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I just received a phone call from E* customer service which at first I found irritating but now I'm finding myself LOLing about it. So I thought I would share. In this story the word "something" is going to be replaced with "sthg" since there's a lot of them.

The conversation starts out with a "sthg, sthg, sthg, etc" in an Indian accent. I'm clueless as to what they just said. After 5 (count them) attempts I have gotten the word dish and my last name. I ask if he is from dish and asking to speak with me. He says yes and says that there have been a lot of complaints about customer service and wanted to know if I had any. I said well yes. My biggest complaint about customer service is that I can't understand them, I have trouble getting concepts across to them, and their answers tend to not make any sense or I just can't understand what they are telling me.

I then get a "sthg, sthg, number, "dish", sthg, sthg, number, "DVR", sthg, sthg, "install". After a few more attempts, I said are you trying to tell me that E* is going to replace my dish? what does this have to do with my customer service complaint?

I then get a "sthg, sthg, connect you to my supervisor".

Next I get a whole truck load of sthg's and I say I can't understand you, could you please repeat. After many many attempts, with me repeating each time what I think he is trying to tell me so he knows if he has made any progress, I ultimately get a bunch of sthgs intermixed with numbers, "dish", "DVR", "box","waive", dollar amount, "call to install".

I said what does this have to do with my customer service complaint. My complaint was that I can't understand them, I have trouble getting concepts across to them, and their answers tend to not make any sense or I just can't understand what they are telling me.

Then I get a sthg, sthg, sthg, call in 24 hours.

What was that about? Don't I get to say "case in point" now?:confused:

Thru my IT job I some times have to deal with folks who have English as a second language. Some of them can be quite difficult to understand. But at work I often know the subject matter and have spoken with them before so I have a head start. Besides at work I'm paid for it. Shouldn't E* be paying me my hourly rate to listen to their customer service? Just a thought.
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E* would not have opened overseas call centers if they hadn't run into so much trouble keeping their U.S. call centers staffed. Turnover was/is always very high. They're desperate for help even now and advertising like mad for help wanted locally and in other areas where they operate call centers. A new center in Texas just opened, but the overseas centers are established and here to stay.
damaged
You should have tried to slip in a, "Are you trying to say that you want to give me a free lifetime subscription to all your packages?".

;)
KE4EST
You should have tried to slip in a, "Are you trying to say that you want to give me a free lifetime subscription to all your packages?".

;)

LOL!!
dishcomm
I just received a phone call from E* customer service which at first I found irritating but now I'm finding myself LOLing about it. So I thought I would share. In this story the word "something" is going to be replaced with "sthg" since there's a lot of them.

The conversation starts out with a "sthg, sthg, sthg, etc" in an Indian accent. I'm clueless as to what they just said. After 5 (count them) attempts I have gotten the word dish and my last name. I ask if he is from dish and asking to speak with me. He says yes and says that there have been a lot of complaints about customer service and wanted to know if I had any. I said well yes. My biggest complaint about customer service is that I can't understand them, I have trouble getting concepts across to them, and their answers tend to not make any sense or I just can't understand what they are telling me.

I then get a "sthg, sthg, number, "dish", sthg, sthg, number, "DVR", sthg, sthg, "install". After a few more attempts, I said are you trying to tell me that E* is going to replace my dish? what does this have to do with my customer service complaint?

I then get a "sthg, sthg, connect you to my supervisor".

Next I get a whole truck load of sthg's and I say I can't understand you, could you please repeat. After many many attempts, with me repeating each time what I think he is trying to tell me so he knows if he has made any progress, I ultimately get a bunch of sthgs intermixed with numbers, "dish", "DVR", "box","waive", dollar amount, "call to install".

I said what does this have to do with my customer service complaint. My complaint was that I can't understand them, I have trouble getting concepts across to them, and their answers tend to not make any sense or I just can't understand what they are telling me.

Then I get a sthg, sthg, sthg, call in 24 hours.

What was that about? Don't I get to say "case in point" now?:confused:

Thru my IT job I some times have to deal with folks who have English as a second language. Some of them can be quite difficult to understand. But at work I often know the subject matter and have spoken with them before so I have a head start. Besides at work I'm paid for it. Shouldn't E* be paying me my hourly rate to listen to their customer service? Just a thought.

The NUMBER ONE complaint fromn customerrs is the call centers...Customers gripe about not being able to understand the CSR...
The Indian call center CSR's understand but DO NOT speak English.At least fluently...They are trained to use certain phrases and listen for ceratin key words used by the customer..The CSR then matches the keyword with a corresponding response form a script..
GaryPen
E* would not have opened overseas call centers if they hadn't run into so much trouble keeping their U.S. call centers staffed. Turnover was/is always very high. They're desperate for help even now and advertising like mad for help wanted locally and in other areas where they operate call centers. A new center in Texas just opened, but the overseas centers are established and here to stay.
The overseas call centers are there BECAUSE THEY COST LESS TO OPERATE. PERIOD. If they have trouble staffing US call centers, it's because they do not pay a decent wage and/or offer proper benefits. (Up until they reached 10 mil subs, employess had to pay full price for a Dish subscription! Talk about cheap!)

Additionally, they don't even train their English-speaking US CSR's properly. Everybody was familiar with "CSR Roulette" long before the Indian call centers were open. So, add the inability to speak English to the p*ss-poor training, and you get some very frustrating phone calls.
JeremyL
I think that's the problem with most call centers - lack of training and standards. They push unreal measurements of work on these people like number of calls answered, availability time, etc. that just wear people down. Years ago I worked in a call center, and taking calls all day long wore me out more than doing physical labor. I finally got out of it after one day I took 115 calls in a day (that's alot for the place I worked), but did not meet my availability numbers for the day. I was like no @$!^, I took 115 calls and had to do stuff to help them.
Stargazer
The NUMBER ONE complaint fromn customerrs is the call centers...Customers gripe about not being able to understand the CSR...
The Indian call center CSR's understand but DO NOT speak English.At least fluently...They are trained to use certain phrases and listen for ceratin key words used by the customer..The CSR then matches the keyword with a corresponding response form a script..


This is certainly what it sounds like when I try to talk to them because I say certain things and they just dont get what I am saying. COMMUNICATION IS IMPORTANT!!! If customer cannot communicate problems and they do not get fixed you lose business. It is as simple as that.

It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! I find it hard to believe that they could not find enough people to work in their U.S. call centers. I bet people are lined up wanting those jobs and that they would have no problem filling those positions. I can believe that there is high turnover but if they would pay better or treat their employees better then they would keep them.
dishstaller
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· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.

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dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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osu1991
$3.55
R
$3.45 in Jane, MO.
Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Expressway to Your Heart -- The Soul Survivors
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship
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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
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KAB
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Not a bit surprised.

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ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
Almighty1
Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Jimbo
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
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Bobby
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
Jimbo
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
B
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
R
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.
Jimbo
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin
Bobby
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.
Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Jimbo
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Ok, your talking in the right of way ...
I thought you were talking about from the ped to the houses.

Fortunately you don't usually get Cable cuts Under a sidewalk, usually its when a Construction crew us digging with major equipment.

The drops to the house are not going to be very deep, sometimes barely under the sod. 6" is a godsend.
osu1991
I'm fortunate to have 3 fiber providers now.

Cox and T mobile bored and put conduit in before pulling the fiber thru the easement in my neighborhood . Windstream Kinetic I can't remember if they pulled conduit first or not. I remember they didn't have a boring machine when they came thru my yard, they used that for the mainline crossing under the street but had a vibratory plow in my backyard. I remember seeing some blue conduit just don't remember where it was being used. Windstream barely put the fiber run from the pedestal to my house about 2 inches underground. Landscaper hit it while putting landscaping around the pedestal they added to my yard. I made sure they buried it at least 12 inches when they replaced it.

AEP/ PSO the electric company has their main distribution lines running on poles along the back of my property. Cox has their main distribution line hung on those poles before going underground through the neighborhood.

I'm in the middle of a damage claim and about to take them to court as insurance is trying to get out of it claiming the lines were too low. Had an oversized load get lost and try to turn around in an older neighborhood. Pulled down 5 blocks of fiber with separate fiber lines belonging to the city, Cox/Spectrum and ATT.