda..to empty your wallet

There's a lot of that going around these days. It seems every time I turn around my Youtube Premium is going up another dollar.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 14, 2026

dishstaller said:
There's a lot of that going around these days. It seems every time I turn around my Youtube Premium is going up another dollar.

use an adblocker :biggrin

b4pjoe

Oct 14, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
use an adblocker

There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV. :eeek

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ncted

Oct 14, 2026

b4pjoe said:
There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV.

There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 14, 2026

ncted said:
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.

Do say, How?

b4pjoe

Oct 14, 2026

ncted said:
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.

I am not willing as they keep changing the data and you keep having to block everything all over again. That is why I get the ad-free versions of the streaming services I use which includes Youtube.

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dishstaller

Oct 14, 2026

b4pjoe said:
I am not willing as they keep changing the data and you keep having to block everything all over again. That is why I get the ad-free versions of the streaming services I use which includes Youtube.

That is pretty much my take as well. At this point in my life I am willing to spend $$ to make my life more simple.

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osu1991

Oct 14, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
Do say, How?

Pihole

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osu1991

Today at 5:31 PM

DC Studios Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Stepping Down with Marvel Alum Jeremy Latcham to Take Over

The duo were believed to be safe amid the Skydance takeover of Warner Bros., but now have a former Kevin Feige protege taking over their division.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

DC Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Out as Co-Chairmen, Marvel Veteran Jeremy Latcham to Lead Comic Book Studio

James Gunn and Peter Safran are stepping down as co-presidents of DC Studios, and they will be replaced by Jeremy Latcham.

variety.com

And it begins. Looking to trim $2 billion there will be a lot of people out of jobs.

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Today at 4:42 PM · posted in Antenna Man

SiliconDust HDHomerun Network Tuner and DVR Review

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 4:41 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Saturday at 11:10 AM

Regular$5.399
Premium$5.899
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

osu1991

Saturday at 11:49 AM

$3.55

reubenray

Saturday at 12:47 PM

$3.45 in Jane, MO.

Bobby

Today at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

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