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Jolard
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Dish Customer service is awful. I am happy with the satellite service now, but the customer service is some of the worst I have ever experienced.

True story, started a month ago.

I was a long time dish subscriber, wanted to move from a 522 to a 622 for my new HDTV.

Call late at night, thinking I could beat the crowds. Went through the entire ordering and upgrade process, received a order number, organized for the installation and hung up.

Next night I had a question, so I called back. This time the CSR puts me on hold, and never returns, in fact I get the disconnected signal sound. So I call back. She puts me on hold again, and again I get disconnected. The next call I insist I don't get put on hold. She pulls up my account, and there IS NO indication of my order having been placed. They show that I was inquiring, but no order. Even worse!!!! They have already charged my credit card the $199 for the upgrade, but they don't have the order in the system!!!

So furious, I go through the entire order process again, explaining that I don't want to be charged twice for the upgrade. At the very end the CSR's PC crashes, and she asks if I want to hold or call back. I tell her I want to hold on, and after 15 minutes waiting, she tells me she has everything scheduled and the order is in. So I hang up.

2 days later, I call back again, to make sure everything is fine. AGAIN!!!!! the CSR informs me that there is currently no order in the system for me. She tells me that the CSR from 2 days before must have had system problems again. So for the THIRD time I got through the entire order process. By now I can barely believe how incompetent they are. And you think they would want to upgrade customers.

So I finally get my new 622 installed, and everything is wonderful. However the receiver keeps rebooting on its own. So 4 days later and after lots of work with the Technical group, they agree to send me a new 622. The guy on the phone tells me that there will be a $15 charge for shipping. I tell him that is crazy since this is a new install and they gave me a defective receiver. Finally he agrees to waive the fee.

A few days later I get my new 622, set it up, everything is working much better. But now I check my Bill. Luckily only 1 $199 charge, but they have the $5 fee for no phone line hookup, a $15 shipping fee (that the guy told me he would waive) and some kind of $19 receiver fee. I call billing, and they tell me that the $15 shipping fee and the $19 receiver fee is there because I haven't yet sent my old receiver back. (I am sure this is absolute rubbish, as it doesn't make any sense) As for the $5 (no phone) fee, they have to transfer me to tech support. So I am waiting, finally get tech support, the guy grills me and treats me like I don't know how to plug in the phone line, I insist that I have run the diagnostic on the phone line and it is working fine, and he finally agrees to amend my Bill.

Well guess what, 2 days later, my receiver is now back at Dish, and they still (of course) have not removed the $5 (no phone) fee, and the $15 shipping and the $19 receiver fee. The tech guy told me that the $5 fee would be removed, and of course it wasn't. Now I have to call back again, and get them to remove all these fees. I am at a loss as to how they can run a business this way.

I am VERY happy with the picture quality of the HD channels etc, and have been a loyal Dish customer for a long time. I just can't believe how they deal with this stuff. Anyway, I am now sending this to ceo@dishnetwork.com as well. They need to know how they are presented by their CSR's.
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bb1
I was amazed to read your story because I had the exact same experience last week. I went through the whole ordering process, they took my CC #, and set up an installation date (upgrade to HD). After the installer didn't show up I called and they had absolutely no record of anything. I asked a supervisor what the rep could possibly have been doing while we were on the phone for an hour. Now my supposed install is rescheduled but I'm wondering if I made a mistake to commit to 18 months with this horrible customer service.
R
I sent about 4 emails to that CEO address about my upgrade issues and never once got an email or a call back. I ended up paying half of the nonreturned equipment fee for the returned 811. :(
W_Tracy_Parnell
If somebody would start a DBS service that had good customer support and offered ala carte they would drive Dish and Directv out of business in a year. I don't mind paying for TV (well actually I hate it but...) but treat people like human beings and don't make them have 100 channels they never watch. :mad:
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Customer Service In India

I have noticed that they have switched most of customer service to India. I now push 3 for tech support for any problem I have including billing which so far I have gotten an english speaking rep with no India accent. Yah!!!
I ordered a 622 upgrade had an appointment one week later. I get a call the night before asking if I received my new receiver and I stated no I thought the installer was bringing it, so they said they had to resceduale my appointment which is now the following week. I call back a few days later after still not receiving my unit and get India, Refuse to tell me where I am calling , But I already know by the accent. They tell me they dont know when it is going to get there because they are back ordered and resceduale my appointment again. Another week goes by and no receiver. I call again and demand to know when my box will arrive and get told not for 2 weeks or so and they give me a date and sceduale another appointment. So I sit back and wait and what happens Box comes the day before my last appointment. I call to tell them (India again) I received the box and want to move appointment up but the are all booked up so now I had a box sitting by my HDTV for 2 weeks before it was installed!! Customer Service went in the SHI**ER!!!
Jolard
bb1 said:
I was amazed to read your story because I had the exact same experience last week. I went through the whole ordering process, they took my CC #, and set up an installation date (upgrade to HD). After the installer didn't show up I called and they had absolutely no record of anything. I asked a supervisor what the rep could possibly have been doing while we were on the phone for an hour. Now my supposed install is rescheduled but I'm wondering if I made a mistake to commit to 18 months with this horrible customer service.

One suggestion. I would call and make sure your appointment is in their system. I would have been in the same boat as you if I hadn't called with a simple question. The second time around I called specifically because I wanted to check and they still didn't have the upgrade in the system. You have to call until they verify the install.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Jimbo
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
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Bobby
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
Jimbo
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
Jimbo
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.
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Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
R
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.
Jimbo
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Bruce
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Bruce
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Jimbo
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Two MLB teams.
Jimbo
Two MLB teams.
Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.
cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Jimbo
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
sdfntx
Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion
gms49ers
Soul Man - The Blues Brothers
long_time_Dish
Heart Full Of Soul - Rush
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Expressway to Your Heart -- The Soul Survivors
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ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
NYDutch
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
dishstaller
That article reads like a political hit job.
You can say that for about 90% of so-called news articles these days.
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Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers
comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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KAB
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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Redneck_Randy
Google Search

The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android
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That's no good
Almighty1
The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like
    • When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
    • When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:
    • An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
    • A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It
    • Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
    • Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]
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Scott Greczkowski
Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is. :)
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Reboot the joey it should go away after
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meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.


Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.
Howard Simmons
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.


Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
meStevo
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.
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HipKat
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
He wants to be Brady
HipKat
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').
The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans
gms49ers
The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.
Y
The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans
I doubt that. The Patriots offense shifted to a more quick release setup to lessen risk of him getting hit in the second half of his career. And Brady also won 3 Super Bowls before he was considered a GOAT player to be protected by the refs. No one really knew who Brady even was with the tuck call. That was all about Belichick knowing which refs to hog tie family members of to get critical calls when needed.
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
HBO Max and Paramount+ to Combine Into One Streaming Platform, Paramount Says HBO Brand Will 'Operate With Independence'

Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined. :mad:
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Jimbo
The name is being changed to Skydance and all of Paramount+, Showtime, DIscovery+, and HBO MAX streaming content is rumored to be merged into one streaming service.
So, what happens if you only want 1 or 2 of those, can you still get them individually ?
Juan
So, what happens if you only want 1 or 2 of those, can you still get them individually ?
The samething when you only wanted one or 2 channels on cable
Jimbo
The samething when you only wanted one or 2 channels on cable
Not hardly ....
I'm not trying to get 200 channels.
Juan
Not hardly ....
I'm not trying to get 200 channels.
But Paramount has a different agenda..to empty your wallet
dishstaller
But Paramount has a different agenda..to empty your wallet
There's a lot of that going around these days. It seems every time I turn around my Youtube Premium is going up another dollar.
S
There's a lot of that going around these days. It seems every time I turn around my Youtube Premium is going up another dollar.
use an adblocker :biggrin ;)
b4pjoe
use an adblocker :biggrin ;)
There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV. :eeek
ncted
There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV. :eeek
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.
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MikeD-C05
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.
Do say, How?
b4pjoe
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.
I am not willing as they keep changing the data and you keep having to block everything all over again. That is why I get the ad-free versions of the streaming services I use which includes Youtube.
dishstaller
I am not willing as they keep changing the data and you keep having to block everything all over again. That is why I get the ad-free versions of the streaming services I use which includes Youtube.
That is pretty much my take as well. At this point in my life I am willing to spend $$ to make my life more simple.
osu1991
Do say, How?
Pihole
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osu1991


And it begins. Looking to trim $2 billion there will be a lot of people out of jobs.
dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
osu1991
$3.55
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$3.45 in Jane, MO.
Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.