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kirkdj

Last reply Dec 22, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Local HD Directv vs. Dish

Well I haven't been here in a while, and I was shocked to learn Directv is offering local HD channels in so many markets by years end! Which includes New Orleans for me

What is Dish doing to compete? Supplying people with free OTA antennas?

Please tell me I will get local HD soon with Dish? What is Dishes plan to compete...or do they have one?

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MikeD-C05

Dec 19, 2006

They are behind on HD locals but way ahead on Sd locals compared to Directv. Dish has 174 locals in sd out of 210 dmas. I don't know what the long range goal is on hd locals with DISH . I often wonder how they will keep adding both hd and sd on the same satellites unless they are planning on launching more spotbeam satellites. IF they did this on the replacement sat for the 129 location , which is to be launced in 2007, they could use all those spotbeams to do more hd locals. Same if they would use the 61.5 sat in spotbeam mode instead of conus mode.

TulsaCoker

Dec 20, 2006

That's my point on the Voom channels, everyone (like E*) likes to claim that E*has more National HD then anyone (which they do) but the majority of subs don't like the majority of the channels so it's a mute point. The Voom channels are the only reason E* has the lead on number of HD channels. The advantage of HD LiL is getitng the regional RSN's.

TulsaCoker

Dec 21, 2006

MikeD-C05 said:
They are behind on HD locals but way ahead on Sd locals compared to Directv. Dish has 174 locals in sd out of 210 dmas. I don't know what the long range goal is on hd locals with DISH . I often wonder how they will keep adding both hd and sd on the same satellites unless they are planning on launching more spotbeam satellites. IF they did this on the replacement sat for the 129 location , which is to be launced in 2007, they could use all those spotbeams to do more hd locals. Same if they would use the 61.5 sat in spotbeam mode instead of conus mode.

Ok Mike, Dish offers SD Local Channels to 95% of the viewers and DirecTv has 93% and you call that way ahead. On HD LiL Dish offers 50% where as DirecTV offers it to 74% of the TV market and you state Dish is behind. Interesting choice of words.

josem3

Dec 21, 2006

TulsaCoker said:
The advantage of HD LiL is getitng the regional RSN's.

I don't think so. I don't watch those RSN channels so why to add it and pay for it?
I believe the advantage of HD channels is to add most popular HD channels(when is available) so the majority of subcribers can enjoy.

Jose.

MikeD-C05

Dec 21, 2006

TulsaCoker said:
Ok Mike, Dish offers SD Local Channels to 95% of the viewers and DirecTv has 93% and you call that way ahead. On HD LiL Dish offers 50% where as DirecTV offers it to 74% of the TV market and you state Dish is behind. Interesting choice of words.

I didn't word that to be anything but the truth as I see it. DIsh does lead in sd locals in 174 markets which leaves about 38 more dmas to finish the country. I don't know how many cities that Directv has in hd but I do know that they lead Dish in hd locals. I don't know what Dish has in mind in regard to hd locals but they do have two sats at 61.5 sat and there are spotbeams on that old sat from Voom, which they could use to do more hd locals possibly. The 129 sat is supposed to be replaced in 2007 and if they were smart they would add a spotbeam sat up there in place of the weak one and add even more hd locals. But as I said do not know Dish's long range goal for hd locals. Directv has posted their hd locals plans for at least a year or more.

digiblur

Dec 21, 2006

MikeD-C05 said:
I didn't word that to be anything but the truth as I see it. DIsh does lead in sd locals in 174 markets which leaves about 38 more dmas to finish the country. I don't know how many cities that Directv has in hd but I do know that they lead Dish in hd locals. I don't know what Dish has in mind in regard to hd locals but they do have two sats at 61.5 sat and there are spotbeams on that old sat from Voom, which they could use to do more hd locals possibly. The 129 sat is supposed to be replaced in 2007 and if they were smart they would add a spotbeam sat up there in place of the weak one and add even more hd locals. But as I said do not know Dish's long range goal for hd locals. Directv has posted their hd locals plans for at least a year or more.

I believe it will be spotbeam capable but the problem is 129W is NOT E*'s slot. They will be leasing some of the capacity there. The launch is also 2008.

http://www.cielsatellite.ca/satellites.html

mdonnelly

Dec 21, 2006

digiblur said:
I believe it will be spotbeam capable but the problem is 129W is NOT E*'s slot. They will be leasing some of the capacity there. The launch is also 2008.

http://www.cielsatellite.ca/satellites.html

The site notes high frequency reuse, which I interpret as massive spotbeam capability. E* gets half the transponders from Ceil-2.

HDTVFanAtic

Dec 22, 2006

digiblur said:
I believe it will be spotbeam capable but the problem is 129W is NOT E*'s slot. They will be leasing some of the capacity there. The launch is also 2008.

http://www.cielsatellite.ca/satellites.html

And a quick count shows us that E* is currently using 75% of the transponder capacity on 129W, thus they will loose 33% of their transponders capacity - even though SOME transponders maybe be spotbeam in the future.

And given everyone's history with Satellites lately, I wonder if this will even make it into operation by 2007?

TulsaCoker

Dec 22, 2006

josem3 said:
I don't think so. I don't watch those RSN channels so why to add it and pay for it?
I believe the advantage of HD channels is to add most popular HD channels(when is available) so the majority of subcribers can enjoy.

Jose.

Well you don't pay anything extra for Local HD and RSN's. They are apart of the Local Channel package. Now when National HD are added you can bet there will be a price increase. That's when you will be paying for channels you may not watch.

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Lon.TV

Last reply 20 minutes ago · posted in Lon.TV

Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..

Time for another AWESOME video from Lon Seidman of LON.TV!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dViecB76yco

Direct YouTube Link - Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..
The Official LON.TV Website
Lon on Facebook

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Redbullsnation

Today at 12:06 PM

Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

TRG

25 minutes ago

So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

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b4pjoe

20 minutes ago

TRG said:
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

At least for a couple more years

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

46 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

MacBreak Weekly 1050

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWSGgxnUklA

Direct YouTube Link - MacBreak Weekly 1050
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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jamieh1

Last reply 58 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid

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KyL416

Sep 9, 2026

Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
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KyL416

Sep 22, 2026

Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
4364 Military Makeover Channel

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KyL416

Oct 6, 2026

Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342

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KyL416

Oct 20, 2026

KyL416 said:
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel

It only took them 41 days to announce it

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KyL416

Oct 29, 2026

Now testing:
AyM Sports 3 USA
Best Bets TV powered by VSiN
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CBS Sports HQ
Judge Judy

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KyL416

58 minutes ago

A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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cp2k

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

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osu1991

Yesterday at 9:28 PM

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cp2k

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:23 PM

cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

osu1991

Yesterday at 11:03 PM

View: https://x.com/nicoleauerbach/status/2119845930585493534?a=_FCm3YiL1xA3ITXQKks&s=61

Yespage

Today at 1:56 PM

meStevo said:
Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:47 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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ERSanders

Today at 10:52 AM

The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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navychop

Today at 11:09 AM

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Juan

Today at 11:35 AM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

Today at 11:35 AM

Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

Today at 12:47 PM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 11:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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ClarkGable

Today at 5:51 AM

Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons

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Don't Look Back - Boston

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Today at 10:03 AM

Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins

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Bobby

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Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans

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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile

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juventusbrown

Last reply Today at 11:33 AM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Satfaca

Today at 11:33 AM

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

Today at 10:25 AM

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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osu1991

Today at 10:44 AM

$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC

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ts27330

Today at 9:47 AM · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 23, 2026

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Oct 24, 2026

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 24, 2026

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Foxbat

Oct 24, 2026

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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