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RBergmann

Last reply Dec 6, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Closed Captioning [cc]

For the few of us that hold an interest in such things, as of Friday 11/3, I've noticed the addition of captioning content on the LiL HD broadcasts. This has been a big issue for me as well as many others with hearing impairments.

The lack of CC on the locals was a Dish specific problem where they didn't or couldn't retransmit the caption content provided them by the networks.

On another front, unrelated in some ways to the LiL HD CC, HDNETMV began showing CC on some of their movies. For people like me, this is great! They've always shown classics that I wish I could have enjoyed and now I can.

... rab

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roddiaz1

Nov 28, 2006

What is the root of the problem?

So let me see if I get this right.

The issue is with the Dish Network "software" that is running on our satellite tuners? I have the VIP 622 and I'm recieveing the locals over-the-air (Pittsburgh, PA) and yet I have no CC.

When I had the anntena on straight to the TV it had CC. When viewing cable (Comcast) I get the CC. The only problem with this is no DVR features on either of these, so I have to choose DVR or CC.

It looks like the VIP 622 is preventing the CC from appearing on the TV, is this correct?

Thanks,

Rod

mmpotash

Nov 28, 2006

Captioning

"It looks like the VIP 622 is preventing the CC from appearing on the TV, is this correct?"

I have the 942 receiver but I believe it is the same. The Receiver does not allow the HDTV's, (TV1 output), closed cationing feature to be turned on, (it is grayed out in the TV's menu). Instead, you must use the receivers CC set up, which causes the problem. This is not a problem with the station since when the show is replayed, parts of the CC that were missing previously show up, and parts that were on previously are now missing. This means that the CC going into the receiver work fine, but what CC the receiver sends out to HDTV is the problem.

On the other hand, the SDTV, (output TV2 on the receiver), allows the TV's CC to be used, therefore it is fine.

RBergmann

Nov 28, 2006

roddiaz1 said:
So let me see if I get this right.

The issue is with the Dish Network "software" that is running on our satellite tuners? I have the VIP 622 and I'm recieveing the locals over-the-air (Pittsburgh, PA) and yet I have no CC.

When I had the anntena on straight to the TV it had CC. When viewing cable (Comcast) I get the CC. The only problem with this is no DVR features on either of these, so I have to choose DVR or CC.

It looks like the VIP 622 is preventing the CC from appearing on the TV, is this correct?

Thanks,

Rod

Best that I can figure is that it is a hardware problem with the ViP622 and the 811 (I don't have experience with anything other than these).

Only recently I had been receiving CC on all of my LiLs. Lately two of them stopped. This is not an HD ior a locals issue, this is a Dish problem that I had hoped was solved.

I, also, had at one time a cable provider with local HD programming and all the HD was captioned. I expect that Dish should be able to provide the same. All the local programming with cable (CC present) was from the same source (i.e. San Diego locals) as my current Dish installation.

It doesn't matter if you have the DVR capabilities or not. The HD tuners as yet do not decode the captioning as they should.

... rab

bayzbol44

Dec 6, 2006

Is my 622 performing like everyone else's by not allowing my locals to appear with Closed Captioning? Isn't this a big issue with Dish? Have they said they will fix this?

I am not even talking about the HD locals. I would just be happy with my regular locals having closed captioning.

RBergmann

Dec 6, 2006

bayzbol44 said:
Is my 622 performing like everyone else's by not allowing my locals to appear with Closed Captioning? Isn't this a big issue with Dish? Have they said they will fix this?

I am not even talking about the HD locals. I would just be happy with my regular locals having closed captioning.

Insofar at the SD broadcasts, as long as your local stations are providing CC with their content, you shouldn't have any problem displaying it on your ViP622 with the captioning options turned on (in the 622 receiver, not the TV set).

The only issues are with the HD feeds. Dishes equipment is not permitting all provided captioning to appear for all feeds. In my case (San Diego) currently the CC works for the LiLs HD on Fox (channel 6 - excellent CC) and CBS (channel 8 - flaky CC), but not on the NBC (channel 39 - when it was showing, was excellent for live shows like The Tonight Show) or ABC (channel 10 - don't remember how well the CC appeared) feeds (although for a brief time these, too worked). The SD feeds, however, do show the CC.

I'm no long convinced that this is an receiver issue, but rather a problem with how Dish itself decodes (or rather doesn't decode) the LiL HD CC before it sees the receiver.

... rab

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 30 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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ERSanders

Today at 10:52 AM

The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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navychop

Today at 11:09 AM

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Juan

Today at 11:35 AM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

Today at 11:35 AM

Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

30 minutes ago

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.

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Lon.TV

Last reply Today at 12:06 PM · posted in Lon.TV

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Time for another AWESOME video from Lon Seidman of LON.TV!

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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 11:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Another example:

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Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Last reply Today at 11:33 AM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Satfaca

Today at 11:33 AM

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

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Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
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harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

Today at 10:25 AM

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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Today at 9:47 AM · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

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Bobby

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Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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