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Last reply Feb 14, 2007 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Pansat 6000HXC setup help

It's been a few months back that I got the FTA bug. Slowly, when discretionary funds became available, I have purchased the components. Next week, I hope, the last pieces will get here. So next weekend I hope to be actually installing the system. The components are:
Pansat 6000HXC
Invacom QPH31
85cm DISH (skyvision)
STAB HH120
250' RG6 (run to the house 75')
F connectors
75 ohm terminators
DiSEqC switch 4x1 S-DS41C (Sadoun)
Splitters (one port power passing)

I have BUD experience only. But in my defense, I have had to break down and re-install the dish on three occasions (job relocations over the past 25 years). So I am not totally unfamilar with dish alignment (still just an amatuer though). My Bud is used with a 4DTV where I get my subscription channels. Both C-band an Ku.

From what I have already read, the alignment of the dish, motor mount, and post are identical to that of a large dish. Post must be absolutely plumb. Motor must be at it's zero point and adjusted for site latitude. Dish horizontaly aligned with the motor zero point. Dish elavation adjusted according to the declination correction. All aligned to true South. Since my meridian is 122.3 degees west longitude, G10R would be my SMS (a new acronym?) southern most satellite. It's almost dead on at 122.9 degrees west longitude.

I would like to thank all the people who have read this so far and are still reading. What you have just experienced is what we like to call the newbie effect. This is where we tell you all the things we think we know so you won't think we are complete dorks. If you have any strength left, hang on, because we are quickly coming to the things that I do not know. Legion, we are many. I'm old, I ramble. God bless President Roosevelt.

I planned on sitting up on the roof, next to the dish set up, with a small tv and the pansat reciever. It's nice on the roof. Beautiful view and quiet. Sorry.. sorry. A connection from a single liner output (Invacom QPH31) to the pansat 1 IF in. Coax from pansat tv out to the portable tv for alignment. Here is what I don't know or rather muddled about.

When I turn the pansat on for the first time I am assuming that the factory bins have already been loaded? If not how do I check.

If it has been loaded, what would be the menu selections I would need to select and modify to prepare to recieve a signal from G10R.

thank you for your patience,

plimzol

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Tron

Feb 3, 2007

I believe blind scan is called 'Smart Scan' or 'Smart Search' on all Pansats. Use that scanning option, it will find all transponders/channels, not just the ones preprogrammed into the box.

Always unplug your receiver when connecting or disconnecting switches and LNBFs. 22k should be off unless you're using a 22k switch. One option is to ditch the DiSEqC switch and use a 22k 4 x 4 multiswitch. This will switch between both polarities of C and L outputs, and feed up to four receivers (since the 6000 has two tuners it counts as two receivers).

Set the 4 x 4 switch up as follows: Connect the two linear outs from the Invacom to the 13v/0k and 18v/0k inputs of the 4 x 4. Connect the two circular outputs from the Invacom to the 13v/22k and 18v/22k inputs of the 4 x 4. One of the four 4 x 4 outputs will go to the LNB connector on the motor and then from the motor to your primary receiver. The other outputs will go straight to your other receivers (only one receiver can control the motor). Set circular sats as '22k on' in your receiver setup and linear to '22k off'. In this setup, DiSEqC would be off.

plimzol

Feb 5, 2007

Thank you Tron for your post. Once again I'm late to reply and for that I apoligize.

Finally made it out on Saturday before the big game to finish installing the dish. The previous weekend I installed the post and made sure it was perfectly plumb and solid (so it wouldn't flex with the weight of the dish and motor). With the pole up and ready to go I decided to determine the direction to true south ala Indiana Jones (requires the sun, a stick, a ball of string, and a minute of your time. The magic crystal is optional.) to draw a true south reference line on the ground from the pole. That done I completed assembling the dish, LNBF, and motor. All set to their zero point. I then adjusted the motor mount to my latitude. I adjusted the dish offset to the calculated value. I mounted the entire assembly onto the post and aligned everything horizontally to the true south reference line I created and drew on the ground. Connected a single linear output to the Pansat 6000hxc 1 IF in. Connected the TV out to a small portable TV. Switched everything on and hit menu on the pansat remote. Selected English from the menu. Selected Antenna setup and adjusted the setting to the recommended values (see Icebergs previous post to me this thread). Hit the sig button on the remote to active the audible tone. Was already recieveing a small value of signal strength but no quality value. Went to the Dish. Loosened the nuts that secure the dish offset value. Decreased the angle of the offset by a degree maybe less "WE HAVE TONE"! At this point it was a simple matter to adjust the offset to the greatest "QUALITY" value (up/down). And then adjusting twist (azimuth) right or left (very small movements), again keeping the QUALITY value as high as posible. When I figured I had it peaked as best I clould, I locked everything down and did a smart scan and there they were; all the FTA channels one should expect to see on G10r. This where I am at this moment.

Let me digress for a moment. My setup is a STAB HH120; 33" offset dish; Invacom QPH 31 (2 circular 2 linear standard outputs); Pansat 6000hxc reciever. My dish is aligned to my southern most satellite (G10r which is exactly my longitude, lucky me). To peak the dish I used a single linear output to the reciever; bypassing the motor. Getting in the 90's strength and 80's quality after a smart scan. I'm pretty sure I have it peaked. All the FTA channels that should be there, are there.
I now want to check how it tracks the clarke belt and the other satellites. I wish to try 119 first. It's a circular polorized satellite (correct me if I'm wrong). I have a 4x1 DiSEqC. Inputs labeled sat 1, sat2, sat3, sat4. I am only interested (for now) in a single circular and a single linear output. The other two will be terminated (75 ohm terminator). The connections, if I understand correctly, would be one circular output to sat1 and one linear output to sat2 (the other two will have the terminators attached). Out from the DiSEqC to the LNB connection on the STAB motor. On the STAB motor the REC connection goes to the 1 IF connection on the Pansat 6000hxc reciever.

Here is where I need help. I have read that the output from each LNB has to be identified by a tone burst (set on the reciever) in order for the reciever to recognize which output to use (circular or linear). I have looked thru the menus and find no such selection. Have I missed it? Or is this not required on the pansat 6000hxc. I understand that both circular and linear are standard outputs. The L.O. setting for the linear 10750. The L.O. setting for the circular 11250. Is this setting all the pansat requires to determine the correct intput?

This leads me to a second question. When I choose the method to use the dish motor, I can select either DiSEqC 1.2 or USALS. Which should I choose. Does one have advantages over the other.

plimzol

Das Hammer

Feb 5, 2007

plimzol said:
Is this setting all the pansat requires to determine the correct intput?

You need to tell it which diseqc port. If you want it to use the circular part of the lnbf, then you would setup 119 in the 6000's menu with diseqc value of 1 because the circular lnbf is connected to the diseqc switch at port 1. Tone burst is not applicable here.

This leads me to a second question. When I choose the method to use the dish motor, I can select either DiSEqC 1.2 or USALS. Which should I choose. Does one have advantages over the other.

plimzol

USALS is awesome if you have everything setup correctly. You'll input your lat and long into the USALS menu. From there, the pansat knows how far to turn the motor for ANY satellite in your visible arc (or within the physical limits of the motor). If you're sitting on 123 G10R now, just setup 119 with USALS (and diseqc port mentioned above) and tell it to use USALS. Do a scan and the motor should move spot on to 119. If it moves, but you're not on 119 then something is amiss.

With normal Diseqc 1.2, you have to manually move the motor with the remote to the right place (requires that you have a live TP entered into each bird you want so you know when you hit it) and then "Save" each position in the 6000's memory. There should be an option to do this in the 1.2 setup. It's been a while since I used a 6000 so I can't tell you how exactly to get there, but the principle is the same from receiver to receiver.

The HH120 is a good motor, moves a bit slower and has less rotation than the HH100, but never had a bit of trouble with mine.

plimzol

Feb 5, 2007

Thank you hammer!

plimzol

plimzol

Feb 14, 2007

Once again I'm late to reply. At least I'm consistant. More rain and job demands delayed my installation. Let me pick up the install where I left off.

I had aligned the motor/dish (both aligned to their zero points, dish declination set and motor set to latitude) to a true south reference line. By the way, reading my previous post, I think some people will think I'm joking about how I got the true south reference. I am not. If the sun is out, you can get a true south reference line (in the northern hemisphere). Accurate to within a degree with nothing more than a vertical stick and a ball of string. It has to do with what is call meridan passage or local apparent noon for all you mariners out there. If anybody is interested I would be happy to explain how to do it. It truly takes only a minute and you can throw away those mag compasses and variation charts. Why professional installers don't use this method on sunny days boggles the mind. I guess it dosen't look technical enough.

That said, with the connections as my previous post, I locked on to G10r. Now I'm ready ready to see if the motor and dish will track the rest of the satellites in the clarke belt. As per Das's recomendations, I powered down the system. Unplugged everything. Disconnected all previous connections. Now for the reconnect (I want both circular and linear polarized sat's).

Connected one linear output fron the Ivacom QPH 31 LNBF to the lnb(sat)1 connection on the 4x1 DiSEqC (SADOUN S-DS41c). Connected one circular output from the Invacom QPH 31 to the lnb(sat)2 connection on the 4x1 DiSEqC (SADOUN S-DS41C). Put 75 ohm terminators on the lnb(sat)3 and lnb(sat)4 connections on the 4x1 DiSEqC (SADOUN S-DS41C).

From the out on the 4x1 DiSEqC (SADOUN S-DS41C) I connected to the LNB connection on the STAB HH 120 motor. From the REC connection on the STAB HH 120 motor I connected to the 1 IF on the Pansat 6000HXC. And finally, from the TV OUT on the Pansat 6000HXC to the tv. Powered everthing up (holding breath).

G10r is still there. All previous scanned channels, still there. Just in case, or rather to save the position of G10r using USALS, (In antenna setup) I select G10r again, LNB power on, LNB Freq. 10750, 22KHz. OFF, TP Freq. 11720, DiSEqc port 1 (linear output fron the DiSEqc 4x1 is connected to lnb(sat)1), Motor USALS (at this point I had to enter my latitude and longitude; please remmember my longitude is the same as G10r for what follows). Pressed OK. No change. G10r is still there with all the expected channels. Satellite saved. Now for Echostar 7.

Return to the atenna setup. This time I select Echostar 7. Settings; LNB power ON, LNB type STANDARD, LNB Freq. 11250 (circular polarity), 22 KHz. OFF, TP Freq 12224, DiSEqC port 2 (circular output from the IVACOM QPH 31 connected to the lnb(sat)2 connection on the DiSEqC 4x1), Motor USALS (My Lat. Long. required). Patience...motor slews......slews.....slews.....slews.....slews....LOCK ON!! 93% "QUALITY". Now for a SMART Scan. Several minutes later I'm watching the NASA channel. Next, "to make a long story short".

I will admit that the search for the rest of the satellites in the Clarke belt went on hold for about an hour as I watched the NASA channel. When I resumed the search (following the above procedure) all the rest of the pre-programmed satellites in the Pansat 6000HXC, from AMC 5 in the East to Echostar 1/2 in the West, fell right into place with using USALS (QUALITY in the 90's). I attribute this to the two days I spent making sure the mounting pole was plumb and supported (struts installed to prevent any deflection of the mounting pole due to dish/motor weight).

I need to thank all those wonderful people here that took the time to offer assistance to me. This install would have been frustrating and not nearly as much fun as it has been. I'm still engaged in minor tweaking and there are a few more satellites that I wish to explore using the Pansat 6000HXC. When done, Installation Part II Begins; Viewsat Ultra.

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JSheridan

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Last reply 37 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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MikeD-C05

Sep 26, 2026

I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 26, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH

I have the same wish.

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bnewt

Today at 3:30 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I have the same wish.

Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 4:56 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.

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Almighty1

Today at 6:28 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

And the same reason why DISH removing satellite 118 for international channels is a bad idea as at least in my case, TVB Jade World costs $29.99/month and depends on a internet connection for the signal transport to the DISH Hopper 3 + Hopper Plus to stream the channel which makes it unavailable on DISH Anywhere and also I am providing the transport pipe at my own expense when it was supposed to be a dedicated connection via satellite between DISH and the DISH equipment.

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As sling tv sucks eggs.

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NYDutch

Today at 7:40 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.

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37 minutes ago

Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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comfortably_numb

Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

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Saturday at 11:47 AM

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

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comfortably_numb

Saturday at 11:56 AM

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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harshness

Yesterday at 12:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
medieval chain armor

Aka "mail" or "maille".

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

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vlad_

Last reply Today at 4:10 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Thinking of switching to DirecTV

I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?

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navychop

Sep 28, 2026

I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

vlad_

Sep 29, 2026

navychop said:
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

slow_poke_pete

Sep 29, 2026

vlad_ said:
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

Tom Speer

Sep 29, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

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Jimbo

Oct 2, 2026

JSheridan said:
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?

Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 3, 2026

Jimbo said:
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

JSheridan

Oct 3, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 4, 2026

JSheridan said:
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

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JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

b4pjoe said:
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

why not just do a rebranding of the two :what

JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
why not just do a rebranding of the two

As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

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b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

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Nominal

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

JSheridan

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

JSheridan said:
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

Nominal said:
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin

been there

slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

JSheridan said:
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what

robjlevin

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:10 PM

Tom Speer said:
If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!

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Comptech

Last reply Today at 4:07 PM · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio

Base antenna for SiriousXM

Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.

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cp2k

Jul 5, 2026

The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

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comfortably_numb

Jul 5, 2026

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Arctic_fox

Jul 6, 2026

cpalmer2k said:
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny

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Comptech

Jul 6, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!

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Comptech

Jul 7, 2026

Last year they ate through my times microwave LMR400 for my CB! had to cut it back and put male and female connectors on it. So much for having a pristine run of LMR400.

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Arctic_fox

Jul 16, 2026

i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:07 PM

these are good for travel

osu1991

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Last reply Today at 3:37 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, who memorably played Chekov in the original "Star Trek" series and seven "Star Trek" feature films, died Sunday in Los Angeles.

variety.com

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Bobby

Today at 2:03 PM

Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:32 PM

Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...

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FTA4PA

Today at 3:37 PM

Rest In Peace

Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Today at 1:27 PM

The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

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osu1991

Today at 1:32 PM

For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

Jimbo

Today at 2:16 PM

Yespage said:
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

As for meeting each other, you say they automatically avoid ... not really, if I recall, when Ohio State won in 2 years ago, they had the toughest route to win it all .... they played Tennessee, then it was the #1 team Oregon, in round 2 then Texas in round 3 then Notre Dame in the Finals .... thats hardly avoiding the tough match ups.

Personally, I don't want to see 42- 10 blowouts in the first 2 rounds ....

Not sure where you found lesser teams beating higher ranked teams ... (outside of the Top teams, which any could beat each other (1-8).

Which in my opinion is where the Playoffs should be teams 1-8 .
Team number 64 has ZERO chance to win 4-5 games against top teams.

Btw, whens the last time a (in basketball) 32-64 ranked team WON it all, or even got to the Final 2 ?????

I'll wait.

Yespage

Today at 3:04 PM

You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?

Ronnie-

Today at 3:26 PM

I see alot saying nobody is good because several have a loss or two. I disagree. I think more teams are good now, and even.

Its made for some more competitive games imo.

Ronnie-

Today at 3:30 PM

osu1991 said:
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

The NIL and tranfer portal definitely need some work, or guidelines, but it has evened stuff out somewhat.

Even the expanded playoff. While it does make a single regular season game less relevant in the overall picture, its added a different level of interest imo. Losing a game, or two even, doesnt mean your season is over. The teams still have ALOT to play for.

I am not as against this (as a whole that still needs tweaking) as I thought I would be. More competitive football, I think that is a good thing.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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dishstaller

Today at 12:33 PM

Long Hot Summer - Keith Urban

gms49ers

Today at 12:44 PM

Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies

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sdfntx

Today at 2:09 PM

Cool Jerk - The Mindbenders

dishstaller

Today at 2:53 PM

Cool Change - Little River Band

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:30 PM

Change Of The Guard - Steely Dan

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 2:53 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Oct 10, 2026

Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.

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dfergie

Oct 12, 2026

TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Mr Tony

Oct 19, 2026

Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles.

(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)

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TRG

Oct 19, 2026

Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.

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dfergie

Oct 19, 2026

Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)

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TRG

Today at 2:53 PM

Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.

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