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dnyce

Last reply Apr 28, 2007 · posted in Video Game Reviews & Discussions

PS3 Sales THE TRUTH!

First of all, why do I keep reading posts and articles talking about how bad PS3 sales are compared to the Wii?? The Wii is a cute video game system that I'll buy my daughter for her birthday to play on her 26 inch Spongebob TV in the play room. How can anyone compare it to the 360 or PS3??!!

Imagine seeing the cover of next months Motor Trend magazine
"BMW in trouble, Toyota Camry outsells 5 Series"
I mean be serious!

NEXT!
Many of you are shoveling the hype that PS3's are not selling as much as the 360 did. Yes it is possible to go to a store and buy a PS3. That is a bad thing?? LOL I can't believe the 360 release was so terrible that it makes stocking an item look bad.

In case you were curious...
360 - Release Date,Nov 05 - April 06 - 3.2 million units sold
PS3 - Release Date,Nov 06 - April 07 - 3.1 million units sold

Not bad considering 360 was the ONLY option for next gen gaming in 05 and most of 06. PS3 had much more competition and a higher price doing almost the same numbers.

Don't take my word for it, we're all familiar with Google. Look it up.

Feel free to use this info as a Universal reply for anyone that decides they want to talk about PS3 dismal sales or how Wii is putting Sony out of business. Thank you and Good night.

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JoeSp

Apr 26, 2007

While I will agree that the PS3 sales are not as strong as Sony would like, they are not bad. The PS2 did not really take off until the 2nd Xmas season it was out. And all the FUD stated that the Emotion Engine was way too hard to program for and that Sony had no middleware to help game designers with the PS2 hardware. And we know what history has turned up on those complaints. 110 million sold and still selling strong with the largest and most diverse library of games of any video game system ever sold (not talking about handhelds here).

As for the XBOX360's dismal first few months out of the gate -- it had nothing to do with supply. It had everything to do with faulty product. M$ put a hold onto shipments until they could fix a few of the problems that was shutting down 360's everywhere. And once again we know how history has shown how those fixes have worked. Anybody seen the lastest posts on the 'three rings of death'. At least M$ extended their waranty to a year and offered to pay back folks who had paid to get a system repaired that wasn't even a year old.

Both these companies are losing millions of dollars to get us into their gaming camps and are trying to figure out a way to make money. So far in the gaming business only Nitendo and Sony have made money in the gaming system market. Maybe with the PS3 Sony will join M$ and have to look for other ways to make money to keep their product on the market. At least with Sony they have BluRay movies and right now that seems to be what is selling the PS3 and making Sony some of their investment back. This coming XMAS season is going to be real interesting for the big boys Sony and M$. I think Nintendo might steal this XMAS too.

Sapient

Apr 26, 2007

JoeSp said:
As for the XBOX360's dismal first few months out of the gate -- it had nothing to do with supply. It had everything to do with faulty product. M$ put a hold onto shipments until they could fix a few of the problems that was shutting down 360's everywhere.

That IS a supply problem. MS could not provide enough consoles to satisfy demand. Sony's problem was the opposite. They could prove enough units, but did not have enough demand to have higher sales. Would the 360 have sold far more units in its first months if it had far more available? There is no way to know.

But since the 360 and PS3 had similar sales numbers, are you saying the demand for PS3's is "dismal"?

Derwin0

Apr 27, 2007

Sapient said:
That IS a supply problem. MS could not provide enough consoles to satisfy demand. Sony's problem was the opposite. They could prove enough units, but did not have enough demand to have higher sales. Would the 360 have sold far more units in its first months if it had far more available? There is no way to know.

But since the 360 and PS3 had similar sales numbers, are you saying the demand for PS3's is "dismal"?

Considering that the PS3 has sold more units than the 360 in the same period of their lifespans, leads me to think that if Microsoft had as many units ready as Sony did, than they'd have a bunch sitting around then as they do now.

riffjim4069

Apr 27, 2007

I have two, a co-worker purchased one when they released Splinter Cell, another co-worker picked one up last night after receiving his tax refund...and two others are waiting for a $50-$100 price drop and/or after they get a few more games on the shelves. There is no shortage of potential buyers in my small office.

duckydan

Apr 27, 2007

I also feel it was supply that hurt 360 and if they had the product out they would have sold. Ebay search for a PS3 and many of them are selling for under retail. People were still paying 700-800 for xbox 360s in march and april of last year. Also the xbox 360 failure rate was about the same as the PS2's (I still have my first xbox 360 in running condition since day 1)

Sapient

Apr 27, 2007

Derwin0 said:
Considering that the PS3 has sold more units than the 360 in the same period of their lifespans, leads me to think that if Microsoft had as many units ready as Sony did, than they'd have a bunch sitting around then as they do now.

According to the first post in this thread, the PS3 sold slightly less than the 360 over the same period of time. But I don't know how you can know how many 360s would have sold, since everyone that was available at the time was snatched up. Maybe their supply exactly matched demand. Maybe demand was twice as high. We don't really know.

Derwin0

Apr 28, 2007

Sapient said:
Maybe demand was twice as high. We don't really know.

Exactly my point, we'll never know.
I think it took over a year for the PS2 to knock off the PS1.
The original XBOX sold out for the first couple of months, but never came close to the PS2.
It's still too early to call a winner.

duckydan

Apr 28, 2007

Another point to add that I found out this weekend... many stores are receiving a lot of PS3 returns as it seems people are still buying them to attempt to turn a profit or just changing their minds in the end. The local gamestop told me they have gotten 1-2 per week for the last month, something the 360 also didn't have a problem with (Though why can't people return Wii's... I still can't find one of those)

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Scott Greczkowski

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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meStevo

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Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

www.usgs.gov

View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4

Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ

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Foxbat

Today at 10:25 AM

Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.

edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.

All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.

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Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:

The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.

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Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in What's Cooking?

Homemade Breakfast Sausage

Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...

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navychop

Today at 8:14 AM

Bob Evans Sage.

reubenray

Today at 8:41 AM

navychop said:
Bob Evans Sage.

I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

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dfergie

Today at 8:45 AM

Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:47 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

amazon maybe :what

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:52 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:54 AM

dfergie said:
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

id'e rather make my own vs store bought.

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reubenray

Today at 9:57 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.

dfergie

Today at 10:17 AM

They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)

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TheRatPatrol

Last reply Today at 7:40 AM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

Thursday at 1:19 PM

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

Thursday at 2:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:30 AM

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 12:50 PM

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

KAB

Today at 6:18 AM

I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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Jimbo

Today at 7:40 AM

KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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