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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
...the Distant Networks fiasco to quit distracting DISH from their competitive advantage -- HD -- and that includes both national and local programing in HD.

While Charlie's DISH has been scrambling to recover from losing the distant networks legal wrestling match, Rupert's DirecTV has been gaining in the HD area by adding lots of HD locals. What a shrewd strategy -- get your competitor to spend nearly half a year trying not to anger/lose nearly a million subscribers (who are directly effected by the distant networks issue) and in the process anger/lose many other subscribers who just want Dish to provide the HD locals they were 'promised' earlier in the year -- Bloody brilliant !

IMHO you really can't claim to the the "HD leader" if you don't offer HD locals in at least as many areas as your competitor(s). The HD-channel-numbers-padding ZOOM channels become pretty (pun intended) weak once you see how repetitive their content is. So unless Charlie gets back in the game and begins adding the HD locals that were indefinitely postponed from the 2006 schedule, Dish will be #2 in everything -- except bravado and legal wrangling :(

Talon Dancer
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navychop
OTA is great for me.

Sorry you don't like VOOM. Yes, many of the channels appeal only to narrow groups- but they are serving those groups, more than D* is. And I like Equator A LOT.
gdarwin
Why would you want watered down HD from satellite when OTA is free and full bitrate???
G
I guess there are two factions here and each does not fully appreciate the other. Those who can get HD Locals OTA cannot understand why those who cannot are constatantly asking for it. Try to imagine not being able to view HD content on those channels that, in most cases, are your primary viewing channels. Here you are with this wonderful HD video equipment and are forced to watch SD content most of the time. Then there are the cans that are sitting there saying "OK, I have HD Locals OTA but I'm getting bored with just this and want more". The cannots only wish they were in that position.

I guess my point is: Don't jump all over the other guy just because he isn't in your same situation. Everyone has their priorities and each should be respected.

I personally, because of my geographic location, rely on Dish to provide local programming to me. Unfortunately, my market is not even being considered for HD as of this time. Those of you that have it either OTA or through dish should consider yourselves lucky and should sympathize with us that don't have it.
cosmo_kramer
HD RSNs
David Dietzel
True enough OTA HD is great.

If you can get it.

Lots of people turn to sat or cable because they can't get OTA anything, let alone HD content.

For example, I don't have line of sight to the transmission towers on Mt. Wilson so I must get all my content from Dish.

I grow tired of snobbish comments regarding the supposed ease of receiving OTA HD.

Dish is trying various compromises to get as much HD content into their pipeline as possible -- whether it's full locals in HD, or more HD on demand, or more HD PPV, or HD movies online ala Xbox 360, or more new HD channels as they come up.

I applaud Dish for its efforts and fully expect lots of good new from CES.
T
Why would you want watered down HD from satellite when OTA is free and full bitrate???
Well, we live in a narrow valley surrounded by 200' high hills over 50 miles from any local TV broadcast antennae. So OTA is not really an option. But obviously the suits at Dish agree with you or they would not be offering discounted OTA antennae for HD, even though many Dish subscribers can not get OTA without huge masts :(

BTW if we could get our locals OTA we would not have subscribed to Dish in the first place. We manged to live without anything but locals since TV was first broadcast :eek: So I'm fairly certain we could do it a few more years :)

Talon Dancer
rockymtnhigh
I guess there are two factions here and each does not fully appreciate the other. Those who can get HD Locals OTA cannot understand why those who cannot are constatantly asking for it. Try to imagine not being able to view HD content on those channels that, in most cases, are your primary viewing channels. Here you are with this wonderful HD video equipment and are forced to watch SD content most of the time. Then there are the cans that are sitting there saying "OK, I have HD Locals OTA but I'm getting bored with just this and want more". The cannots only wish they were in that position.

I guess my point is: Don't jump all over the other guy just because he isn't in your same situation. Everyone has their priorities and each should be respected.

I personally, because of my geographic location, rely on Dish to provide local programming to me. Unfortunately, my market is not even being considered for HD as of this time. Those of you that have it either OTA or through dish should consider yourselves lucky and should sympathize with us that don't have it.


And then there are those that have HD OTA, but the stations providing it are pathetic, don't broadcast in DD5.1; and generally do a lousy job. BUT I guess it is better than your situation, with NO OTA HD channels.
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Sorry you don't like VOOM. Yes, many of the channels appeal only to narrow groups- but they are serving those groups, more than D* is. And I like Equator A LOT.
Actually we do like/watch some of the VOOM channels, including Equator but...
We'd trade all of the VOOM channels for the our Locals in HD via satellite. Because we can not get them any other way :(

Talon Dancer
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
K
Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
4364 Military Makeover Channel
K
Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
K
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Jimbo
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20
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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
Y

That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
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The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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