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Last reply Nov 22, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

New Dish Mounts

Several have asked about mounting in both the D* and E* Forums recently concerning weather tight mounting, tile roofs, soffit and wall mounting or pole. Well just received my new Smarthome catalog and it looks as if they have added several new options at affordable prices that some of you may want to check out. Enjoy and good luck. With all these options (customer pay) it would appear that just about everyone should be able to receive D* or E* these days?

Weather-Tight Satellite Dish Mounting System Eliminates Exposed Wires

Prevent damage to roof and siding
Universal hole pattern supports dishes 18"-36"
Eliminate exposed exterior wiring

If you've wanted to install a satellite dish but have avoided doing so because of the unsightly appearance of the cords on the house, as well as because of the inherent damage done to the roof, you can now rest easily. The CommDeck is a communications and satellite dish mounting system that provides a weather-tight dish-mounting platform designed to look like most roof vents. Whether you're pre-wiring a new home or completing dish or antenna installation today, the CommDeck eliminates the need for exposed wiring or cabling while preventing damage to your roof or siding. RG6 messengered cables are required for installation and are sold separately. A satellite dish is also sold separately.

http://www.smarthome.com/7798C.HTML

12-Inch Satellite Dish Mounting System Won't Damage RoofEasily removed without leaving holes
No cutting of shingles required
No damage to roof materials

Your landlord is far more likely to approve your request for a satellite dish if you can guarantee that his roof won't be damaged. The RetroDeck 12-inch Satellite Dish Mounting System is a solid mounting platform designed for today's dish installations on existing homes: It can be easily removed for future locations without leaving holes in your roof. The SuperDeck has a 16-inch flashing and a universal hole pattern for dishes between 18" and 36". A satellite dish is sold separately.

http://www.smarthome.com/7798S.HTML

SOFFIT MOUNThttp://www.smarthome.com/77531.HTML

WALL MOUNT
http://www.smarthome.com/77532.HTML

POLE MOUNThttp://www.smarthome.com/77534.HTML

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Mike500

Aug 21, 2006

All of these items are expensive solutions to the application. I wonder how many of the roof mounts they sell. It requires basic roofing experience, which as a long term installer, I have. But, how about these low ball fulfillment hacks? Installers who have roofing experience already know how to install for a waterproo seal. Cable entries can be made through the downslope of vents and under eaves. The thing looks like a glorified roof can vent.

For 18 inch dishes, a vent pipe adapter is a good solution. Even a cellular PVC DWV 2 inch nominal vent will support a Dish500, a Dish500 or a Phase III DirecTV dish.

For rafter end eaves, a use a cutoff saw to cut off opposite corners of the mounting foot, so that the mount does not extend below the side of a standard 2x6 rafter.

Mounting on the side of an eave is secure, as long as you put the 3 inch center lag screws into the rafter tail.

A much cheaper and better alternative to the screw in ground pole is an 8 foot chain link line post at $9. Dig a 8 inch x 6 inch deep hole. Auger the center 3-4 ft down with a 2-3 inch diameter auger. Place the pole and plumb it with dirt up to the bottom of the larger diameter top hole. Fill the top hole with about one gallon or 15 pounds of concrete, mixed ultra dry. Tamp and it will support the dish in a half hour. When it comes to removal, dig around the concrete and smash it with a sledge hammer. Remove the concrete. Waddle the pole and pull it out.

aegrotatio

Aug 26, 2006

Mike500 said:
A much cheaper and better alternative to the screw in ground pole is an 8 foot chain link line post at $9. Dig a 8 inch x 6 inch deep hole. Auger the center 3-4 ft down with a 2-3 inch diameter auger. Place the pole and plumb it with dirt up to the bottom of the larger diameter top hole. Fill the top hole with about one gallon or 15 pounds of concrete, mixed ultra dry. Tamp and it will support the dish in a half hour.

OK but how do you keep the pole from rotating? I suggest drilling a hole in the part that's going into the concrete and put a long bolt through it.

Still for those of us whose only real option is a roof the Smarthome items are fairly nice options.

Commdeck

Nov 22, 2006

commdeck

We will be offering a new mount called DeckLock that clamps to a 8" -10" or 12" rimjoist on any style of wood deck material. This is a good product for landlord issues on rental properties as there are no lag bolts or screws used for the installation.

Like Commdeck and Retrodeck, the Decklock is designed and engineered to accept DirecTV, Echostar and WildBlue dishes. (both large and small)

rcdallas

Nov 22, 2006

aegrotatio said:
OK but how do you keep the pole from rotating? I suggest drilling a hole in the part that's going into the concrete and put a long bolt through it.

Still for those of us whose only real option is a roof the Smarthome items are fairly nice options.

At DNS, what we do is we bend the last foot of the pole so its kind of like a J, then stick it in the ground. Won't turn. Or if we forget to bend the pole, out in the field we'll take a large water clamp and put it on the first 18"' or so, it wont turn either.

Smarthome is nice, but with a little innovation....

dishcomm

Nov 22, 2006

Mike500 said:
All of these items are expensive solutions to the application. I wonder how many of the roof mounts they sell. It requires basic roofing experience, which as a long term installer, I have. But, how about these low ball fulfillment hacks? Installers who have roofing experience already know how to install for a waterproo seal. Cable entries can be made through the downslope of vents and under eaves. The thing looks like a glorified roof can vent.

For 18 inch dishes, a vent pipe adapter is a good solution. Even a cellular PVC DWV 2 inch nominal vent will support a Dish500, a Dish500 or a Phase III DirecTV dish.

For rafter end eaves, a use a cutoff saw to cut off opposite corners of the mounting foot, so that the mount does not extend below the side of a standard 2x6 rafter.

Mounting on the side of an eave is secure, as long as you put the 3 inch center lag screws into the rafter tail.

A much cheaper and better alternative to the screw in ground pole is an 8 foot chain link line post at $9. Dig a 8 inch x 6 inch deep hole. Auger the center 3-4 ft down with a 2-3 inch diameter auger. Place the pole and plumb it with dirt up to the bottom of the larger diameter top hole. Fill the top hole with about one gallon or 15 pounds of concrete, mixed ultra dry. Tamp and it will support the dish in a half hour. When it comes to removal, dig around the concrete and smash it with a sledge hammer. Remove the concrete. Waddle the pole and pull it out.

Commdeck is a nice product..But customers generally will not pay for it....I am not going into my pocket for it....Apparently that is the general consensus..I say that because my supplier stopped selling Commdeck products due to lack of interest...
That pole mount is a disaster....
Our standard pole mount is 5.5 foot galvanized chain link fence post..I use a post hole digger and go down about 12-16 inches....I flair the end of the post with a sledge hammer to about 6".....T take a 2X4 and tamp the enmdof the post into the ground for a little stability while adding concrete....This also pervents the post from turning as I adjust the dish for peak signal...I end up using about 40 lbs of concrete...It makes for a very solid mount..

Scott Greczkowski

Nov 22, 2006

I am happy to report that as of next week a new GOLD SPONSOR will be joining us that fits in this conversation VERY well.

Please help me welcome Dish Mount Products from http://www.dishmountproducts.com

Some very good mounts. I know a lot of our members have been looking for mounts like this.

rcdallas

Nov 22, 2006

I really like that angled fascia mount in the link provided above.

The wall mounts are nice where you take the actual mount itself, you can use it as a caddy for your single/dual messenger.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 2 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:38 PM

https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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Almighty1

Today at 5:30 AM

Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:26 AM

dishstaller said:
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:27 AM

Juan said:
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.

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ERSanders

19 minutes ago

The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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navychop

2 minutes ago

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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hwkn

Today at 2:39 AM

FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship

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ClarkGable

Today at 5:51 AM

Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons

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dishstaller

Today at 8:07 AM

Don't Look Back - Boston

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harshness

Today at 10:03 AM

Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins

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Bobby

14 minutes ago

Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 27 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

46 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

osu1991

27 minutes ago

$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC

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ts27330

Today at 9:47 AM · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 23, 2026

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Oct 24, 2026

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 24, 2026

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Foxbat

Oct 24, 2026

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Today at 8:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

FDA issues new warning for Ozempic - can cause eye-stroke

Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.