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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Here's the current scenario:

I have a Coolsat 5000. It's connected to a 4-port Diseqc switch. A fixed elliptical dish with two DBS LNBs (for FTA on 110 and 119) occupy two ports. A motorized 36" Fortec dish with one standard linear LNB (for all other FTA) occupies a third port.

I know I know, I'm not supposed to control a motor through said switch because it'll burn out... that's why I want to change it! :)

Anyway I saw some pictures here of guys strapping on a DBS LNB to a linear LNB and enjoying the best of both worlds. That's something I'd like to tinker with (and it's cheaper than a QPH-301).

Here's my proposed setup:

Motorized: Linear LNB + DBS LNB --> Diseqc --> motor --> Coolsat
Fixed: DBS LNB --> Coolsat

Since (obviously) the Coolsat has only one input how do I connect these two dishes together to allow independent control of each dish?

Assuming such a switch exists, what sort of changes would I have to make to the receiver setup to make it all work?

Thanks!
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M
UPDATE:

I picked up a 22 kHz switch and tried hooking it up to the 4x1 Diseqc switch in the following fashion:

Coolsat
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22 kHz switch --- 22 kHz ----> fixed DBS at 119
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0 kHz
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Diseqc --- 1 -----> fixed (temporarily) DBS at 110
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2
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motorized
std linear KU

In the Coolsat I set
119 to 22 kHz "on", diseqc "off"
110 to 22 kHz "off", diseqc "1.0", committed "1"
KU to 22 kHz "off", diseqc "1.0", committed "2"

No dice.:mad:


On 119 I get 94% signal and 94% quality. However, on the other two LNB's I get 24% signal and virtually no quality.

So I tried playing around. The 22 kHz switch on its own works fine. The 4x1 Diseqc on its own works fine. When they're hooked together it DOESN'T work.

It's almost as if the 22 kHz switch is blocking voltage to the Diseqc switch.

By my logic it should work. If no 22 kHz tone is sent, all signals should go through the 0 kHz port (which is hooked to the 4x1 Diseqc) and the receiver should be able to control the Diseqc ports as before. If a tone is sent, signals should only go through the 22 kHz port.

Or am I missing something fundamental in this whole exercise?

Help!?:confused:
voomvoom
mrweather said:
So I tried playing around. The 22 kHz switch on its own works fine. The 4x1 Diseqc on its own works fine. When they're hooked together it DOESN'T work.
It's almost as if the 22 kHz switch is blocking voltage to the Diseqc switch.
Please don't take what I say too seriously, as I've never used a 22khz switch. But, it seems to me like the diseqc switch isn't getting any voltage because you have it turned off. Not because the 22khz switch may be blocking it?
mrweather said:
Or am I missing something fundamental in this whole exercise?

Help!?:confused:
I really don't know, but I think in the settings for a sat that you're using the diseqc with, it will need to be turned on, otherwise, why would it work? I'm sure Ice can get you straightened out in the morning. I doubt I've helped, but that's how I figure it would work.
And another thing. If you only have 2 lnbf's (1 circular & 1 linear), why do you need the diseqc switch. Shouldn't the 22khz switch kind of take care of it.

Al
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voomvoom said:
Please don't take what I say too seriously, as I've never used a 22khz switch. But, it seems to me like the diseqc switch isn't getting any voltage because you have it turned off. Not because the 22khz switch may be blocking it?
No worries Al. :) I have the Diseqc switch turned on in the settings on the Coolsat. I made sure of that!

And another thing. If you only have 2 lnbf's (1 circular & 1 linear), why do you need the diseqc switch. Shouldn't the 22khz switch kind of take care of it.
Yes it would, if I were running only 2 lnb's.

What I want to do is have one DBS lnb fixed at 119 for audio, and strap on (:eek: :D) a second DBS lnb to the standard KU lnb already on the motorized dish. Sort of like a poor-man's QPH-301. :) So I need some way of connecting 3 lnbs to one receiver. I thought this would be the right way to do it!

Thanks for your suggestions!
bidaw
I think your problem is what Iceberg eluded to earlier. You need to change your cable run so that your receiver goes to the motor first....then to your diseqc...then to either your lnb or 22khz and lnb. Mine works perfectly on this setup.

RECVR--->VboxII---> sg2100 Motor--->Diseqc--->Port1 ( 22khz off C-Band LNB)
Port1 ( 22khz on KU Linear on Motorized Dish)
Port2 ( 22khz off KU Circular on Motorized Dish)
Port2 ( 22khz on 119 on Fixed Dish)
Port3 ( 22khz off 110 on Fixed Dish)
Port3 ( 22khz on 91 on Fixed dish)
Port4 is currently free

So to summarize I am running a motorized C-band dish with Diseqc 1.2 via my vbox II to control the actuator....a motorized sg2100 to control my QPH-031 KU Circular/Linear LNB (same as your strap-on experiment)...and 3 fixed LNBs all using 22khz switching...Leaving me a port to spare.

Believe me when I tell you....it can be done! All thanks to the wisdom of the guys around here. Only been here a year, but learn more and more every day!
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M
Hmmm, it seems I should be running coax to the motor first regardless.

Okay, I guess that means I'll have to do some dish rearranging (like moving the fixed dish to the back of the house where the motorized dish is).

Thanks all for the help! :)
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
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now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
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I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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lordodogg
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Hello again, haven't posted here in a while.

This morning, around 6:30am, I woke up and found the front panel lights on my HR44 on (I leave it off all the time as it is co-located with one of my Geminis).

Immediately thinking that either a reboot or power outage occurred, I checked the software version, and found that it's still the same release that was sent out last month.

I then ruled out a power outage by checking the clocks on my appliances and seeing that they're still correct (they reset when there's an outage, somewhat similar to the "blinking 12" on VCRs).

I then confirmed a reboot by checking the Upcoming Recordings (fka To-Do List) and seeing that the number was much lower than before (it always resets after a reboot).

I am definitely guessing what happened (and it may very well be actually what happened) is that the "Reset Required" prompt may have come up sometime overnight, and it eventually timed out and rebooted automatically. IIRC that prompt comes up when new software "plugins" have to be installed.

Would like to hear your thoughts, especially since I probably haven't talked to some of you reading this in a while (was a former CE member, left almost a year ago).

Thank you all in advance!
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Tom Speer
My HR54 blue light is on this morning. I think you ae right about the plugins. They are tweaking things in the customer National release. What version does your HR44 Genie have now? I think you are probably on the same varsion as the CE group today.
lordodogg
I believe mine says 0x1D7F
Tom Speer
That is what I have.
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Happened again today & have new software, 0x1d88