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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
December 4, 2006


Dear Mr Malamute <----- :D :

Thank you for writing me about access to distant broadcast signals
on your satellite system. I appreciate hearing from you.

Federal laws clearly state when satellite companies are allowed to
provide viewers with a distant network signal (i.e. the NBC
Chicago affiliate) instead of the local network signal (i.e. the NBC
Marquette affiliate). These laws are in place to protect the viewer
base of local broadcasters. Without a strong viewer base, local
broadcasters cannot afford to create the local news and other
programming that communities count on.

For the last eight years, EchoStar, which operates the Dish
Network, and broadcasters have been embroiled in litigation over
whether the Dish Network violated the distant network signals law.
Last year a federal court found that the Dish Network had been
sending distant network signals to hundreds of thousands of its
customers illegally. Because the Dish Network engaged in what
the court called a "pattern or practice" of illegal behavior across
many parts of the country, the court ordered the Dish Network to
stop providing distant network signals to any of its subscribers.
December 1, 2006 is the date the order became effective. The
order does not affect cable or subscribers with other satellite
service.

Congress must not reward companies that violate the law. I
recognize that the court order will affect hundreds of thousands of
subscribers who are receiving distant network signals. Distant
network signals are particularly important in rural areas, such as
Northern Michigan, where there is no local broadcaster or where
the satellite company has not yet made the technology upgrades
necessary to offer the local network signal in that area.

I am working with my colleagues in Congress to encourage all
parties to come to an agreement that will allow Dish Network to
continue to provide distant network signals to those households. I
understand your frustration and will continue to urge these private
corporations to resolve this situation. Simply put, the Courts and
Congress can no longer ignore Dish Network's repeated violations
of federal law.

Constituents affected by the loss of distant network signals on the
Dish Network may have several alternative options to view
broadcast television, including cable, another satellite service, or
over-the-air, with an antenna.

Thank you again for contacting me about this issue. Please
continue to contact me with issues of concern to you.
Sincerely,

BART STUPAK
Member of Congress


BTW... we dont get chicago NBC here.... We have to file for waivers... all others we do qualify for. :)
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J
Will somone explain to me how we managed to get our Dallas/Ft. Worth stations taken away when we live within that market area? We did not have to sign a waiver, we have not ever received any so-called distant network stations, nor do we want to. But we do now, just to get the Fox and ABC stations that were taken away. We have to go through All American Direct and now get San Francisco and Atlanta. We don't want news and weather from those areas, they aren't even in our time zone! Why did we lose our DFW stations when we live less than an hour away and we are still considered their serviceable market area? And just for the record, we can not put up an aerial antenna, that would do us no good based on several different factors. I checked. This is ridiculous.
Neutron
I've always found it odd why Sherman, TX needs it's own DMA with those counties in Oklahoma. Sherman isn't that large of a city. Surely it could be in the DFW market.

Heck, Grayson county is the county north of where I live! :)
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Rep. Dennis Moore 3rd Congression Dist of KS

I got the same letter that everyone else got. Can't the congress people be more original? They must have some heat on them from all of the phone calls. They have to say something even though it's not what we want to hear.
whatchel1
You are in the Sherman TX area

Will somone explain to me how we managed to get our Dallas/Ft. Worth stations taken away when we live within that market area? We did not have to sign a waiver, we have not ever received any so-called distant network stations, nor do we want to. But we do now, just to get the Fox and ABC stations that were taken away. We have to go through All American Direct and now get San Francisco and Atlanta. We don't want news and weather from those areas, they aren't even in our time zone! Why did we lose our DFW stations when we live less than an hour away and we are still considered their serviceable market area? And just for the record, we can not put up an aerial antenna, that would do us no good based on several different factors. I checked. This is ridiculous.

You no longer qualify for DFW due to the fact that dish now has locals from the "Sherman, Tx " area. They are KXII TV 12 (CBS) Sherman, TX (E* ch 7521), KTEN TV 10 (NBC) Ada, OK(E* ch 7522) , & KXII TV 12.3 (Fox) Sherman, TX (Channel 20)(E* ch 7523). Sorry there is now ABC listed for the area but maybe you could get the Atlanta. It won't have local news but is the same time zone.
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I've always found it odd why Sherman, TX needs it's own DMA with those counties in Oklahoma. Sherman isn't that large of a city. Surely it could be in the DFW market.

Heck, Grayson county is the county north of where I live! :)


For whatever reason, it was the choice of the people within that County of where they watched TV. Perhaps there is more local news instead of getting buried in the Dallas-Ft. Worth Stations newscasts that most likely do not even cover Grayson county news.
H
You no longer qualify for DFW due to the fact that dish now has locals from the "Sherman, Tx " area. They are KXII TV 12 (CBS) Sherman, TX (E* ch 7521), KTEN TV 10 (NBC) Ada, OK(E* ch 7522) , & KXII TV 12.3 (Fox) Sherman, TX (Channel 20)(E* ch 7523). Sorry there is now ABC listed for the area but maybe you could get the Atlanta. It won't have local news but is the same time zone.

On what planet is Dallas and Atlanta in the same time zone?
dishcomm
I got the same letter that everyone else got. Can't the congress people be more original? They must have some heat on them from all of the phone calls. They have to say something even though it's not what we want to hear.
you're surprised?...Do you have any idea how many people actually take the time to excercise, "write you congressman"..Tons...I would imagine each Senator or Rep has a form letter stored on staff computers ..when they get enough gripes on a specific issue they staff simply changes a few words on the letter and sends it out..Of course many people actually think that our Rep or Sen actually took time to respond to his constiuence...
i have read published stories that inidacte what heppens when an envelope arrives on the desk of US Rep or Senator...The staff memeber hold the envelope up to a bright light.If the envelope appears to contain a check, the staff member forwards it ot the elected official open it..If not, they throw the envelope away sight unseen...
Of course this is a cynical view of the Beltway...But ya know what I read and I keep myself informed..I am seeing a govt that is non responsive to the wishes of the people ....
J
I've always found it odd why Sherman, TX needs it's own DMA with those counties in Oklahoma. Sherman isn't that large of a city. Surely it could be in the DFW market.

Heck, Grayson county is the county north of where I live! :)
I loked at the DMA map and why they stuck Grayson County in with the counties in Oklahoma is beyond me. All the other counties surrounding Grayson are in the DFW DMA. We used to live in Cooke County and Dish provided the DFW stations to us there for free. Virtually no difference in the distance or area we were in from Dallas. But the DMAs are all about advertising dollars and Neilsen ratings, it is where the rankings come from (DFW #6, Sherman/Ada #161). How stupid is this? As in most things, the consumer loses their freedom of choice because someone's pockets aren't stuffed enough, they want more and more.
J
On what planet is Dallas and Atlanta in the same time zone?
Thanks, I wasn't going to say anything, but just to let everyone know....Atlanta is Eastern Time Zone and Dallas is Central Time Zone, San Francisco is Pacific. So the Atlanta station I now end up getting is one hour AHEAD of me in the Dallas area and the San Francisco station I have ended up with is now 2 hours BEHIND me. Yes, some networks do use time delay and do broadcast network programming simultaneously for time zones, but that is generally Eastern/Pacific, not Eastern/Central.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
:devilish
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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ClarkGable
Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
sdfntx
Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
J
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
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· posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers
The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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S
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.

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KAB
KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in Movie Talk
Not a bit surprised.

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