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KE4EST
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Here are the policies and links for Hughes and WB on their FAP.


HughesNet:

Fair Access Policy

To ensure fair Internet access for all HughesNet® subscribers, Hughes maintains a Fair Access Policy. This policy establishes an equitable balance in Internet access for all HughesNet subscribers. Hughes assigns a download threshold to each service plan that limits the amount of data that may be continuously downloaded within specified time periods. Subscribers who exceed this limit will experience a temporary reduction of speed.

Home Plans
24-Hour Download Threshold
Basic 250 MB
Power 150 350 MB
Power 200 450 MB

Other service plans – promotional and legacy

Business Plans


24-Hour Download Threshold

Connect 100 250 MB

Connect 150 350 MB

Express 200 450 MB

Express 300 850 MB

Express 500 850 MB

How does the Fair Access Policy work?

The policy is implemented automatically by monitoring your usage over a rolling 24-hour period. Each HughesNet service plan is assigned a Download Allowance. The Download Allowance is the amount of data (in bytes) which can be downloaded by a subscriber without restriction within a rolling 24-hour period. As you download at a high rate, your allowance will be depleted. During periods of low use, your remaining allowance will slowly recover. When your usage over the past 24 hours exceeds that allowance, you will enter the Recovery Zone, and your download speeds will be reduced. During the Recovery Zone, your Download Allowance is slowly replenished, and after approximately 24 hours, your download speed will be restored. If you continue to use your service to download in the Recovery Zone, it may take more than 24 hours for your Allowance to be replenished and your speed to return to normal.
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Link: http://legal.hughesnet.com/fairaccesspolicy.cfm


WildBlue:



At WildBlue, our goal is to give each of our customers the fastest service possible at the lowest possible price. We are always striving to develop programs and policies that help make that possible. Our Fair Access Policy is designed to impact the fewest customers while helping ensure the best speeds for the vast majority of our customers.

WildBlue estimates that a small percent of customers account for a disproportionate share of data usage on the WildBlue network. To ensure that all WildBlue customers have equitable access to the WildBlue network, WildBlue has implemented a Fair Access Policy (or "FAP"). WildBlue sets usage thresholds on the amount of data you can upload and download within stated time periods. If you exceed these thresholds, WildBlue will temporarily limit the speed at which you can send and receive data over the WildBlue access network. You will still be able to use the WildBlue Internet access service but your speed will be slower. In cases of extreme and continued violation of the FAP limitations, your service may be terminated. WildBlue may use other traffic management and prioritization tools to help ensure equitable access to the WildBlue network for all customers. Your WildBlue Internet access is not guaranteed and is subject to this FAP.

Based on an analysis of typical customers, we have set a rolling 30-day limit on data usage per customer, called a Usage Threshold. As shown in the table below, this threshold varies based on the service plan you selected. For each service plan, the Usage Thresholds are significantly above the amount of data that is used by a typical customer. Every day, we measure your upload and download data usage ("Actual Usage") to determine if your total Actual Usage, as aggregated over the previous 30 days ("Usage Total"), exceeds the Usage Threshold for the service plan that you selected. At any time, you can see your Usage Total versus your monthly Usage Threshold under the Customer Care section at wildblue.net.

We will notify you via your WildBlue contact email address if your Usage Total reaches 80% or more of the Usage Threshold. If at any time your Usage Total is above the Usage Threshold, your usage has violated the FAP and we will reduce your WildBlue access speeds, typically to 128 kbps in the downstream (from the Internet to you) and 28 kbps in the upstream (from you to the Internet). Once your speeds have been reduced, you must decrease your usage to bring your Usage Total to 80% or less than the Usage Threshold. Once your Usage Total reaches this level, your access speeds will be restored to the original speed levels by the next day.

Failure to decrease your usage to 80% or less of the Usage Threshold by the following calendar month and each consecutive calendar month thereafter will constitute another FAP violation. If you violate the FAP in four consecutive months or at least once in each of five calendar months within any twelve month period – whether by exceeding the Monthly Usage Threshold or by remaining in a reduced-speed status -- WildBlue may terminate your Customer Agreement. Please see the WildBlue Customer Agreement for termination provisions, including applicable fees.

You are likely to avoid any limitations imposed by the FAP if your use is typical of the majority of Internet users and consists primarily of Web surfing and a reasonable amount of downloading. The table below shows the monthly Usage Thresholds for each plan. These limits specify the amount of data that you can upload and download before your access speed is reduced. Please note that your Usage Total is far more likely to exceed the Usage Thresholds below if you use peer-to-peer file sharing programs, you use a webcam or you download full length movies, large quantities of music files, full software applications or similar high-bandwidth activities.


WildBlue FAP Monthly Usage Thresholds:

...........................................Value Pak......Select Pak...........Pro Pak
Upload Threshold (MB) 1..........2,300...........3,000..................5,000
Download Threshold (MB) 2.....7,500.........12,000................17,000

1 Upload Threshold is the volume of data that can be uploaded during the previous 30 days before the Fair Access Policy may restrict the user's speeds.
2 Download Threshold is the volume of data that can be downloaded during the previous 30 days before the Fair Access Policy may restrict the user's speeds.

These terms and conditions state important requirements regarding your use of WildBlue's High-speed Internet service and your relationship with WildBlue. You should read them carefully as they contain important information regarding your rights and ours. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, you many not use the service and, subject to the terms of your Customer Agreement, you must terminate your service immediately.

WildBlue may revise this Fair Access Policy from time to time without notice by posting a new version of this document on wildblue.com, wildblue.net or any successor URL(s). All revised copies of the Policy are effective immediately upon posting. Accordingly, customers and users of WildBlue's High-speed Internet service should regularly visit these web sites. Questions regarding this FAP and complaints of violations of it by WildBlue customers and users can be directed to WildBlue via "Help" email obtainable at wildblue.net.

Last Updated: 11/13/2011

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Link: http://www.wildblue.com/legal/fair.jsp
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KE4EST
Updated the this a little and fixed HughesNet as they now have a new website and have recently added more to their daily limit.
"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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Foxbat
Wow. I guess it's good that incantation still works. I would have figured that Microsoft would have come up with a better solution to patch management by now. I think I learned that back in the W2000 or XP days…
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HipKat
Wow. I guess it's good that incantation still works. I would have figured that Microsoft would have come up with a better solution to patch management by now. I think I learned that back in the W2000 or XP days…
I'll be running it this weekend. I had to boot into Windows the other day, and it froze after booting with a Python error. A hard reset, and it booted fine, but I've had Wiondows freeze a few times over the last few months during boot.

Those commands are something I've always kept for times like this, after I run Samsung Magician, should it not find the issue.
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harshness
... but I've had Wiondows freeze a few times over the last few months during boot.
I highly recommend running a default Memtest86 test (four passes, all tests) on the machine. Note that it may take all night.
primestar31
I use a Beelink Mini PC, Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake- N95 running Windows 11 Pro as my Channels DVR. I only log into it when I need to, and do that with the Remote Desktop app from my personal Windows 10 laptop.

It runs Channels DVR, plus Docker Desktop and a few bridge programs used with Channels like that. It's supposed to auto-logon into my profile back into the Windows Desktop, and auto start all those things. EVERY TIME it reboots for whatever reason, usually only AFTER one of these push updates at 3am, Channels itself restarts fine, but my Docker Desktop and two bridge programs do NOT restart unintended like they should.

IF I then log into the Windows desktop using the Remote Desktop app, Docker and my bridge programs THEN engage and startup as they should.

What's wrong with my settings, so I can fix this once and for all to properly log into my profile after an automatic update reboot to bring up Windows and allow these programs to autostart as they should?
b4pjoe
I use a Beelink Mini PC, Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake- N95 running Windows 11 Pro as my Channels DVR. I only log into it when I need to, and do that with the Remote Desktop app from my personal Windows 10 laptop.

It runs Channels DVR, plus Docker Desktop and a few bridge programs used with Channels like that. It's supposed to auto-logon into my profile back into the Windows Desktop, and auto start all those things. EVERY TIME it reboots for whatever reason, usually only AFTER one of these push updates at 3am, Channels itself restarts fine, but my Docker Desktop and two bridge programs do NOT restart unintended like they should.

IF I then log into the Windows desktop using the Remote Desktop app, Docker and my bridge programs THEN engage and startup as they should.

What's wrong with my settings, so I can fix this once and for all to properly log into my profile after an automatic update reboot to bring up Windows and allow these programs to autostart as they should?
I don't use docker on my windows 11 pc but I do use Channels DVR and after updates it reverts back to the login screen and Channels DVR does not run until I login. I have been burned by this several times. How are you getting windows 11 to auto log in?
primestar31
How are you getting windows 11 to auto log in?
Apparently, I'm not, that's my problem.

The Channels DVR software can be set as a service, and that starts automatically whether anybody is logged in or not after the pc reboots. That's a choice when you first install it by checking a box. There's likely a way to bring that choice back up after it's been installed for a while, BUT, you'd have to ask them on their forum for the best way to do it as I don't remember.

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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
TRG
Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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TRG
TRG
Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

burr.webp
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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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dfergie
Juicy Lucy jalapeño burger… Tea
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TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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KAB
KAB
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
Jimbo
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...
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Jimbo
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
Teased Meeting ?
dfergie
I didn't recognize him till I saw this... (William Katt)

View: https://youtu.be/n9S3F87A588?si=tU_YQX6h3vDmrGEf

Good episode.
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dfergie
Good one, Katrina Law's daughter played the little girl.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
teachsac
Loved the tribal🤣
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dfergie
Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...
dfergie
Luck or unluck of the draw, plus the others using idols and shot in the dark sealed their fate.
Christian wasted the extra vote giving it away...
ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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JSheridan
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.
EarDemon
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.
I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.
Almighty1
AT&T basically went downhill as even for Internet, they were slow in offering services as AT&T WorldNet did not exist until 1994.
In 1994, the commercialization of the Internet accelerated rapidly, forcing major telecommunications giants like AT&T to compete directly with pioneering network operators like BBN (Bolt Beranek and Newman).

AT&T's Early Moves. In October 1994, AT&T launched its first public World Wide Web presence (www.att.com). However, AT&T initially lagged behind rivals in offering direct, commercial Internet backbone and access services, leading it to look for external partnerships to catch up quickly.

Having built and operated the original ARPANET, BBN formed its commercial Internet service provider (ISP) division, BBN Planet, in 1994. By the end of that year, BBN acquired regional networks like SURAnet, making it the largest provider of corporate and institutional Internet access in the United States.

Long-distance rival MCI moved faster than AT&T into commercial Internet infrastructure. Alongside Sprint, IBM, and UUNet, MCI operated one of the primary commercial Internet backbones as the government-funded NSFNET prepared for decommissioning in 1995.

Because AT&T needed immediate enterprise-grade Internet capabilities to counter MCI and Sprint, AT&T forged a major alliance with BBN Planet in mid-1995.

According to The New York Times, AT&T guaranteed BBN Planet at least $120 million in revenue over three years to supply Internet access and security services to AT&T's corporate clients, while also purchasing a minority stake in the company.

While the BBN partnership gave AT&T an immediate foothold in corporate Internet services, AT&T soon built out its own massive consumer and enterprise infrastructure, launching dial-up service AT&T WorldNet in 1996. So basically AT&T would use BBNPlanet's backbone and BBNPlanet would then use MCI's backbone for anything they didn't handle directly.

Meanwhile, GTE acquired BBN in 1997, eventually merging it into what became Verizon's network assets.

Found this online:

Only thing was I thought AT&T split into 13 Regional Bell Operating Companies and not 7 like it says.
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Bobby
Only thing was I thought AT&T split into 13 Regional Bell Operating Companies and not 7 like it says.
The 13 Regional Bell companies were pre-divestiture.
comfortably_numb
The 13 Regional Bell companies were pre-divestiture.

And of all of them, only Cincinnati Bell remains, correct?
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Bobby
And of all of them, only Cincinnati Bell remains, correct?
I believe that is correct.
JSheridan
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.
K
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11/25 - 11/29 Thanksgiving Free Preview
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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PLAY The Game Tonight-Kansas
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It's All In The Game - Tommy Edwards
Bobby
All In Love Is Fair - Barbra Streisand
harshness
Lost in Love - Air Supply
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You're Lost Little Girl -- The Doors