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Well, it is the 10th anniversary of my Dish service, and I decided to examine my options for the upcoming year. I have a DVR 942 and an 811 with AT120, HD Pack, and the Voom Originals. I pay for a year's worth of the AT120, so I get one month free ($440 vs. $479.88/yr.). My monthly costs have been DVR fee (up to $5.98), 2nd receiver fee ($5.00), HD Pack ($9.99), Voom Originals ($5), and my Extended Warranty ($1.99), or approximately $29.75/mo with taxes.
After calling in and playing CSRoulette (I did much better the second time), I was looking at DishHD Silver and increasing my monthly bill to $75 (lease a 622 and buy a 211) or $82 (lease both 622 & 211). The additional 8 HD channels would be nice, but I have reached the point of looking at my possible monthly bill and wondering why I'm paying this much money for TV (even though it's HD).
I thought about dropping to DishHD Bronze, but that cuts out too many channels I do watch (Speed, mostly, and BBC America). So, the decision has been made to "let it ride" and not upgrade any equipment or programming at this time.
A few factors that also made this seem like the right choice at this time:
After calling in and playing CSRoulette (I did much better the second time), I was looking at DishHD Silver and increasing my monthly bill to $75 (lease a 622 and buy a 211) or $82 (lease both 622 & 211). The additional 8 HD channels would be nice, but I have reached the point of looking at my possible monthly bill and wondering why I'm paying this much money for TV (even though it's HD).
I thought about dropping to DishHD Bronze, but that cuts out too many channels I do watch (Speed, mostly, and BBC America). So, the decision has been made to "let it ride" and not upgrade any equipment or programming at this time.
A few factors that also made this seem like the right choice at this time:
- Reports of HDMI failures on ViP Receivers - maybe give them a year to sort things out
- ViP Receivers seem buggy - just an observation looking at the forums. My 942 runs quite nicely
- Seems like a rip to send Dish my $699 DVR 942 to get $99 credit for the ViP622 lease
- No $10/mo for 10 months discount on DishHD Package for existing HD customers
- No annual discount for DishHD packages - One of the main reasons I never considered DirecTV (well, HDLite being the other!)
- 811 has my ATSC Local Channel EPG info without paying Dish and extra $5/mo - another case of feeling nickle-and-dimed to death
- We ju$t put in a new HVAC $y$tem
- Possibility of AT&T LightSpeed at some point in the future
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This is the real answer!! COMPETITION. Dish is going to have a very hard time competing with the bandwidth of cable and FIOS. Imagine when analog locals goes dark in 2-1/2 years, and most of the mainsteam cable channels (History, A&E, CNN, TLC, etc.) have switched to HD. How the heck does Dish propose to charge us more for all this when cable will just include it all in the basic tier? All this metal package stuff is a short-term raping of early/mid HD adopters. It too shall pass.
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This is the real answer!! COMPETITION. Dish is going to have a very hard time competing with the bandwidth of cable and FIOS. Imagine when analog locals goes dark in 2-1/2 years, and most of the mainsteam cable channels (History, A&E, CNN, TLC, etc.) have switched to HD. How the heck does Dish propose to charge us more for all this when cable will just include it all in the basic tier? All this metal package stuff is a short-term raping of early/mid HD adopters. It too shall pass.
First, thanks to everyone for pointing out the availablity of the $10/mo for 10 months off, even for subscribers that have/had the HD Pack. What I was saying was based on what the CSR told me when I asked for it. However, it's like those Cable ads where they say "and blah-blah-blah package is at its lowest price for only $15/mo*" and you find out in the teeny-tiny print that the rate goes up 400% after the first 6 months. In this case, it's going up 12-14%.
If I didn't have a wife with a CPA and no children, I would go for the Platinum
If I didn't have a wife with a CPA and no children, I would go for the Platinum
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.
In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.
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In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.
Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News
Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inchesThats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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I was reading this article
thehill.com
That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022
The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
thehill.com
That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027
The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm
After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.
www.lightreading.com
For your viewing pleasure...
finance.yahoo.com
AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It
Semafor’s Rohan Goswami said that AT&T and T-Mobile have discussed removing Boost Mobile from their networks if SpaceX acquires the EchoStar unit, creating a potential obstacle to Elon Musk’s push to become a major U.S. wireless carrier.
finance.yahoo.com
For your viewing pleasure...
AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It
Semafor’s Rohan Goswami said that AT&T and T-Mobile have discussed removing Boost Mobile from their networks if SpaceX acquires the EchoStar unit, creating a potential obstacle to Elon Musk’s push to become a major U.S. wireless carrier.
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm
After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.www.lightreading.com
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Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
He wants to be BradyMahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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HBO Max and Paramount+ to Combine Into One Streaming Platform, Paramount Says HBO Brand Will 'Operate With Independence'
Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined.
Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined.
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There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV.use an adblocker
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV.
DC Studios Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Stepping Down with Marvel Alum Jeremy Latcham to Take Over
The duo were believed to be safe amid the Skydance takeover of Warner Bros., but now have a former Kevin Feige protege taking over their division.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
DC Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Out as Co-Chairmen, Marvel Veteran Jeremy Latcham to Lead Comic Book Studio
James Gunn and Peter Safran are stepping down as co-presidents of DC Studios, and they will be replaced by Jeremy Latcham.
variety.com
And it begins. Looking to trim $2 billion there will be a lot of people out of jobs.
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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