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Maybe I am old fashion or a nut but I believe in freedom of choice. I object very much to lawmakers telling me it is ok for me to buy porno, (not that I want to) anywhere in the country from a satellite. However, I have to live under a strict guidelines to buy the networks. If I don't meet these guidelines I am SOL no matter if I have any means to get them or not. Who cares the network affiliate can still use my name and address to sell advertisement to the local market. Everyone is going after dish. They are not the problem. It is the law that is. No I am not a dish lover I really hate them. As far as I am concern Charlie can take his lies and money grubbing someplace where it is very hot and never snows. The real problem is the law. We need two go to war to get rid of the law and restore the right of choice. We can't fight the networks they are way to big. The best way to attack the networks is through their affiliates. Think about it. One reason this law has so much teeth who, just who knows about it except the people who want or need the satellites to receive the networks. Think back to the c band days and primetime 24. Who but us knew about it. That is how they got away with this. The networks are not going to cover the story of Dish and the courts. They do not want this to see the light of day. They don't want the country to know how they bought off congress to control our viewing and pad the pockets of their affiliates. Now the war. My one and only affiliate is NBC. The GM would not give me a wavier ,he wanted his control and he did not care that my picture was more snow than anything else. He just wanted my name to sell. That my friend is how we fight them. We go after the affiliate's advertisers. No not the big ones like Honda, Proctor and Gamble, ect. We go after the local people who advertise with the affiliate. Especially the business who advertise during the news which is the big money. An NOT with guns of course. We boycott them . We picket them. We let them know we are going to bother them until they stop advertising with the affiliate. My affiliate is in a small town and I am reasonably sure this tactic will work. The reason they are advertising is they want more business not less. I don't know about the bigger markets. That may be the way to go is attack the affiliates that are in small towns. Who knows if we can get lucky maybe the newspapers will start to pick up the story. We can educate the country of how our right of choice is taken off of us by the networks. With the political climate the way it is now, maybe congress will see the error of their ways and give us our right of choice back. Or of course we can sit back a cry and whine and take what ever scraps the networks will give us, and complain it is everyone's fault but ours'.
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I'll make this simple. Go ask Dish Network to sign a contract with KCBS to deliever nationally. The only contract Dish Network has is to deliver KCBS locally.

Freedom of choice. It also belongs to the TV stations.
Y
IF FCC would require all stations in a DMA to supply a class A signal to 100% of the DMA. This would solve the problem instead of low powered stations that can't get a class A signal 20 miles in a DMA that is 400 x 200 sq. miles.
odbrv
IF FCC would require all stations in a DMA to supply a class A signal to 100% of the DMA. This would solve the problem instead of low powered stations that can't get a class A signal 20 miles in a DMA that is 400 x 200 sq. miles.

One quarter of our town is in a canyon, about 100 homes. We are only 13 miles from the transmission towers. The town has offered all local networks the use of its water tower to put equipment so that the people in the canyon can have OTA local TV. No network has ever taken the offer. There is no cable here either. The cable companies said "too costly to run wires". So we have Satellite tv. The Government that did not require the local stations to deliver their signal to everyone in their broadcast area are now requiring E* to spend money to buy equipment to deliver these same stations. Seems like that Government has lost its way and should solve the original problem. Require the locals to serve all its area or lose its right to a monopoly in the area.
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One quarter of our town is in a canyon, about 100 homes. We are only 13 miles from the transmission towers. The town has offered all local networks the use of its water tower to put equipment so that the people in the canyon can have OTA local TV. No network has ever taken the offer. There is no cable here either. The cable companies said "too costly to run wires". So we have Satellite tv. The Government that did not require the local stations to deliver their signal to everyone in their broadcast area are now requiring E* to spend money to buy equipment to deliver these same stations. Seems like that Government has lost its way and should solve the original problem. Require the locals to serve all its area or lose its right to a monopoly in the area.


Uh, you know the city could purchase repeaters that are not that costly in the grand scheme and install them themselves if it was that big of a deal.

You seem to forget that the FAA for example and the tree huggers dictate where Towers can be built and how tall they can be. They are not usually in the best Geographical location.
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I'll make this simple. Go ask Dish Network to sign a contract with KCBS to deliever nationally. The only contract Dish Network has is to deliver KCBS locally.

Freedom of choice. It also belongs to the TV stations.

You know as well as anyone else that KCBS cannot sign a deal to distribute CBS Programming Nationwide as they are granted the rights to copyrighted material in a certain geographical location only - not nationwide.

This is true of not only their Network Programming from CBS, but syndicated programming as well.

The only thing they have the right to sale nationally is their News and Local programming.
T
You know as well as anyone else that KCBS cannot sign a deal to distribute CBS Programming Nationwide as they are granted the rights to copyrighted material in a certain geographical location only - not nationwide.

This is true of not only their Network Programming from CBS, but syndicated programming as well.

The only thing they have the right to sale nationally is their News and Local programming.

Now think carefully about what you said and extrapolate to the DNS issue at large.
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As I have said multiple times, KCBS can sell local programming to the satellite companies today. That is outside of the realm of DNS. They just have to be blacked out when the copyrighted material comes on - no different than watching ESPN for certain sporting events.

This can be seen in Palm Springs for example, where they have the local Palm Springs and some L.A. locals - but it goes to infomericals when the Network Programming is on - and only available on the local Palm Springs Station.

Even in Salina Kansas, they have the stations from Wichita and Topeka (each about 100 miles away) on cable - but once the copyrighted material comes on, I believe it's Topeka gets cut off.

If all you want is the local news and programming - thats doable - though the systems are not in place via satellite for the most part to get it done.

It's exactly what Significantly viewed stations are all about.
hhkr
Maybe its time to start thinking about just boycotting local networks and ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX completely. I did for 30 years at my present location. Then Dish allowed me the local distants in SF since 1999. For the first time I had locals.

I finally got all four channels in HD from SF and for the first time I felt good about watching local tv. Now they are all gone and in their place I have the NPS programming that is very hard to see on my tv. The SF stations look like they are taking them from ota receivers using rabbit ears looking like they are getting them from the tv tower in SF complete with the local ghosting. The picture is blurry and almost unwatchable on my favorite channels.

Hopefully they will get those uplinks in SF fixed so they are watchable, but I'm not holding my breath.

Maybe its time to just pull the plug and quit watching locals at all.
C
Uh, you know the city could purchase repeaters that are not that costly in the grand scheme and install them themselves if it was that big of a deal.

Huh? That makes no sense. You're advocating the government REBROADCAST (at no charge except for the tax dollars used to buy and maintain repeaters) but somehow DISH can't rebroadcast (with a fee collected and paid to the stations) because of government regulations/interference?
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Huh? That makes no sense. You're advocating the government REBROADCAST (at no charge except for the tax dollars used to buy and maintain repeaters) but somehow DISH can't rebroadcast (with a fee collected and paid to the stations) because of government regulations/interference?

Dish broke the law.

That's life.

Why do you think some cities have their own CATV system and WiFi networks.

If your Canyon of 100 people had 1 doctor who broke the law and lost his license - and could not practice medicine any longer - is it your contention that he should be allowed to continue practicing medicine because he was the only one?

Again, that's life.

If its important to the 100 people, then make your voice heard where it can be fixed at your local government and have them install you repeaters.

A repeater for 100 people isnt worth it for any private venture.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
:devilish
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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ClarkGable
Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
sdfntx
Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
J
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
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· posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers
The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.

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KAB
KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in Movie Talk
Not a bit surprised.

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