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Bring home a new computer with Vista installed might be a rude awakening, and for those folks who are contemplating buying the upcoming new Vista operating program to upgrade from XP beware also!
Why? Your peripherals might not work!
Those old and not so old printers and scanners will need new Vista Drivers.
It will take some time for Vista drivers to be developed for existing gear, and for some they will never get new Vista drivers. Therefore you will have to get new gear.
I have tried the Vista Beta and RC1 and some programs will not work with Vista also.
Please run the compatibility program on your system, it will tell you what will work and what will not.
I'll stick with XP.
Why? Your peripherals might not work!
Those old and not so old printers and scanners will need new Vista Drivers.
It will take some time for Vista drivers to be developed for existing gear, and for some they will never get new Vista drivers. Therefore you will have to get new gear.
I have tried the Vista Beta and RC1 and some programs will not work with Vista also.
Please run the compatibility program on your system, it will tell you what will work and what will not.
I'll stick with XP.
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U.S. Government DOT Bans Vista, Office 2007 and Explorer 7
I just read about this today that the U.S. Department of Transportation (D.O.T.)
has banned Windows Vista, Office 2007, and Internet Explorer 7.
It seems that D.O.T.'s critical applications do not work on Vista. There are some issues with legacy software, but the main problem is that the current standard DOT build doesn't meet Vista's minimum system requirements.
Since Al Gore help to invent the internet maybe he can help D.O.T.
As far as Office 2007, I am using Office 2007 and I like it very much. It takes a little bit of time finding out the new bells and whistles also finding where they moved things around, but overall a very nice upgrade.
I just read about this today that the U.S. Department of Transportation (D.O.T.)
has banned Windows Vista, Office 2007, and Internet Explorer 7.
It seems that D.O.T.'s critical applications do not work on Vista. There are some issues with legacy software, but the main problem is that the current standard DOT build doesn't meet Vista's minimum system requirements.
Since Al Gore help to invent the internet maybe he can help D.O.T.
As far as Office 2007, I am using Office 2007 and I like it very much. It takes a little bit of time finding out the new bells and whistles also finding where they moved things around, but overall a very nice upgrade.
Sorry for the length! being in IT makes me have opinions about this stuff...
Here's my twin pennies on this thing.
Firstly, in the past people have either upgraded for a reason, or they didn't upgrade. People upgraded from Win3.11 to Win95 because it had a major overhaul of the GUI, more capabilities and... really who wouldn't want better than 'ol 3.11?
A lot of the 3.11 boxes could install Win95 and run pretty well. Win95 to Win98 introduced more hardware compatibility, slightly improved interface, better Plug-n-Play (Plug-n-Pray, anyone?), and increased system stability. Again, the more recent Win95 boxes could take the 98 upgrade.
The next step in this line is debatable, so I'll cover both angles. Next official rung on the ladder for home users was Windows ME; everyone I know (or admit to knowing ) got Windows 2000 instead. What M$ meant for an office OS, home users grabbed due to the comparative rock-solid stability and much improved GUI / feature set. Sure, when it came out it lacked any sort of real gaming support, 95% of DOS apps wouldn't function, and video drivers were a hack-fest nightmare to say the least. But people were much more inclined to try it anyway than the alternatives- sticking with 98, or eventually WinME.
The only place you ever find Windows ME anymore is on parent's / grandparent's pc's because that's what came on it when they bought it at Wal-Mart. It never caught on because no one had a reason to upgrade to it. Stability was equal (if not decreased) from Win98, bugs and glitches abounded, and the entire thing was quite obviously an alternately-themed previous generation OS. It touted nothing of interest, proven by the fact that home users seized the NT-based Win2k with all its gaming flaws. Patches, service packs and drivers were written for 2k that I'm betting no one anticipated having to do, so the home users could better enjoy the "business" OS.
Next up is XP. This was the best of both worlds; gaming and multimedia support from the day of release, plus the stability of Win2k's NT kernel. Most people running Win2k had enough of a beasty system to handle XP, even if after using it for a couple months you upgraded some hardware. XP was basically what everyone wished Win2k had been... a home OS that was stable enough to run in an office environment. It's now widespread and anyone working in IT that buys or sets up computers uses it. It's the accepted standard and norm, even more so than Win98; remember, back then NT 4.0 was the accepted work OS, splitting the two markets while XP covers both. It's been out since 2002 and is well established in both hardware and driver support. Today's apps and games are meant/made to run on it. It's pretty darn stable- even if you botch things up miserably with bad programming etc you can restart explorer without rebooting and keep right on truckin'.
So enter our latest offering, Windows Vista. Here's where Microsoft gets all sorts of things wrong.
Straight off, your hardware isn't good enough. No, I don't just mean the driver support- Win2k started with miserable driver support and did OK. I mean that your hardware was made more than 12 months ago and isn't fast enough to run Vista properly. Whereas XP can happily run on a 500MHz laptop with 256MB of ram, you may as well own an Apple IIe and try and run Vista. For the first time, M$ is forcing a majority of users to buy entirely new computers to handle this OS. Previously many pc's could handle two OS version in a row, if not three (with some more ram); I've seen 300MHz laptops that shipped with Win95 go through Win98, Win2k and then XP. It's certainly not lightning-fast, but it's functional with the laptop's maximum 256MB of memory.
Secondly, this already annoying fact is compounded by the fact that software and drivers working fine in XP won't always function in Vista. Everyone says, "Let's all wait a while for compatibility to mature..." No one said that about Win2k, despite huge initial incompatibilities. Are we smarter now? No, there's just no reason to upgrade. Is XP very unstable so needs replacing? No. Will the latest software and games only work under the next OS? No, in fact a lot don't. Does it provide us with any new features at all? Well, sure...
We get DRM. Hooray for the man trying to monitor and control our media privileges! Everyone wants that! We get a nifty new way to view our Windows in a 3D fashion. Hey, didn't apple do that years back? I remember running some 3D desktop software on Windows98 that did similar, and it was freeware... huh. What else? Oh, and you get to have twice the horsepower at half the speed! What? Yeah, that's the bottom line for me. I just built a rather nice new box with very decent specs- AMD64 5600+ dual core, with 2GB of DDR2 800 ram- and XP friggin' flies on it. Which means Vista would run fairly well. I just got a new engine in my car, now I should install Windows Vista anchors to the back bumper? Why? Bloatware is acceptable if it's a fair trade; Win98 could be installed onto a 200MB hard drive and run on at 200MHz, while Win2k would easily more than fill twice that and need a better cpu... but the stability was 100% worth it. Where's the trade-off in Vista again?
And that's what it all comes down to, in my book. There is no good reason to "upgrade" to Vista. Every previous new OS had solid reasons for switching, and the best they can do with this one is "Oh, look, pretty ways to arrange your windows!"
Sure, the 'latest-and-greatest-gotta-have-it' people will get it. The ones buying new computers will get it by default. But it'll take a real reason for me to purchase the most expensive operating system in history.
Here's my twin pennies on this thing.
Firstly, in the past people have either upgraded for a reason, or they didn't upgrade. People upgraded from Win3.11 to Win95 because it had a major overhaul of the GUI, more capabilities and... really who wouldn't want better than 'ol 3.11?
A lot of the 3.11 boxes could install Win95 and run pretty well. Win95 to Win98 introduced more hardware compatibility, slightly improved interface, better Plug-n-Play (Plug-n-Pray, anyone?), and increased system stability. Again, the more recent Win95 boxes could take the 98 upgrade. The next step in this line is debatable, so I'll cover both angles. Next official rung on the ladder for home users was Windows ME; everyone I know (or admit to knowing
) got Windows 2000 instead. What M$ meant for an office OS, home users grabbed due to the comparative rock-solid stability and much improved GUI / feature set. Sure, when it came out it lacked any sort of real gaming support, 95% of DOS apps wouldn't function, and video drivers were a hack-fest nightmare to say the least. But people were much more inclined to try it anyway than the alternatives- sticking with 98, or eventually WinME.The only place you ever find Windows ME anymore is on parent's / grandparent's pc's because that's what came on it when they bought it at Wal-Mart. It never caught on because no one had a reason to upgrade to it. Stability was equal (if not decreased) from Win98, bugs and glitches abounded, and the entire thing was quite obviously an alternately-themed previous generation OS. It touted nothing of interest, proven by the fact that home users seized the NT-based Win2k with all its gaming flaws. Patches, service packs and drivers were written for 2k that I'm betting no one anticipated having to do, so the home users could better enjoy the "business" OS.
Next up is XP. This was the best of both worlds; gaming and multimedia support from the day of release, plus the stability of Win2k's NT kernel. Most people running Win2k had enough of a beasty system to handle XP, even if after using it for a couple months you upgraded some hardware. XP was basically what everyone wished Win2k had been... a home OS that was stable enough to run in an office environment. It's now widespread and anyone working in IT that buys or sets up computers uses it. It's the accepted standard and norm, even more so than Win98; remember, back then NT 4.0 was the accepted work OS, splitting the two markets while XP covers both. It's been out since 2002 and is well established in both hardware and driver support. Today's apps and games are meant/made to run on it. It's pretty darn stable- even if you botch things up miserably with bad programming etc you can restart explorer without rebooting and keep right on truckin'.
So enter our latest offering, Windows Vista. Here's where Microsoft gets all sorts of things wrong.
Straight off, your hardware isn't good enough. No, I don't just mean the driver support- Win2k started with miserable driver support and did OK. I mean that your hardware was made more than 12 months ago and isn't fast enough to run Vista properly. Whereas XP can happily run on a 500MHz laptop with 256MB of ram, you may as well own an Apple IIe and try and run Vista. For the first time, M$ is forcing a majority of users to buy entirely new computers to handle this OS. Previously many pc's could handle two OS version in a row, if not three (with some more ram); I've seen 300MHz laptops that shipped with Win95 go through Win98, Win2k and then XP. It's certainly not lightning-fast, but it's functional with the laptop's maximum 256MB of memory.
Secondly, this already annoying fact is compounded by the fact that software and drivers working fine in XP won't always function in Vista. Everyone says, "Let's all wait a while for compatibility to mature..." No one said that about Win2k, despite huge initial incompatibilities. Are we smarter now? No, there's just no reason to upgrade. Is XP very unstable so needs replacing? No. Will the latest software and games only work under the next OS? No, in fact a lot don't. Does it provide us with any new features at all? Well, sure...
We get DRM. Hooray for the man trying to monitor and control our media privileges! Everyone wants that! We get a nifty new way to view our Windows in a 3D fashion. Hey, didn't apple do that years back? I remember running some 3D desktop software on Windows98 that did similar, and it was freeware... huh. What else? Oh, and you get to have twice the horsepower at half the speed! What? Yeah, that's the bottom line for me. I just built a rather nice new box with very decent specs- AMD64 5600+ dual core, with 2GB of DDR2 800 ram- and XP friggin' flies on it. Which means Vista would run fairly well. I just got a new engine in my car, now I should install Windows Vista anchors to the back bumper? Why? Bloatware is acceptable if it's a fair trade; Win98 could be installed onto a 200MB hard drive and run on at 200MHz, while Win2k would easily more than fill twice that and need a better cpu... but the stability was 100% worth it. Where's the trade-off in Vista again?
And that's what it all comes down to, in my book. There is no good reason to "upgrade" to Vista. Every previous new OS had solid reasons for switching, and the best they can do with this one is "Oh, look, pretty ways to arrange your windows!"
Sure, the 'latest-and-greatest-gotta-have-it' people will get it. The ones buying new computers will get it by default. But it'll take a real reason for me to purchase the most expensive operating system in history.
I just read about this today that the U.S. Department of Transportation (D.O.T.)
has banned Windows Vista, Office 2007, and Internet Explorer 7.
It seems that D.O.T.'s critical applications do not work on Vista. There are some issues with legacy software, but the main problem is that the current standard DOT build doesn't meet Vista's minimum system requirements.
Since Al Gore help to invent the internet maybe he can help D.O.T.
As far as Office 2007, I am using Office 2007 and I like it very much. It takes a little bit of time finding out the new bells and whistles also finding where they moved things around, but overall a very nice upgrade.
Boy talk about copy right infringement quote of an article that title was misleading.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6166868.html?tag=nl.e550
Here's my twin pennies on this thing.
Firstly, in the past people have either upgraded for a reason, or they didn't upgrade. People upgraded from Win3.11 to Win95 because it had a major overhaul of the GUI, more capabilities and... really who wouldn't want better than 'ol 3.11?
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Excellent post! My thoughts exactly. Everyone comes to me since I'm the supposed IT guru they know...."Hey digi, should I upgrade to Vista?" I always answer..."Sure..I'll downgrade your computer for $50 an hour. When do you want to schedule it?" "Save your money and use this Google link below:"
http://www.google.com/search?q=vist...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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Message with the wrong flavor
It is true that every new OS had initial problems in upgrading in the past; the matter is that Bill Gates stated that Vista is the most tested of the Windows OS and it has the best security. He expects that there will be few problems with VISTA. Also that Vista will have no problems with software backward compatibility!
This OS has been in the development stage for over 5 years! Originally it was suppose to be a new major update to XP, and it was decided to make it a new operating program instead.
Folks come to this forum to get solutions and to become aware of new and exciting news in technology.
I have provided links earlier to help people test their systems for Vista, and provide special Vista hardware tagging labels awareness, hopefully it helped.
I know that it seems that I am bashing Microsoft; I am just trying to make the awareness of problems associate with the upgrade, and I am not alone in this area.
Anyway it seems that this thread is sending the message with the wrong flavor, therefore it is probably time to let it fade.
My final two cents.
It is true that every new OS had initial problems in upgrading in the past; the matter is that Bill Gates stated that Vista is the most tested of the Windows OS and it has the best security. He expects that there will be few problems with VISTA. Also that Vista will have no problems with software backward compatibility!
This OS has been in the development stage for over 5 years! Originally it was suppose to be a new major update to XP, and it was decided to make it a new operating program instead.
Folks come to this forum to get solutions and to become aware of new and exciting news in technology.
I have provided links earlier to help people test their systems for Vista, and provide special Vista hardware tagging labels awareness, hopefully it helped.
I know that it seems that I am bashing Microsoft; I am just trying to make the awareness of problems associate with the upgrade, and I am not alone in this area.
Anyway it seems that this thread is sending the message with the wrong flavor, therefore it is probably time to let it fade.
My final two cents.
No problems with compatibility?! Hmphff.... I've already seen too many I lost count, which is one of the many reasons I wouldn't upgrade even if you paid me to.
Vista hasn't been tested more than XP. I can bet XP has a few more hours of runtime than Vista.
People didn't want to upgrade to XP at first since 2000 was awesome. 2 years later, that all changed. The same thing is happening with Vista right now. Vista will have its day. But it will not be in 2 years. I predict around 2010 we will be in the stage of Vista being a regular thing by then. I also predict that several hacks for the removal of embedded DRM will exist too.
: My company has also stated they do NOT want any Vista builds on their network. If you put one on the network you will be dealt with in the proper manner. We are a large international company...very large....we even have several Microsoft programmers/developers stationed in our buildings with our custom software developers. And no, we do not sell software.
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
Thanks!
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If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years!
Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!
My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse. 
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.
I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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Dang female lions don't mess around when it comes to their kiddos....aka whelps.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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when was the last time they innovated something
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.when was the last time they innovated something
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ...
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...
#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...
Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...
They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.
And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.
In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Amazon to acquire Globalstar and expand Amazon Leo satellite network
Globalstar satellites, radio frequency spectrum, and operational expertise will enable Amazon Leo to add Direct-to-Device (D2D) services to future generations of its low Earth orbit satellite network.
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SpaceX reportedly seeks 80,000 cell sites to become a wireless carrier | Fox News
SpaceX is reportedly pursuing 80,000 cell sites to turn Starlink into a wireless carrier that could compete with Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile for cell coverage.
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