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catonite

Last reply Dec 20, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Off air antenna with dish dvr 622

I have Dish network with a 622 dvr and I have lost my distance network channels and I am not in an area to get local channels through Dish. When I go to All American Direct or to DirectTv to see if I qualify to get distant networks from them they say that I can get the signal using an antenna so I wouldn't qualify. So I feel the antenna is my only choice. (I do not have cable offered in my area) I am not familiar with antennas and I wondered if anyone had suggestions what to look for or what are the best. I am not sure if an inside or outside is better. My other question is it looks like I hook the antenna up to the 622 dvr receiver. Can I use the dvr to record the off antenna channels that I pick up? I wondered if anyone has gone with this option. I am not sure if I trust Dish to hook up the free antenna that they are offering. Thanks for your feedback and help.

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navychop

Dec 8, 2006

mlburks

Please reread my post #18.

The 625 is not an ATSC receiver: "it will feed the analog signal to your TV just like the TV had the antenna directly connected" - it will not tune the channels, it will pass them. There will be some degradation of the signal, but this is usually not significant. The advantage of putting the OTA antenna on the 625 (rear panel, input labeled "TV antenna/cable IN") is that you only need one line feeding your TV. "(Y)ou will NOT be able to record the analog OTA signals on the DVR, since the signal is analog, not digital- it only records satellite digital signals."

Are you connecting the 625 to the TV with coax, from the output labeled "TV CH 3-4 out?" Since you have a 625 and not a ViP622, I assume you are trying to receive analog (NTSC) OTA stations, not digital (ATSC) stations, and that you have an analog and not a digital TV. Please correct me if I misunderstand your plans. I have my 721 connected in this manner- antenna to 721 to NTSC OTA DVR to TV. Cuts down on cables and minimizes switching inputs.

I you want to record OTA to the 625, or convert ATSC signals to NTSC to watch on an old analog TV, you need a ViP622, not a 625.

kayefpee

Dec 16, 2006

Hi all! Maybe this isn't quite the right spot, but I do have a 622 and am just now experimenting with OTA signal. Yesterday an installer came out to my place and sure enough I can get one channel (with three sub channels) off a UHF from a tower 30 miles away in Marquette, MI. However, in the brief time I was testing I noticed I'm getting pillars (left and right bars) and letterbox for SD daytime television on my Sony 32" 4:3 CRT, which is supposed to compress scan lines for HD. I have HD programming from Dishnetwork and have my 622 configured to 4:3 #2 (for TVs that compress) and 480p; 720p and 1080i work with 4:3#1 (non-compressed), but my SD programming is stretched or squashed, and the menus are compressed into the letterbox size. When I have it set to 4:3 #2 and 480p, the menus are in the 4:3 space and everything, HD and SD, work fine.

My question, before I invest hundred$ into a UHF antenna, is this correctable or something that is typical, particularly for SD subchannel broadcasts? Guess I had better call the broadcaster. Funny, but the other two subchannels (NBC Weather and The Tube) don't have the same problem and show full screen in 4:3.

The installer guessed that the situation may change when the broadcaster transmits HD, at which time, the other two subchannels may go away. Any ideas, including "start a new thread"?

Oh by the way, no program guide, at least for the short time I had a signal.

gdarwin

Dec 16, 2006

How do you have the 622 connected to the Sony?

kayefpee

Dec 16, 2006

gdarwin said:
How do you have the 622 connected to the Sony?

They're connected by HDMI now. They were connected by component. It had the same problem and required settings with component as HDMI for SD and HD off-satellite viewing. I have not had a chance to test the pillar box problem with OTA setup with component yet.

I did save a recorded program from OTA (daytime, non-HD) which I have replayed repeatedly at different HD setups using the 622 because of the pillarbox and letterbox (i.e., both) problem. There is only one menu setup choice on my TV, Sony KV-32HS510 (32" 4:3); the TV's "16:9 Enhanced" mode is set to Auto (when it's set to On, it's overly compressed on HD).

MLBurks

Dec 19, 2006

navychop said:
mlburks

Please reread my post #18.

The 625 is not an ATSC receiver: "it will feed the analog signal to your TV just like the TV had the antenna directly connected" - it will not tune the channels, it will pass them. There will be some degradation of the signal, but this is usually not significant. The advantage of putting the OTA antenna on the 625 (rear panel, input labeled "TV antenna/cable IN") is that you only need one line feeding your TV. "(Y)ou will NOT be able to record the analog OTA signals on the DVR, since the signal is analog, not digital- it only records satellite digital signals."

You were right. They came and hooked the "roof antenna" straight onto the dish on my roof making my dish look like a sort of Batmobile. It plugs straight into my TV. So I have to hit the input button to see those channels. And in my case that means one channel with many ghosts dancing on the screen. So I go from the S-Video hook up with DISH channels (great quality) to the same quality I had back in the 80's dancing with TV ghosts on one leg with rabbit ears.

Jordan420

Dec 20, 2006

catonite said:
I have Dish network with a 622 dvr and I have lost my distance network channels and I am not in an area to get local channels through Dish. When I go to All American Direct or to DirectTv to see if I qualify to get distant networks from them they say that I can get the signal using an antenna so I wouldn't qualify. So I feel the antenna is my only choice. (I do not have cable offered in my area) I am not familiar with antennas and I wondered if anyone had suggestions what to look for or what are the best. I am not sure if an inside or outside is better. My other question is it looks like I hook the antenna up to the 622 dvr receiver. Can I use the dvr to record the off antenna channels that I pick up? I wondered if anyone has gone with this option. I am not sure if I trust Dish to hook up the free antenna that they are offering. Thanks for your feedback and help.

Have you gone over to AVS like I recommended in post #9?
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=743419&postcount=9

Please do some research before you waste any more $$$

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Lon.TV

Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in Lon.TV

Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..

Time for another AWESOME video from Lon Seidman of LON.TV!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dViecB76yco

Direct YouTube Link - Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..
The Official LON.TV Website
Lon on Facebook

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Redbullsnation

Today at 12:06 PM

Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

TRG

14 minutes ago

So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

b4pjoe

9 minutes ago

TRG said:
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

At least for a couple more years

TWiT Tech Podcast Network

35 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

MacBreak Weekly 1050

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWSGgxnUklA

Direct YouTube Link - MacBreak Weekly 1050
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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jamieh1

Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid

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KyL416

Sep 9, 2026

Now live:
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KyL416

Sep 22, 2026

Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
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KyL416

Oct 6, 2026

Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342

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KyL416

Oct 20, 2026

KyL416 said:
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
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It only took them 41 days to announce it

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KyL416

Oct 29, 2026

Now testing:
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KyL416

47 minutes ago

A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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cp2k

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

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osu1991

Yesterday at 9:28 PM

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cp2k

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:23 PM

cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

osu1991

Yesterday at 11:03 PM

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Yespage

Today at 1:56 PM

meStevo said:
Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:47 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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ERSanders

Today at 10:52 AM

The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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navychop

Today at 11:09 AM

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Juan

Today at 11:35 AM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

Today at 11:35 AM

Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

Today at 12:47 PM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 11:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons

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Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins

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juventusbrown

Last reply Today at 11:33 AM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Satfaca

Today at 11:33 AM

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

Today at 10:25 AM

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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osu1991

Today at 10:44 AM

$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC

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ts27330

Today at 9:47 AM · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 23, 2026

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Oct 24, 2026

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 24, 2026

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Foxbat

Oct 24, 2026

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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