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ecs4gl

Last reply Aug 1, 2006 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

New Cust: what to expect at installation?

I have ordered DirecTV for the first time and want a little education on what to expect when the installer arrives Aug 7th. I expect that I have a few requests that will cause additional charges beyond the standard installation.

Here is what I ordered:
1. 1 regular receiver
2. 1 HD receiver (no DVR)
3. 1 HD antenna to hook to the dish to view HD local channels on my Sharp Aquos LCD

Here are other things affecting this installation:
1. 180 hour TIVO Series2 Dual Tuner: I want to hook this into the regular receiver and still be able to record a show and watch a show, etc.
2. 250 hour TIVO Series2: I want to hook this into the HD receiver (I know I won't be able to record HD) and record non-HD channels
3. I'm hoping to send an extra line feed from the HD receiver to an analog TV nearby and be able to watch whatever is tuned on the receiver except HD
4. I'm hoping to send an extra feed from the regular receiver to an extra TV nearby - same as #3

Questions:
1. Does anyone see any problems with what I want to accomplish here?
2. Does DirecTV allow extra line feeds to TVs that don't have receivers? Is it something an installer will do?
3. What kind of dish should I request? 3lnb versus 5lnb - I suppose they may not give me a choice anyway. I've read posts that mention the 5lnb is the dish that will handle future HD improvements??

Thanks for the help.

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charper1

Jul 30, 2006

Without going into too much detail right off the bat.

1. You should have selected or been told what dish to expect during order confirmation.

2. By reading your list, it appears you have some extra (billable) specail work that will NOT be covered by the free install program. BUT you can glad pay extra for.

3. You need to call to find out what dish you are getting and see if you can talk to the installer beforehand to discuss your needed work in advance. This way he knows what to expect , can make sure to have all the needed parts/gear and you can get some possible extra cost ideas.

4. Don't be shocked if you might end up being asked to accept a new date. Just in case your install ends up being very detailed and added too past the freebie. IMHO

Plywodstatebum

Jul 30, 2006

Expect the worse, Hope for the best. and clean your gun while the installer is there.

Teronzhul

Jul 30, 2006

It all depends on how nice your installer is. For the tivo hookups, as an HSP employee I am mandated to accomplish complete system integration. If your electronics functioned when I arrived, they must do so equally as I leave. Many technicians though, both contractors and HSP employees are completely unfamiliar with tivo units and you may or may not have success in this regard. There is no training for these that we receive.

If you are getting an H20 installed, they should be installing a 5lnb kaku dish. They will not give you a choice.

Running a separate line from a receiver to another television is quite acceptable per DirecTv, but is definitely not part of standard installation. My office charges $70 for slave lines, but I've often done short ones for free due to the hassle of the electronic check authorization process we have to go through.

As charper said don't be surprised if you end up getting rescheduled. If you get a contractor who is only interested in hammering through installations, they may refuse to do anything custom as they won't have the time available. You will likely then get rescheduled to an HSP employee.

edit: addendum: Also, as I'm sure your ota antenna is headed to the h20, remember that the lines cannot be diplexed for the 5lnb. The installer will need to run a second line for the antenna. Going through exterior walls is standard, but if the tech has to wallfish to an interior wall that is extra. Typically $35 for a wallfish.

edit: reread: Also, for the dual tuner tivos recording one show and watching another. As the tivo will now be fed by the satellite tuner, and each of the boxes you are having installed are single tuner units, this will simply not be possible. The only option here would be to feed the antenna line to your tivo, and this would allow viewing ota broadcasts while recording satellite, or vise versa. Either that or you'd need a second satellite receiver to feed each tivo tuner. That becomes complicated though.

ecs4gl

Aug 1, 2006

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I will see if I can speak with my installer ahead of time.

It looks like I will be able to do the slave lines like I want - but for utilizing the two tuners in my 180 hr TIVO DT box I may be out of luck. The OTA will allow me to get an HD feed of local channels, but TIVO can't record in HD, so I'm guessing I won't be able to hook one of its tuners into the OTA. I'll ask about getting a 2nd DirecTV receiver for the 2nd TIVO tuner - but I'm not sure how well that would work having a double stack of DirecTV receivers on the same TV.

That's one area where I see cable TV had an advantage - I could split off the cable signal wherever I wanted and record from the extra feed (without using the cable receiver box).

damaged

Aug 1, 2006

Plywodstatebum said:
Expect the worse, Hope for the best. and clean your gun while the installer is there.

This works well with in-laws too!

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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Juan

Today at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

dishstaller

Today at 11:47 AM

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

b4pjoe

Today at 12:41 PM

Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

harshness

Today at 12:57 PM

b4pjoe said:
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.

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Juan

53 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

9 minutes ago

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

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Site is slooooow

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Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 57 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Monday at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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telstar_1

Monday at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Monday at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:10 PM

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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telstar_1

57 minutes ago

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 1:24 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 1:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Bruce

Today at 1:17 PM

reubenray said:
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
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Gas Buddy

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

Today at 11:21 AM

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 11:26 AM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Gary Toma

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Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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