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rdinkel

Last reply Nov 27, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

HDMI vs Component

I have a VIP622 on order that should arrive this week. I will be connecting it to a new LCD HDTV in the living room as our second HDTV. My older HDTV does not have HDMI connection, but this new one does.

I have heard about problems with the HDMI output on Dish HD receivers, but I have a different question: If I were to try the HDMI connection, would the VIP622 pass SD content via HDMI as upconverted to 720P or 1080i--or would it just pass along the original SD digital signal?

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Eric_C

Nov 27, 2006

I've calibrated my TV, its no perception issue.

HDMI out of the 622 is terrible on some sets.

I have no problem with HDMI out of my Yamaha C950 DVD player either direct or being upconverted with my RX-V2600.

I recalibrated with the HDMI and the PQ is inferior. Its quite a large complaint about the new MPEG4 recievers that HDMI PQ is bad.

I've had 5 seperate recievers of various type that always have put out superior PQ with HDMI/DVI, this one does not, how is that a perception issue?

sprintcarcrazy

Nov 27, 2006

I aggree, my Sharp Aquos looks better with HDMI, but the JVC looks much better using component.

In fact, the JVC has a better overall picture than the Sharp.

primetimeguy

Nov 27, 2006

But keep in mind unless your TV has had all of its inputs calibrated the same by a true ISF calibrator (not something like DVE) a lot of the difference you are seeing is how the different inputs are setup on the TV and not the difference in the actual source (tuner, DVD player, etc.). That is why it is often difficult to do a side by side comparison since you would need the same source to feed two differernt inputs on the TV, ideally at the same time.

Tom Bombadil

Nov 27, 2006

I had to change both my picture and brightness settings by 5 to 10 points when I switched from component to HDMI. The HDMI outputs were much brighter and washed out my picture. I was really surprised by how different the two were ... but perhaps the difference was in my TV's inputs or it's analog to digital processing on the component side???

But, as I said before, after tweaking both a lot, in the end I found the HDMI picture to be sharper and have better color saturation.

From monitoring several of the HDMI threads here, it is my take that about 75%-80% prefer the HDMI connection. That's one of the reasons why so many people groan when their HDMI output fails and they have to go back to component.

primetimeguy

Nov 27, 2006

I would normally recommend people with digital displays to use the HDMI connection, but with the problems with the 622 you may want to use component. Using HDMI you avoid the D/A and A/D conversion which can cause PQ degredation. But that being said, if your set is properly calibrated you would have a very hard time telling a difference with most material. Test patterns may be another story. So try what works best, but just because HDMI does not look better does not mean it is the tuner. Afterall, HDMI is pure digital and theoretically nothing about the PQ should be touched until it hits your TV.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:38 PM

https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:27 AM

Juan said:
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.

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ERSanders

53 minutes ago

The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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navychop

36 minutes ago

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Juan

11 minutes ago

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

10 minutes ago

Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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juventusbrown

Last reply 12 minutes ago · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Satfaca

12 minutes ago

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 48 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 8:07 AM

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Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

Today at 10:25 AM

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

osu1991

Today at 10:44 AM

$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC

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ts27330

Today at 9:47 AM · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 23, 2026

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Oct 24, 2026

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 24, 2026

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Foxbat

Oct 24, 2026

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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dishstaller

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Today at 8:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

FDA issues new warning for Ozempic - can cause eye-stroke

Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.