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Installing OTA with DVR 625-Help

I'm relatively new to this so thanks for your help.

I am using a single DVR-625 in dual mode for 2 tv's in separate rooms. I would like to install an OTA antenna (Channel Master 4228) in my attic so that both tv's can access the antenna signal. Initially, I had planned to simply connect the antenna to the antenna input on the 625 but then only the primary tv can access the antenna signal and only when the receiver is powered off--correct? What is the best way to connect it so that I can view it from both tv's as easily as possible? Presently I don't have any switches installed. I had thought about using a splitter (2 GHz) or A/B switch box? Other ideas or suggestions?

Thank you!
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FredC
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Here is what I did with my 522, which is about the same as a 625.

I split the antenna coming in to 2 feeds, one for TV 1 and one for TV 2.
Plug the antenna into the antenna jack on your 625. TV 1 should now get OTA.

Take the cable coming out from TV 2 and use a "combiner". Basically a splitter backwards. The one I used (and works great) is from Channel Plus model 2512. You need a bi-directional, dc pass through combiner, 50-1000 MHz. which is what this is. Now you should have one cable coming from the output of TV2 that is Sat. going into the combiner, and one cable from your OTA going into the combiner, and one cable to your TV.

Whith this setup, I did not need an A/B switch or anything else. When the sat is off, I get perfect OTA on all the TVs hooked up to the TV 2 line.

I don't have the website, but the box has a 800 #. PM me and I'll be happy to give it to you, or try the web. Any bidirectional dc pass through combiner should work. I think it was about $3. Fred
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No problem, glad you found it. FYI, I use channel 35 to view Dish on TV 2 with this setup. You can go in and set-up what channel you want tv 2 to display on via TV 1 menu. Then just tune in to that channel and your set. Try to find a channel that doesn't get an OTA signal 2 channels either way (EG: in Chicago we get OTA channel 32 and nothing till channel 38, so I use 35). Good luck!
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FredC said:
No problem, glad you found it. FYI, I use channel 35 to view Dish on TV 2 with this setup. You can go in and set-up what channel you want tv 2 to display on via TV 1 menu. Then just tune in to that channel and your set. Try to find a channel that doesn't get an OTA signal 2 channels either way (EG: in Chicago we get OTA channel 32 and nothing till channel 38, so I use 35). Good luck!
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Do you mean that I should change the reception channel on tv 2? I think I'm currently on ch 73 (not sure, right now). Is there a reason I should change it?

Ke4est, thanks for the cable advice. I picked up some from Crutchfield along with my antenna: Arista 58-662 RG6 50-ft. RF Coaxial Cable w/F Plugs. Does this seem reasonable?
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I'm not sure exactly how your tv's are setup, but the reason I changed my Dish TV 2 to ch.35 was that my OTA channels my TV could receive stopped at channel 68. If you leave your TV 2 output to "cable" or channels higher then 70, you may need to switch your tv from the "antenna" mode to "cable" mode to view channel 73. In order to avoid that, I placed the Dish on a channel that my tv could use without switching to cable mode. Maybe you don't need to do this with your tv. Mine is an older one that only would view the channels above 68 if I switched the mode from "antenna" to "cable".
Either way will work, but this was easier for my folks and younger son to use the Dish. They simply start at any OTA channel and work their way to 35, then they get Dish. No switching from "antenna" to "cable" on the TV menu.
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FredC said:
I'm not sure exactly how your tv's are setup, but the reason I changed my Dish TV 2 to ch.35 was that my OTA channels my TV could receive stopped at channel 68. If you leave your TV 2 output to "cable" or channels higher then 70, you may need to switch your tv from the "antenna" mode to "cable" mode to view channel 73. In order to avoid that, I placed the Dish on a channel that my tv could use without switching to cable mode. Maybe you don't need to do this with your tv. Mine is an older one that only would view the channels above 68 if I switched the mode from "antenna" to "cable".
Either way will work, but this was easier for my folks and younger son to use the Dish. They simply start at any OTA channel and work their way to 35, then they get Dish. No switching from "antenna" to "cable" on the TV menu.
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Thank you for explaining it. I think that makes sense and sounds reasonable.

I tried installing the ChannelMaster 4228 today and I still couldn't get the distant channels I was hoping for (45 miles or so). I picked up the Terk5 antenna to compare the available closer chanels that I could compromise on to see if the two are comparable. If so, the installation will be a ton simpler since I won't have to deal with running coax behind the wall from the attic to the living room. I thought about using the amp with the CM 4228 but I don't want to spend the money (+-$65) if it isn't going to be much better. I'll let you know how it goes.
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I think cable 73 will show up on antenna mode on 22 but you might as well configure the modulator correctly.

UHF 37 is empty most everywhere, when picking channels you have to make sure you don't pick a digital channel, you can't see it on the analog sets but it will interfere with the modulated signal.
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FredC said:
Here is what I did with my 522, which is about the same as a 625.

I split the antenna coming in to 2 feeds, one for TV 1 and one for TV 2.
Plug the antenna into the antenna jack on your 625. TV 1 should now get OTA.

Take the cable coming out from TV 2 and use a "combiner". Basically a splitter backwards. The one I used (and works great) is from Channel Plus model 2512. You need a bi-directional, dc pass through combiner, 50-1000 MHz. which is what this is. Now you should have one cable coming from the output of TV2 that is Sat. going into the combiner, and one cable from your OTA going into the combiner, and one cable to your TV.

With this setup, I did not need an A/B switch or anything else. When the sat is off, I get perfect OTA on all the TVs hooked up to the TV 2 line.

I don't have the website, but the box has a 800 #. PM me and I'll be happy to give it to you, or try the web. Any bidirectional dc pass through combiner should work. I think it was about $3. Fred
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I got everything set up the way you recommended but I'm having a problem. TV1 works fine--when the receiver is off I get the OTA (i.e. channel 8). Unfortunately, TV2 is not receiving any OTA. The satellite is working on tv2 but the OTA is not. I turned off the tv2 tuner and tried my OTA channel 8 but I don't get anything. I'm running it through my vcr (which is set to channel 73) and I tried it with the vcr off, on, on ch 8 (my OTA channel) and on channel 73--all with the same results. The only signal I get is when the dish is on and the tv is on channel 3 with the vcr on 73.

Do you have any other suggestions? What am I missing?
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How things have changed

I was reading this article

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Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Two MLB teams.
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Two MLB teams.
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Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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I thought you might like that. :biggrin
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.
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The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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