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jgoldsmith

Last reply Dec 7, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Why doesn't everyone just 'move'?

Hi All,

I've been coming to this forum for the last week trying to get info on this DNS issue. I was hoping to find a magic solution, but no such luck so far...

So, here's a stupid question (and please no throwing of tomatoes!), what's preventing me from just "moving" my service address to NYC if that's where I want to get my DNS from? I understand that some DMAs are now spotbeamed and so you can't get them if your dish physically isn't in the place you're claiming it is, but I don't think NYC is spotbeamed. Is it? What's the flaw to this plan?

Also, where's a link to a map to see these "white areas" I keep hearing about?

Thanks!
JAG

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rdinkel

Dec 6, 2006

jgoldsmith said:
Hi All,

What's the flaw to this plan?

Thanks!
JAG

To some of us, honesty and integrity are too important to trade for TV signals--even though we would really like to have HD networks!

waltinvt

Dec 7, 2006

rdinkel said:
To some of us, honesty and integrity are too important to trade for TV signals--even though we would really like to have HD networks!

Good point Bob.
In a weak moment, when angry over the whole mess, I almost went the "move" route. Even had a nice person in this list willing to help me "do it right".

I mentioned it to my wife and she "woke me up". Is it really worth being dishonest about? I'd eventually have to explain these new channels to my kids and other family members.

Granted, in light of what most people consider "acceptable" today, this doesn't seem like a big deal - but actually it is.

How can I expect and insist on fair treatment from those in control of providing television signals (congress, FCC, NAB / affiliates) if I'm not willing to be fair about receiving them?

downriver

Dec 7, 2006

waltinvt said:
Good point Bob.
In a weak moment, when angry over the whole mess, I almost went the "move" route. Even had a nice person in this list willing to help me "do it right".

I mentioned it to my wife and she "woke me up". Is it really worth being dishonest about? I'd eventually have to explain these new channels to my kids and other family members.

Granted, in light of what most people consider "acceptable" today, this doesn't seem like a big deal - but actually it is.

How can I expect and insist on fair treatment from those in control of providing television signals (congress, FCC, NAB / affiliates) if I'm not willing to be fair about receiving them?

I went to a great deal of trouble to obtain waivers 10 years ago. It was not easy even then.

Somebody's computer says we can receive an ota signal. You would literally need to move mountains for us to obtain a signal with an antenna.

I can now get a spotbeam of the Eugene, OR network affiliates. for some reason the signal is not too good. I really don't want the Eugene locals. As someone pointed out in another thread, it's not local. it's a hundred miles from here.

We have a flawed law here that needs to be changed.

All's fair in love and war............... and TV!!!!

goldengoose

Dec 7, 2006

downriver said:
I went to a great deal of trouble to obtain waivers 10 years ago. It was not easy even then.

Somebody's computer says we can receive an ota signal. You would literally need to move mountains for us to obtain a signal with an antenna.

I can now get a spotbeam of the Eugene, OR network affiliates. for some reason the signal is not too good. I really don't want the Eugene locals. As someone pointed out in another thread, it's not local. it's a hundred miles from here.

We have a flawed law here that needs to be changed.

All's fair in love and war............... and TV!!!!

You could try Portland OR depending on where in Oregon or Washington -- it seems to reach around the NW states pretty far with a good signal due to their DMA spread. I've gotten them in my RV in various parts of the state.

Greg Bimson

Dec 7, 2006

jmnelms said:
Since we all have been paying extra to receive DNS, what has Dish done with the money? Who does it go to?

Except for a small copyright fee, the money goes directly to Dish Network.

Dish Network estimates approximately $3 million a month in pure revenue from distant networks. Because the amount of distant network subscribers has basically stayed the same, that equates to $180 million over the past five years.

Pure profit. And Dish Network doesn't even have to pay the networks nor their local affilates a dime.

jmnelms

Dec 7, 2006

Greg Bimson said:
Except for a small copyright fee, the money goes directly to Dish Network.

Dish Network estimates approximately $3 million a month in pure revenue from distant networks. Because the amount of distant network subscribers has basically stayed the same, that equates to $180 million over the past five years.

Pure profit. And Dish Network doesn't even have to pay the networks nor their local affilates a dime.

So what is the point of us paying extra if they don't pass those fees along to the networks and affliates in those markets? Then if that is the case, they have been profiting off of their subscribers under the false pretense of " you have to pay extra because we have to pay extra to give this to you" . Well, now I am really pissed. They should have to give all the money back as fines, plus interest. We have already made the appointment to switch our service to the only other choice we have, the one cable provider in town. We may hate it and after the 6 month contract is up may decide to do something else, but again, we have very limited choices here. What a racket this is.

Hall

Dec 7, 2006

jmnelms said:
Then if that is the case, they have been profiting off of their subscribers under the false pretense of " you have to pay extra because we have to pay extra to give this to you".

I don't know that Dish has ever stated that (in the case of distants), though it's certainly the case for MOST channels. In this situation, they can respond that they're providing you a "service" and there's a cost associated with delivering it to you. No pay, no service.

jmnelms

Dec 7, 2006

hall said:
I don't know that Dish has ever stated that (in the case of distants), though it's certainly the case for MOST channels. In this situation, they can respond that they're providing you a "service" and there's a cost associated with delivering it to you. No pay, no service.

No, I am sure there is no statement to that effect. And of course, this is a pay for fee service, obviously. But, if Dish knew that this was an issue, perhaps they could have taken some of that money and paid for the rights to broadcast those signals outside their normal areas. Maybe we wouldn't have lost our DNS. My DNS was Dallas, less than an hour from me.

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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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harshness said:
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sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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