3rd receiver (or is it the 4th?)

[DownSouth]

After looking through everything I could find here, and not being able to find it exactly, I thought I'd ask:

First of all, my current equipment: Dish 1000, ViP 211, and 625 receivers.

My scenario:

I'm wanting to add a 2nd receiver (either a 301 or 322) to the same location that I have the vip 211 at so I can hook up my SAL Tivo to it.

My question:

What exactly do I need to do this?


Does the 625 count as 2 receivers as it's connected to 2 different TV's in the back of my house? If so, I guess I have 3 receivers connected. If not, I have 2 receivers connected.

I've seen so many switches mentioned along with so many variations that I don't think I'd know the right answer right now if it bit me on the butt

 

[RandallA]

To add a 3rd receiver (yes, you have two receivers), you will need a switch. A DP34 will do but you'll need two cable runs to the 625 and single runs to the 2nd and 3rd receiver. A DPP44 is the ideal solution because you can have a single run to the 625 and you'll have an extra port but they are expensive ($150-$200).

 

[DishSubLA]

Yes, the rule is that Dish counts each BOX towards the maximum of 6 boxes on one accuont regardless of the number of tuners a box has. Dish counts tuners towards the maximum limit of 4 leased tuners per account. Any change to your system that would allow a 5th tuner, Dish feels you can pay for yourself.

 

[DownSouth]

Thanks much, ya'll. Yeah, they're sure proud of that DPP 44, aren't they? The cable runs aren't that much of a big deal for me as I've still got all my wiring from D* and that's the way it was set up with them.

Didn't I see something about powered and non-powered versions of those switches or am I still swimming in switch hell?

 

[DownSouth]

One more after thought......is adding this other receiver going to mess me up with my RV set-up? I have a Dish 322 receiver for it that I bought and it's a 2 tuner model.

 

[DownSouth]

One more thing.....are the DP44 and DPP44 the same thing? I know the 'DP' and 'DPP' mean Dish Pro and Dish Pro Plus but I don't recall seeing that difference when looking at the switches before.

 

[RandallA]

There is no DP44, only the DPP44. The DP34 is powered by the receivers and the DPP44 has a power inserter that must go on port 1. You can lease a max. of 4 receivers and you can have a max. of 6 receivers in the account. I have 5 receivers in my account and as long as they are connected to the phone line, you shouldn't have problems with the Dish Audit Team.

 

[DownSouth]

Okay, gotcha.

In the "for what it's worth" department, I've been looking at DPP 44 switches at eBay and, if you're not in a big hurry for the switch, you can get one for as low as $60 or $70. I could get one right away for around $90-$100 and thats NIB. The other switches are available too, priced accordingly. Sure beats the $150 to $200 elsewhere. When one's receiving fixed income, such as I, every penny counts.

 

[RandallA]

I hear you, I got my DPP44 NIB for $65 shipped on eBay.

 

[DishSubLA]

There is no DP44, only the DPP44. The DP34 is powered by the receivers and the DPP44 has a power inserter that must go on port 1. You can lease a max. of 4 receivers and you can have a max. of 6 receivers in the account. I have 5 receivers in my account and as long as they are connected to the phone line, you shouldn't have problems with the Dish Audit Team.

Dish now leases a maximum of only 4 tuners per account. So, in some cases, this means only 2 boxes. For example, the dual tuner 625 and 322, two boxes on one account, is the maximum Dish will lease because these to boxes provide a total of 4 TUNERS. It used to be maximum 4 boxes, but has been maximum 4 tuners since the DishPro Plus line of dual tuner boxes were introduced.

 

[DownSouth]

DishSub,

Thanks for that info. I guess that decided for me to use the 301 along side by 211 as that'll give me the 4 tuners. I hope they'll cut me some slack for the 322 in my RV. Not that E* or D* listens to reason, a case could be made that when we're in the RV, all tuners at the house are dormant

 

[DishSubLA]

DishSub,

Thanks for that info. I guess that decided for me to use the 301 along side by 211 as that'll give me the 4 tuners. I hope they'll cut me some slack for the 322 in my RV. Not that E* or D* listens to reason, a case could be made that when we're in the RV, all tuners at the house are dormant

Of course, you are free to purchase any equipment and boxes beyond what Dish will carry for you (4 leased tuners). You just have to pay for it. The official limit is a maximum of 6 boxes, of any kind, per account. So, in theory, you can have 12 tuners (TV's) on one account.

 

[DownSouth]

I think I've got it straight now. I own the 301 and 322 and am leasing the 211 and 625 so I'd be okay whichever way I use the 2 that I own. They sure like making things complicated with all this

 

[DishSubLA]

I think I've got it straight now. I own the 301 and 322 and am leasing the 211 and 625 so I'd be okay whichever way I use the 2 that I own. They sure like making things complicated with all this

No, not complicated, just inexpensive as possible for them (Dish). They'll do anything for that.