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Clancy

Last reply Nov 18, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

HD signal on SD receiver

I have noticed today for the first time on a sd receiver model 311 that I am monitoring a signal reading from three conus beam hd transponders.
They are transponders 7 , 13 and 17, from satellite 110 deg.
In the past, a HD receiver was required to view a signal from a HD transponder.
Not so today.

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Jim5506

Nov 16, 2006

Just because a receiver can detect there is a signal on a transponder, does not mean it can decode that signal. A satellite meter can't tune in a satellite channel.

Clancy

Nov 16, 2006

Jim5506 said:
Just because a receiver can detect there is a signal on a transponder, does not mean it can decode that signal. A satellite meter can't tune in a satellite channel.

I am aware of that fact.
What I am pointing out, these #311 receivers have not been able before this week, to measure a signal from a HD transponder. I didn't say anything about decoding the signal.

HDTVFanAtic

Nov 17, 2006

Clancy said:
I am aware of that fact.
What I am pointing out, these #311 receivers have not been able before this week, to measure a signal from a HD transponder. I didn't say anything about decoding the signal.

Correct and the Dish 311s and Dish 6000's could not display a signal strength in the setup on an mpeg4 HD-LIL transponder for example.

digiblur

Nov 17, 2006

HDTVFanAtic said:
Correct and the Dish 311s and Dish 6000's could not display a signal strength in the setup on an mpeg4 HD-LIL transponder for example.

Why? As long as the receiver is 8PSK, it can see the signal strength. It doesn't care what's inside the signal.

Smith P.

Nov 17, 2006

HDTVFanAtic said:
Correct and the Dish 311s and Dish 6000's could not display a signal strength in the setup on an mpeg4 HD-LIL transponder for example.

Too much knowledge sometimes confuse us

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Not true - compression of video/audio packets have nothing to do with lock into transponder with different type of modulation - QPSK or 8PSK.
If your receiver have ability to demod 8PSK, you'll have SS - sure current software must allow to select the transponder first

Smith P.

Nov 17, 2006

Check your R00xxx number if it in the range 50372634-60444363, then you'll have it today.

HDTVFanAtic

Nov 18, 2006

digiblur said:
Why? As long as the receiver is 8PSK, it can see the signal strength. It doesn't care what's inside the signal.

I understand what you are saying, I can only confirm what Clancy says is what happens in reality.

I can only assume the bios is coded that way.

HDTVFanAtic

Nov 18, 2006

Smith said:
Too much knowledge sometimes confuse us .

Not true - compression of video/audio packets have nothing to do with lock into transponder with different type of modulation - QPSK or 8PSK.
If your receiver have ability to demod 8PSK, you'll have SS - sure current software must allow to select the transponder first .

Perhaps you would have liked to see the 0 signal strength on mpeg4 transponders on my 6000 and 311 that have full strength on a Vip211? Or the 0 strength on transponder 13 and 17 on my 311 with a full strength on the 6000s and the ViP211.

I am not saying the signal isn't there - apparently firmware isn't coded to display a signal on those transponders for type programming it cannot display.

Smith P.

Nov 18, 2006

NP, just remove 8PSK cartridge from the 6000 and use it with GenPix USB interface card - you'll have good signal and it will be locked regardless MPEG2 or H.264. Minus is you can't watch programs, but all System Info will be available for your pleasure.

BTW, all those tpns are CONUS, not beams - will be nice if Mods will correct the Topic.

Clancy

Nov 18, 2006

Smith said:
NP, just remove 8PSK cartridge from the 6000 and use it with GenPix USB interface card - you'll have good signal and it will be locked regardless MPEG2 or H.264. Minus is you can't watch programs, but all System Info will be available for your pleasure.

BTW, all those tpns are CONUS, not beams - will be nice if Mods will correct the Topic.

My opening post referred to the three Conus beams.

For those that need clarification, Conus means Continental United States.
A Conus beam is supposed to cover all of the continental US.

A Spot Beam has its radiation directed to a smaller area or areas.

When the signal leaves the satellite, it can radiate to a very narrow beamed area which we tend to call Spot beamed or it can be beamed to just half the country or it can be beamed to all of the country.

Regardless of the transmitted pattern, all the various signals are called a beam. :up

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Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

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dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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long_time_Dish said:
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It's on Prime.

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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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comfortably_numb

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slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:26 AM

dishstaller said:
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:27 AM

Juan said:
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.

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