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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Yeah Direct Tv playing dirty ball here I think their just jealous that Dish is gaining on them. So right now it seems they will do anything to slow Dish down so if folks want to point the finger well its just not all on Dish's end.



http://www.forbes.com/global/2006/1211/038.html?partner=yahoomag


Rupert Murdoch finds a way to knock out satellite service to U.S. customers of rival Charles Ergen's EchoStar.

On Dec. 1 EchoStar (NASDAQ: DISH - news - people ) will be required to slash national network programming to an estimated 900,000 satellite customers in mostly rural areas in the U.S. Overnight they could lose Desperate Housewives, Dancing with the Stars and every version of CSI.

If those viewers are upset, imagine how Charles Ergen feels. He's the chief executive of EchoStar who stands to lose millions of dollars in revenue, not to mention a bit of his ego. That's because the hidden hand behind the cutoff is Ergen's longtime nemesis Rupert Murdoch, who controls satellite competitor DirecTV and runs Fox Broadcasting.

At issue in this long-running battle is something called "distant network signals." EchoStar, with 12.8 million customers, and DirecTV, with 15.6 million customers, offer local broadcasts in some 170 markets in the U.S. If viewers live outside those markets and can't get their local stations using an old-fashioned TV antenna, the satellite companies are legally allowed to sell them feeds from New York or Los Angeles.

But the broadcasters accuse EchoStar of selling distant signals to customers even if they can receive local stations. They don't like that because every viewer in Provo, Utah who is watching Survivor from a Los Angeles CBS affiliate is missing the advertising on the Provo affiliate.

Ergen has taken a liberal view of the law for years, betting he could win in court. But in May a federal appeals court ordered EchoStar to cut off all distant network signals, even though only an estimated 25% of affected customers receive the signals illegally. Ergen settled with stations owned by ABC, NBC and CBS and affiliates, agreeing to pay them $100 million to let him continue offering distant signals.

But 25 Fox-owned-and-operated stations refused to agree to the deal, which killed the entire settlement. A News Corp. spokesman says that the company saw no reason to settle and denied that Murdoch's 40% ownership of DirecTV had anything to do with Fox avoiding the deal.

Media research firm the Carmel Group estimates that if all 900,000 customers switched to DirecTV, EchoStar would lose $700 million per year, and Murdoch would gain the same amount. The company says it doubts it will lose anywhere near that number.

The two media titans have been duking it out since 1997, when Murdoch backed out of a deal to buy EchoStar. Six years later Murdoch gained the upper hand with his $6.6 billion purchase of DirecTV just one year after the feds rejected Ergen's bid to buy the rival company.

Ergen can find solace knowing that Murdoch's days of antagonizing him may be coming to end. Murdoch is poised to trade his stake in DirecTV to yet another media mogul, John Malone. Other speculation suggests that in a few years Malone will also try to scoop up EchoStar, allowing both Murdoch and Ergen to finally retire quietly to their corners.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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ClarkGable
Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
sdfntx
Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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comfortably_numb
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
:devilish
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
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dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
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J
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
T
· posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers
The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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S
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.

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KAB
KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in Movie Talk
Not a bit surprised.

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