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kstuart
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I've heard about "Bikini Destinations" and similar shows that aired on HD-Net a few years ago.

Do any of the HD channels ever show that sort of programming these days?
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dfergie
HDNet hasn't shown bikini destinations in a while... Get Out is on every weekday and shows some bikini's, I think BlueSky Beautys was the last Bikini show on...
kstuart
HDNet hasn't shown bikini destinations in a while... Get Out is on every weekday and shows some bikini's, I think BlueSky Beautys was the last Bikini show on...

I'm watching "Get Out" right now (DVR'ed earlier)... I'd call it "Not-Particularly-Wild On" ;) [which won't make much sense if you haven't seen the party/travel/bikini show "Wild On"]. But beautiful location and cute babes in bikinis in HD are plus points. Doesn't have the artistic look of some of the Bikini Destination eps... and what the gals do is not any different than the average tourist... I think once all channels are HD, then "Get Out" would have a hard time getting on the air...
dfergie
2 Bikini Destinations late tonight on HD Net...first one at 12am Pdt, second at 1...
kstuart
Thanks for the heads up !

5 eps in the 9-day Guide, two tonight, and three next weekend.

The two tonight are listed as "Episode 1" and "Epsiode 4", and the others are in chronological order (5,6 and 8), but some are missing, so perhaps they no longer have legal rights for all the episodes.
kstuart
Here is the Bikini Destinations Ep Guide from hd.net :
HDNet Original Programming - Bikini Destinations
Bikini Destinations Episode Guide

This is a listing, by episode number, of Bikini Destinations episodes that
have already been produced. Some episodes are available from the HDNet
online store as high definition HD-VHS tapes. They're marked with a link
to make it easy to shop the HDNet store.
On Location with Hawaiian Tropic - Buy it from the HDNet Store!
Episode Number:101
Synopsis:Join top bikini Models as they set sail on a series of half
hour adventures to the worlds most exotic locales. Show One takes
you on location in Hawaii with the top Hawaiian Tropic Models on
their annual Calendar shoot.
On Location with The BikiniNetwork.com - Buy it from the HDNet
Store!
Episode Number:102
Synopsis:Watch top bikini models as they set sail on a series of
adventures to exotic locals. Join the swimsuit models of
thebikininetwork.com on their annual calendar shoot in the Bahamas.
On Location at Lake Powell with TheBikiniNetwork.com - Buy it from
the HDNet Store!
Episode Number:103
Synopsis:Join top bikini models as they set sail on a series of
adventures to exotic locales. Tonight, join the swimsuit models of
thebikininetwork.com at Lake Powell.
On Location in Las Vegas - Buy it from the HDNet Store!
Episode Number:104
Synopsis:Join top bikini models on location in Las Vegas, the city
where beauty never sleeps.
Venus Swimwear Model Search
Episode Number:105
Synopsis:The search for the hottest bikini models is on for Venus
photographers and talent scouts. Learn what girls go through with
makeup, hair, hopes and dreams in a dynamic unique to bikini
modeling.
Spring Break Cancun
Episode Number:106
Synopsis:Join top bikini models as they set sail on a series of
adventures to exotic locales. Tonight, Hawaiian Tropic bikini models
gone wild at Spring Break Cancun, known as the largest party in the
world. Hide the kids!
California
Episode Number:107
Synopsis:From the desert to the edge of the sea, it's California
dreaming for Bikini Destinations.
France
Episode Number:108
Synopsis:Oui Oui!!!! From the Cannes film festival to San Tropez,
join the Bikini Destinations models shopping and strutting on
location in the south of France.
Lima, Peru
Episode Number:109
Synopsis:Join Bikini Destinations in Lima, Peru as they drop in on a
local beauty pageant and explore the sights and sounds of this
magical city.
Oahu
Episode Number:110
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations sets sail for the Hawaiian Island of
Oahu, capturing the tantalizing tropical beauty this island has to
offer. Join us as we adventure with our gorgeous models aboard
submarines, catamarans, kayaks, and through mid air as Bikini
Destinations showcases the luscious offerings of Oahu.
Maui
Episode Number:111
Synopsis:Immerse yourself in the tropical wonder of the Hawaiian
Island of Maui. Join the Bikini Destinations crew as they take you
behind the scenes of their latest modeling shoot.
Palm Springs
Episode Number:112
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations descends upon the desert oasis of Palm
Springs. Our models find adventure from dusk till dawn at the
celebrities' pick of premier retreats.
South Beach
Episode Number:113
Synopsis:Take a trip with our bikini models into the Everglades as
they get up close and personal with alligators. Then view Miami from
a cigarette boat and party the night away at Nikki's beach.
Acapulco
Episode Number:114
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations touches down in the famous Mexican City
of Acapulco. Join top Hawaiian Tropic Models as they experience the
sensational nightlife, exotic beaches and the rush of La Quebrada
cliff diving.
The Best Of
Episode Number:115
Synopsis:Globe trot the world with Bikini Destinations as we tour
the year in review. Your travel itinerary includes stops in the
Bahamas, France, Lake Powell, Las Vegas, and the Hawaiian Islands.
Mexican Riviera
Episode Number:201
Synopsis:Join the models of Bikini Destinations and Hawaiian Tropic
as they take you on a truly breathtaking odyssey across the Mexican
Riviera.
Bora Bora
Episode Number:202
Synopsis:Journey to the middle of the Pacific's Bora Bora with
bikini models as they dive with sharks, play with stingrays, sample
some Tahitian dance rituals and tour this island paradise.
Tahiti/Moorea
Episode Number:203
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations models are in Tahiti and Moorea diving
deep-water airplane wrecks, playing in towering waterfalls and
hanging with the world's best surfers at the 2004 Billabong Pro
Teahupoo event. Bikini Destinations goes to paradise for one of the
best episodes yet.
Cabo San Lucas
Episode Number:204
Synopsis:Discover Cabo's beautiful beaches and seaside Mexican charm
are on this yacht-style safari. The girls parasail and jetski, then
take in lessons on premium tequilas and fine cigars.
Catalina
Episode Number:205
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations goes to Avalon, Catalina's only town,
on an adventure including oceanic rafting trips and secluded beaches
26 miles from anywhere.
Costa Rica
Episode Number:206
Synopsis:Going down to Central America in style on a surfing
adventure with Endless Summer II's Wingnut, and Sam August. Bikini
Destinations girls take a trip through Costa Rica's rain forest
canopy, ride horses along the white sand beaches of Tamarindo, and
surf with legends of the sport. Mary Osborne, surfing model and
spokeswoman, hangs out and teaches the girls of Bikini Destinations
how to surf.
Lake Tahoe
Episode Number:207
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations, featuring controversial Miss USA, Tara
Conner, embarks on an alpine adventure in the pristine paradise that
is Lake Tahoe. BD catches the girls in action as they hike well-worn
wilderness trails, bike off-the-beaten paths, and take sightseeing
to the extreme by skydiving the High Sierras.
Alaska
Episode Number:208
Synopsis:Glaciers and bikinis? You won't believe your eyes as Bikini
Destinations guides you through the wilderness of Alaska. Join our
models as they explore the natural wonders and icy utopia found in
our largest state.
Molokai
Episode Number:209
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations explores the private Hawaiian Island
paradise of Molokai. Join our beautiful models on their exotic photo
shoots as they soak in Molokai's eternally green valleys, tumbling
waterfalls and exquisite black beaches.
Moscow
Episode Number:210
Synopsis:Part history lesson, part current events expedition,
post-Communist Moscow serves as one of the most unusual backdrops
for Bikini Destinations to date as its models explore the art,
architecture, culture and cuisine of one of the world's oldest and
largest capital cities. They sample regional recipes, stroll through
a mosaic of open-air markets and dance until dawn in its equally
colorful nightclubs.
Ukraine
Episode Number:211
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations journeys deep into the heart of history
as the crew uncovers the "real" Ukraine - from Crimea's celebrated
vineyards to the imperial palace where the Cold War began. Then the
girls experience contemporary culture as they taste traditional
dishes in the region's most popular restaurants and work it all off
dancing the night away in Yalta's trendiest clubs.
Rio de Janeiro
Episode Number:212
Synopsis:Bikini Destinations descends upon Rio de Janeiro with
visions of white-sand beaches, string bikinis, Carnival dancers and
scores of beautiful people. This sultry Brazilian city doesn't
disappoint. The crew will enjoy unparalleled views from atop Sugar
Loaf Mountain, bank over Rio's famous beaches on a helicopter tour,
take sightseeing to the extreme by hang-gliding across rainforests
and cityscapes, and dance the night away in Rio's pulsating club
scene.
A Year in Review
Episode Number:213
Synopsis:In 2004, Bikini Destinations explored far-flung locales
from the glacier mountains of Alaska to the sun-swept beaches of
Bora Bora and everywhere in between. Join some of the most beautiful
women in the world, as they revisit 12 of the most exotic places on
the planet for The Best of Bikini Destinations: A Year in Review.
Buzios
Episode Number:214
Synopsis:Nicknamed the South American Saint-Tropez, Buzios is
renowned as a playground for the young, rich and beautiful. Our
Bikini Destinations models blend right into the backdrop of Rio's
premier coastal resort as they party on a boat cruise, discover its
famous Blue Caves, explore Brazil's most beautiful white sand
beaches on horseback and bust a move, Brazilian-style.
Puerto Vallarta
Episode Number:215
Synopsis:A dichotomy of cultural pageantry, Puerto Vallarto is
situated in the heart of a geographically diverse playground of
mountains, ocean and tropical rainforest. Add a few of the most
beautiful women in the world into the mix and you've got the makings
of a truly unique South of the Border experience as the models of
Bikini Destinations and Hawaiian Tropic team up on an unforgettable
eco-tour in Mexico.
Wild Side: Ft. Lauderdale/Acapulco
Episode Number:101
Synopsis:The premier episode of Bikini Destination's Wild Side puts
you right in the thick of spring break. Take in Ft. Lauderdale,
South Beach Miami, Acapulco and more on this non-stop after-hours
adventure with hosts Art Mann and Jennifer Brown.
Wild Side: Las Vegas
Episode Number:102
Synopsis:Join Bikini Destinations Wild Side hosts Art Mann and
Jennifer Brown as they travel to Las Vegas and take on "Sin City's"
nightlife. Visit hot spots including Ice, Ra, China Grill, and Ghost
Bar, and experience the Hawaiian Tropic Celebrity Golf Tournament
with guest host Kato Kaelin.
Wild Side: Tampa/Clearwater/Ybor City/Cabo San Lucas
Episode Number:103
Synopsis:The Wild Side gang is back at it! Art Mann, Jennifer Brown,
and guest host Paula LaRoca take apart the Tampa Bay scene and the
best of Cabo San Lucas. The Pillowfight Jammy Jam is not for the
faint of heart, so don't miss it!
Wild Side: Daytona, Key West/Mazatlan
Episode Number:104
Synopsis:Spring Break, Bike Week, Hawaiian Tropic Beauty Pageants,
and more are the ingredients for this week's Wild Side. Art and
Jennifer mix them all together to make a very tasty visual treat.
Key West might as well be on another planet as normal social
guidelines simply do not apply. Daytona and Mazatlan round out this
outrageous recipe.
Wild Side: Emerald Coast / Newport Beach
Episode Number:105
Synopsis:The Wild Side craziness continues from the powder white
beaches of the Emerald Coast. Art Mann gets you up close and
personal with the hottest clubs and bodies on the Florida panhandle.
While on the opposite coast, Jenn Brown laces up with Garrett
Burnett of the Mighty Ducks and continues the antics as we hit the
coolest nightspots Newport Beach has to offer.
Wild Side: Boston, Tahiti, Laconia
Episode Number:106
Synopsis:Art Mann proves Boston isn't just for bankers, bringing you
the after-hours frolics that the Wild Side is known for. Jenn Brown
is on the other side of the world, hanging in exotic, erotic, Tahiti
with the Bikini Destination swimsuit models. Throw in Bike Week from
Laconia, New Hampshire, for some rebel biker fun and games, and this
show just motors right along.
Wild Side: Calgary & Cancun
Episode Number:107
Synopsis:Calgary is the location for this episode's mayhem as Art
Mann takes you on a behind the scenes tour of the hottest clubs this
stampede town has to offer. The Calgary School Bus Pub Crawl is not
for the faint of heart! Then we'll head across our southern border
for some Cancun craziness while enjoying a margarita or two. Jenn
Brown trips the night fantastic in this wild Mexican resort with a
bevy of Hawaiian Tropic beauties in town for the Bikini Pageant.
Wild Side: Austin & Costa Rica
Episode Number:108
Synopsis:The hits just keep on coming. Art Mann is hanging with all
the indie music types that Austin, Texas is known for, and jamming
the night away along the non-stop party zone known as 6th Street.
While Jenn enjoys a little "pura vida", or pure life, way down in
Costa Rica with a few of the Bikini Destinations swimsuit models.
Get your kicks watching Art get his with the tough girls of Roller
Derby.
Wild Side: Los Angeles, Lake Tahoe
Episode Number:109
Synopsis:The Wild Side's hometown of Los Angeles is ground zero for
this week's pleasure cruise. Art Mann gets the backstage pass to the
X-Games along with a couple of Playmates. They continue their antics
by hitting all the crazy parties along the way. Then Jenn ramps it
up by leaping out of a plane at 10,000 feet over pristine Lake
Tahoe. Art at Moto-X "school" shows he's a straight "F".
Wild Side: Las Vegas, Alaska
Episode Number:110
Synopsis:Viva Las Vegas! Yep, that's right Art Mann is back in Las
Vegas, and what brings him there? None other than Playboy's Xtreme
Team party at the Palms and a little one on one time with Uncle
Kracker. Jenn Brown, on the other hand, is doing her best to cause a
meltdown in the Great White North as she explores Alaska's Wild
Side.
Wild Side: San Diego/Moscow
Episode Number:111
Synopsis:San Diego is L.A.'s ugly little sister no more, she's all
grown up and ready for the Wild Side. Art Mann gets bleary eyed
checking out the thriving nightlife into the wee morning hours. And
in Russia, where the heavy hand of communist oppression is long
gone, Jenn and the Bikini Destination models chill out in Moscow "on
the rocks", you might say. The Muscovites are definitely reveling in
their new found freedoms.
Wild Side: Brazil
Episode Number:112
Synopsis:No hemisphere is safe as the Wild Side heads south of the
equator to sensuous and chaotic Brazil. The locals revel in the
constant sunshine and turn the summer heat on all year long. Rio De
Janeiro, home to "Carnaval", beautiful beaches and the most rocking
nightlife on the planet, gives you the full frontal when Jenn
uncovers its hidden secrets. The frolics continue as the resort town
of Buzios exposes her own underground pleasures.
The Best of the Wild Side
Episode Number:113
Synopsis:It's time to pop the cork on a great season of Wild Side.
We're bringing you a recap of the best of the best this season had
to offer. Hitting Cabo, Canada, Russia, and of course the U.S. of A.
It's been a whirlwind ride around the big blue marble, so get ready
for the wildest of the Wild Side.
dishstaller
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I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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Foxbat
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Bruce
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Devil in Her Heart - The Beatles
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Take Me To Heart - Quarterflash
ClarkGable
Take Me To The River - Talking Heads
long_time_Dish
Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan
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TAKE On ME-A-Ha
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Foxbat
Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
Foxbat
I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.👍🏻
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!
long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
jcrandall
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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Well, this is awkward. Today the Miami Heat announced that their games in West Palm Beach this season will be aired on WTCN Channel 43, the Sinclair independent... and the station which DTV Stream downgraded from HD to SD a few weeks ago. Makes you wonder if the Heat is aware of this.

I did find the WTCN Chief Engineer (Bill Macbeth) and he said he knew nothing of what DTV Stream had done. Will look into it and get back to me.
harshness
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
M
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
K
WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls
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Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
brittanygarden
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
Jim5506
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
I have the dual tuner OTA adapter currently connected, but I have 2 of the single tuner OTA adapters that I can quickly connect - neither is seen by my H3.
JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
Mister B
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
zippyfrog
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
navychop
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

CONTRACTS!
Henry Sanchez
What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?
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CONTRACTS!
At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
Personally, I would HATE to see a SD Channel at this point.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Jimbo
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Jimbo
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
NYDutch
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
harshness
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
Jimbo
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
harshness
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Jimbo
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
harshness
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
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Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
Jimbo
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
Juan
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
22g per serving.
Juan
22g per serving.
How much is a serving?
Bobby
How much is a serving?
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
Jimbo
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
Jimbo
22g per serving.
Thats about the same as the Bryers I get, I just have smaller portions.
Jimbo
How much is a serving?
2/3rds of a cup or 9 servings per container.
Jimbo
$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
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I remember this in the news too...

Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates
  • 1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
  • 1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).
The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:
  • The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
  • The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).
Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.
  • The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
  • The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.
Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.
  • By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
  • When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.
Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:
  • The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
  • The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).
What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.
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