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skierrob

Last reply Dec 29, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Stretch, partial zoom, zoom, etc.

Here's a question to all of you with 16 x 9 Plasma TV's and VIP-622 systems.

Which aspect mode do you use when watching SD 4x3 content? Black bars, grey bars, stretch, partial zoom or zoom?

And do you output 1080i or 720P to your 1024 x 768 42" plasma if that's what you have?

Also, if you use grey bars, do you still see a small black line on the right side of the screen before the grey bar begins? For some reason I do.

Just trying to find the best settings for a Plasma system.

Thanks,
Robert

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retorq

Dec 28, 2006

How will black bars have more of a chance to burn in then gray bars??

I too have an CRT RP and I watch with the black bars 90% of the time.

stuckingoo

Dec 28, 2006

Partial zoom for me on my 50" plasma. I was partial to the Directv h10 proportional stretch before I moved over to Dish. Unfortunately that is one zoom/stretch not available with Dish.

Tom Bombadil

Dec 28, 2006

retorq said:
How will black bars have more of a chance to burn in then gray bars??

I too have an CRT RP and I watch with the black bars 90% of the time.

Burn-in occurs when one area of the screen is used much more than another area. That's how bright game icons and symbols burn in, and how screen logos can burn-in. They burn down the phosphors of those areas.

The area within a black bar gets no use. So the 4:3 area with the image is burning that area down a bit. Eventually the 4:3 area will be slightly less bright than where the black bars are. At that point, every full-screen image will be slightly brighter on the ends. These can continue to worsen until it is very obvious all the time.

The whole purpose of the gray bars is an attempt to burn/wear down the sides at the same rate as the middle. It isn't perfect and you can still get some burn-in even when using the gray bars, but it will burn-in at a far slower rate than if you use black bars.

People with CRT rear projection sets and older plasmas should use black bars very sparingly. Newer plasmas don't burn as readily, but it is still wise to play it on the safe side.

Kaydigi

Dec 29, 2006

Black bars for 4:3 content letterboxed or not. A lot Dish SD looks terrible pillar boxed (ESPN and 2 SD lately) and looks horrific stretched or zoomed.

Tom Bombadil

Dec 29, 2006

I agree, stretched or zoomed SD looks terrible. There have been 5 or 6 threads on here from people getting new HDTVs and asking how to make the SD look better and I always pop in to say to not stretch or zoom it.

This is why I use the gray bars as much as I dare to with my CRT-RP.

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Linus Tech Tips

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Noob POV Build with Linus from LTT

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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Jensen Huang, NVIDIA, and the Alleged Foreign Spy #shorts

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Redbullsnation

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Simping never works

Lon.TV

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Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..

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Redbullsnation

Today at 12:06 PM

Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

TRG

57 minutes ago

So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

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b4pjoe

52 minutes ago

TRG said:
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

At least for a couple more years

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 2:22 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

MacBreak Weekly 1050

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jamieh1

Last reply Today at 2:10 PM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid

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KyL416

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Now live:
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342

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KyL416 said:
Now live:
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It only took them 41 days to announce it

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KyL416

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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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cp2k

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

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osu1991

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cp2k

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:23 PM

cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

osu1991

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Yespage

Today at 1:56 PM

meStevo said:
Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.

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ewindowman

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Last reply Today at 12:47 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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ERSanders

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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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Today at 11:09 AM

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Juan

Today at 11:35 AM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

Today at 11:35 AM

Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

Today at 12:47 PM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 11:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons

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juventusbrown

Last reply Today at 11:33 AM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Satfaca

Today at 11:33 AM

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

Today at 10:25 AM

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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osu1991

Today at 10:44 AM

$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC

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