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Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I did my part to keep our economy running, what with Black Friday and Cyber Monday and all. I took Dishstore up on their Thanksgiving Day special and ordered a ViP211 to replace my 811. I like the new GUI on the 942 and going back to the 811 made me jones for the 3-hour guide w/video and descriptions liek the 942. The extra 10% was the extra push I needed.

I came home tonight to find that UPS had delivered the ViP211,, so I knew what I'd be doing tonight! It took all of ten minutes to disconnect the 811 and plug in the 211. It would have gone faster, but Dish moved the connectors around a bit between the two, and I added the CAT5 Ethernet cable (even though it isn't doing anything yet) for the future. Since my set in the bedroom doesn't have HDMI and to minimize the chance that pushing the receiver around might stress the HDMI connector, I left that off for now (awaiting a new HDMI-equipped flat panel some day?)

After a last minute check (hmmm, only one set of analog audio outputs, so I need to find my RCA "Y" cables) that everything is plugged into the right jacks, I do the smoke test and the ViP211 springs to life. I get to aim my dish (w-w-w-way ahead of you, buddy) and run a switch test to introduce it to my DP34. ViP does its 3 tests, finds the right satellites, and gets to downloading the latest firmware.

Reboot, and I'm looking at a screen that says "You haven't activated your receiver yet" so I call 1-800-333-DISH and hope for a good technical CSR. Bingo, he understands that I'm swapping out my 811 for the ViP211, gets the R# and S#, and even makes it my primary receiver (thinking ahead to the ViP622). No change is necessary to my legacy HD Pack + Voom originals, he says, unless I want to go the metal DishHD? No, thanks, I say, I just want to swap the receivers.

Bingo, a quick ten minutes of being on hold and my receiver is now restarting. After it comes back up, he walks me through some screens to make sure that is well, but my HD channels are red. Wait for 30-45 minutes, he says, and call back if it hasn't changed. I thank him for his time and hang up.

(now we come to the part of the story where it goes to heck in the proverbial handbasket)

45 minutes later and I still do not have HD :( And, in addition, my OTA ATSC channels that I scanned in and verified nice, strong signals on, do not appear in the guide and cannot be tuned in no matter what I try. Hmmmm, sounds like I don't have an HD-enabled ViP211. Well, I can watch the fish swim around in HD on 9443, but that's it. If I try to watch HDNet or any other HD Pack or Voom Original channel, I get:

Attention [765]

To activate your receiver's high definition functionality
please call 1-800-333-DISH (3474)

[ OK ]​

I'm sorry, but it is NOT OK. So, I call Dish again, and get a very nice woman who doesn't have the ViP211, but does have an HD set and seems very familiar with HD in general. I could continue to bore you with the details, but after spending an hour and twelve minutes on the phone with her, Dish was unable to get my ViP211 to believe that it was allowed to receive my HD channels.

Here's my question to those of you with ViP211s: When you look at the System Info screen, how is your ViP211 identified? Mine says "ViP211 - SD", and I think the "SD" means that it is not HD-Enabled. The CSR says that my receiver has been sent the "HD-Enable" signal, so either the receiver is defective, or I just need to wait to see if maybe my receiver picks up the right bits...
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Foxbat
Okay, maybe one last post on this subject: After I've read about others' horror stories with strange charges to their accounts after Dish-n it Up, I looked at the recent charges on my account. It was interesting, to say the least. But, it was correct.

I had two Additional Receiver Access Fees added and three credited (correct, as there is a Leased Receiver fee now to replace the receiver fee.) There's three offsetting Dish Network DVR Service fees (adds and credits)(correct, I believe, since my 942's DVR fee should migrate to the ViP622.) The two days of HD Enabling cost me $0.20 ($7.16 added, $6.96 refunded).

Programming worked out as well: my annual AT120 had $298.00 to credit to my account, as well as $11.60 credited for the HD Pack and $5.80 for Voom Originals. With the $199.99 charged for the ViP622, I ended up with $563.24 worth of credits and $316.19 worth of charges against my account.

While I don't understand the multiple charges and credits for the same thing, at least they balanced out. I'll know some time in January when my next bill comes due whether the bill matches what I expect it should.
Foxbat
Foo! I have not one, but TWO boxes for the return of my 942 to Dish! Maybe that explains the additional receiver on/off in the activity report? Should I send the one back, empty?

BTW, the ViP211 is Very Nice.:up As much of an improvement over the 811 as the 811 was over the 6000/8PSK/8VSB. The biggest improvement I've noticed is no problems returning to satellite channels after 1+ hour of watching OTA digital stations. Plus, as 811 and 6000 owners know, the clock on those receivers would slowly lose time the longer you watched OTA. So far, the ViP211 is right on time.
Foxbat
Ah, one last hiccup in the grand scheme of things: Since I was an annual AT120 customer, when I converted to the DishHD Silver package, I had enough credit on my account that I won't be billed for the next three months.

What's the problem with that, you ask? Well, you need to send in a billing statement showing DishHD on your account when you apply for the $100 Back Rebate. Since I converted to paperless billing oh so long ago, I would need to print out my billing statement from the on-line system. The only problem is that Dish's system is programmed to not generate an on-line statement if you do not need to pay them!

By the time I can gain access to my on-line billing statement, it will be beyond the 60 days that I have to apply for the $100 Back Offer, effectively negating this benefit of upgrading to DishHD and ViP receivers.

I have sent an e-mail to the person who followed up with me about the horrible CSR experience, so I hope that I will get this added without too much drama, but I'm halfway through the 60 days now since I had to wait for the next billing cycle.
Former member 501
Ah, one last hiccup in the grand scheme of things: Since I was an annual AT120 customer, when I converted to the DishHD Silver package, I had enough credit on my account that I won't be billed for the next three months.

What's the problem with that, you ask? Well, you need to send in a billing statement showing DishHD on your account when you apply for the $100 Back Rebate. Since I converted to paperless billing oh so long ago, I would need to print out my billing statement from the on-line system. The only problem is that Dish's system is programmed to not generate an on-line statement if you do not need to pay them!

By the time I can gain access to my on-line billing statement, it will be beyond the 60 days that I have to apply for the $100 Back Offer, effectively negating this benefit of upgrading to DishHD and ViP receivers.

I have sent an e-mail to the person who followed up with me about the horrible CSR experience, so I hope that I will get this added without too much drama, but I'm halfway through the 60 days now since I had to wait for the next billing cycle.

You can request they send you one anyway which will show the Charges and credtis, but not I think from Online.
Foxbat
Well, I guess the good news about the programming price increases means I'll get a bill next month instead of floating another month.

I'm still waiting for Dish to contact me regarding this billing situation.

Update: Dish is sending me a paper copy of my current bill, waving the $2.00 charge :up for printing one up because of my situation. Hopefully, it gets here in time (some bad luck with the Post Offul lately).
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
sdfntx
Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
long_time_Dish
(They Long To Be) Close To You -The Carpenters
Lon.TV
Last reply · posted in Lon.TV
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R
Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
TRG
TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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TWiT Tech Podcast Network
· posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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K
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
K
Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
4364 Military Makeover Channel
K
Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
K
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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K
A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Jimbo
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
Y

That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
:devilish
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
J
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC